[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 20 March 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Okay provisional upgrade to cruiser, pos computer instead of shield, pos comp instead of hull

going to make sure I hit. If the above seems ridiculous by D'rek, IH then please tell me and i'll change upgrade. I think I'll be battling CF's interceptors this round yes? If that is the case and he gets to go first I may change it so that I have more shield to make sure he doesn't hit...

There are a couple of things wrong with this. First you don't have enough power to do these upgrades. The positron computers cost one power so adding two uses up two power and you are already maxed out on the cruiser blueprint. Second, you don't even have the positron compter tech researched and there isn't even an option to research.

I meant the electron computer. It is not confirmed though I want a second opinion

[Morgoth]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily, he doesn't have a lot of actions, and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.

EDIT -

May have put words in IH/D'rek's mouth there. I realize after rereading they haven't really committed to a plan.

It's the risk of picking enemies in a war game

[twelve]

I've looked over numerous routes we could go for victory and I'm now not very confident that CF and I can overtake Khell. It's gonna be close. If we had one more round to mop up D'rek and IH this would be in the bag but as it stands it's gonna be a squeaker.

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Less talky more move-ey

jk...take your time, but we need to get done by the weekend. Wasn't our deadline the 25th?

It's not a deadline, but my modding quality may go down after it

Ganoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.

For the Orion Hegemony they think they would be in a better position now if certain engagements between the Human/Machine alliance had not occurred earlier in the game. The Enlightened of Lyra have not attacked ourselves or made any aggressive move towards us, why would we not honour this relationship?

Big words from someone who is both a known Traitor and a known Betrayer.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 20 March 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Less talky more move-ey

jk...take your time, but we need to get done by the weekend. Wasn't our deadline the 25th?

It's not a deadline, but my modding quality may go down after it

Ganoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.

For the Orion Hegemony they think they would be in a better position now if certain engagements between the Human/Machine alliance had not occurred earlier in the game. The Enlightened of Lyra have not attacked ourselves or made any aggressive move towards us, why would we not honour this relationship?

Big words from someone who is both a known Traitor and a known Betrayer.

Who? What? Where? When?

I kept to my side of the bargain with you D'rek until you attacked me. Then I only reacted. Or are you talking about EM's card? I am confused, what say you to what I said earlier?

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 20 March 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

It seems wrong somehow when the universe cooperates to attack someone that is not Khell.

You stay out of this Morghy! As long as they think of me as the Lyra, and not Khell, everything will be alright...

[Khellendros]

D, on 20 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

@Khell - grab the Artifacts = points development before twelve uses it to get 7 more points...

Indeed, there are several ways to go. But unfortunately not every way, which would be ideal. I'll have to get out the old pad and paper again.

[Khellendros]

Ganoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Khell you can build two Starbases cutting off Mu Arae. What can D'rek and IH bring to the fore?

I'm debating whether to pour materials into starbases and interceptors, or a couple of cruisers/a dread instead. I think it will depend on what others intend with their fleets.

[cerveza_fiesta]

I didn't mean to be snippy...not my intent for sure.

I'm just surprised EM or now tats is not making a move on any of those juicy undefended hexes in Khell's territories.

[Tattersail_]

I like your sales pitch cf

[Khellendros]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I didn't mean to be snippy...not my intent for sure.

I'm just surprised EM or now tats is not making a move on any of those juicy undefended hexes in Khell's territories.

But what would be the point?


Basically, if everyone attacked me and/or stayed out of this round's confrontations, the Greasy Alliance wins no question. But if they attempt to stall that Weasel Alliance, then it's a toss up who wins. I would say the advantage still would lie with you guys, but it's going to be much closer and therefore more exciting.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 20 March 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I didn't mean to be snippy...not my intent for sure.

I'm just surprised EM or now tats is not making a move on any of those juicy undefended hexes in Khell's territories.

But what would be the point?


Basically, if everyone attacked me and/or stayed out of this round's confrontations, the Greasy Alliance wins no question. But if they attempt to stall that Weasel Alliance, then it's a toss up who wins. I would say the advantage still would lie with you guys, but it's going to be much closer and therefore more exciting.

I have to give you Kudos for your many creative adjectives for our alliance. Mostly all derogatory but still entertaining nonetheless. And Tats he is right. The only way Khell can win is if everyone gangs up on CF and/or me. Anything else and CF and I win. And there is still no guarantee that if everyone gangs up on us that we still won't win though I'm not terribly confident that will be the case.

[cerveza_fiesta]

So when do we start making actions?

[Tattersail_]

If I have 5 initiative and you have 5 initiative and I am attacking you, who goes first CF?

[Khellendros]

Ganoes Paran, on 21 March 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

If I have 5 initiative and you have 5 initiative and I am attacking you, who goes first CF?

The defender, no?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 March 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 21 March 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

If I have 5 initiative and you have 5 initiative and I am attacking you, who goes first CF?

The defender, no?

My upgrade is dependent on who to proceed, I'm going to attack CF with two cruisers, if he gets to go first I may upgrade shields and hull to combat his missiles. If I go first then I will increase the computers so that I actually hit and therefore destroy him. What do you think?

[Tattersail_]

Surely attacking should go first so that the defender can defend, i'm not up on my battling skills.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Well, you don't preclude me adding/removing stuff to up my own initiative by the way.

Defender wins initiative ties for both missile and regular combat rounds.

EDIT,

But if you have missiles and I don't, then you go first regardless.

And if we both have missiles and I have initiative, I go first with my missiles, then you with yours, then we move on to regular cannon combat rounds, where initiative is applied again.

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 21 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 21 March 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Well, you don't preclude me adding/removing stuff to up my own initiative by the way.

Defender wins initiative ties for both missile and regular combat rounds.

EDIT,

But if you have missiles and I don't, then you go first regardless.

And if we both have missiles and I have initiative, I go first with my missiles, then you with yours, then we move on to regular cannon combat rounds, where initiative is applied again.

Seriously Tats!! This is the last round and you've been in a couple of scraps yourself this game. You should know this by now. This is all easily reviewed in the rules that are referenced by D'rek on the first page of the thread if you still need to look them over.

[Tattersail_]

Okay action improved hull on cruiser instead of hull. Computer on dread instead of ion Cannon