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Eclipse - Game #2 Rise of the Ancients

#1021 User is offline   D'rek 

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

I can do a really fast boards update if you guys want to see what your upkeep is looking like.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

Shit I'm an idiot, should have passed last round instead of upgrading got over excited. Ah well I pass too.

This is the problem with speed rounds and as a result unupdated supply boards, I lose track of supply!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

View Posttwelve, on 04 February 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 February 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 04 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 February 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

My ships aren't good enough to take the GC yet I don't think, as they stand my dreadnought has something more than 50% odds of being destroyed before it fires a shot, and I need to hit it 4 times. I don't think the odds are worth risking any ships.


I ran yours and the ancient dreadnaught blueprints through the simulator. With 2 dreadnaughts vs the ancient, you've got a 67% chance of winning (with your current blueprints). If you change the Hull part into an Improved Hull, it goes up to 94% with 2 dreadnaughts.



What does that simulater say about 3 interceptors with plasma missles and gluon computers against the ancients?


I'd say that's fairly good odds, you fire first, you hit 4/6 times, you fire 6, and you need to hit twice to win. roughly 90% odds if my maths brain is on today.



Yeah i didn't do the math as I have always stuggled figureing out probablilities but I knew the odds were pretty good. I would just like to know exactly how good.


About 98%.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

Yeah please.

Back in an hour :/
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

Ok, IH passes.

I felt mean, so I tried to hint/warn you Tattersail... alas...

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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 February 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Shit I'm an idiot, should have passed last round instead of upgrading got over excited. Ah well I pass too.

This is the problem with speed rounds and as a result unupdated supply boards, I lose track of supply!


I think you've got it perfect.

+12 / -17 right now

remove disc from the warp sector, making it +12 / -13

use 1 colony ship for +1 money and the other 2 to colonize the hex you explored this round

and it all works out, no?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:00 PM

It would... but I used a colony ship to get the extra research for positron computers. I forgot I'd done that and was aiming for -17, ah well it's not a big deal, 2 less of either research or production, I can manage.

EDIT: also treachery! I do love the backstabs in this game.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:01 PM

View PostTattersail, on 04 February 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Did you like your PM Khell? I wrote it descriptively.



Oh I did. In fact, I liked it so much that I wish for you to refer to me as Thunderous Khell for ever more. Quixotic Khell will also do.


And what the hell is going on? Why is everybody doing loads of moves? I smell a conspiracy :p
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

Boards and maps updated up to my move action (but missing IH's colony ship flip, oops)

Just Twelve left, though tattersail could do a reaction if he wanted.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

Whoa,

So I should probably give Tats a chance for a reaction no?

Well He can do a retroactvie reaction if he wants. I choice to

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

Boards and maps updated up to my move action (but missing IH's colony ship flip, oops)

Just Twelve left, though tattersail could do a reaction if he wanted.



Well no. You are up unless you also pass this turn.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:07 PM

I pass

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:07 PM

Just take the galactic centre twelve and put us out of this suspense!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

Fixing IH's player board now - he had 4 science before research and I think what I did was I moved it down by -3 (the discount amount) instead of by 5 (the actual cost)

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

IH, CF, reaction in your ships just to spite him! :p

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

I've been evaluating scenarios (having had little experience with the game) using this tool.

https://docs.google....EzSHgyblE#gid=0

I figure it's fair everyone gets the benefit of it, esp the newer players like me that don't really know how combat works.

It's not a complete "likelihood of success" for a specific scenario, but it tells you the likeliheood of scoring 1,2,3,4, etc... hits given your dice number, computers and enemy shields.

Do the same for your enemy and it gives the likelihood of them scoring hits on you.

And then you can weigh your decision to attack based on the external factors like initiative, damage amounts, who does/doesn't have missiles, ship types and hull. All that good stuff.
https://docs.google....EzSHgyblE#gid=0
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

IH, CF, reaction in your ships just to spite him! :p


If I thought they could beat him I would, but sadly it would just mean the end of my ships too.

Have to say that twelves just pulled off the best start I've ever seen in this game. We're all doomed!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 04 February 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

I've been evaluating scenarios (having had little experience with the game) using this tool.

https://docs.google....EzSHgyblE#gid=0

I figure it's fair everyone gets the benefit of it, esp the newer players like me that don't really know how combat works.

It's not a complete "likelihood of success" for a specific scenario, but it tells you the likeliheood of scoring 1,2,3,4, etc... hits given your dice number, computers and enemy shields.

Do the same for your enemy and it gives the likelihood of them scoring hits on you.

And then you can weigh your decision to attack based on the external factors like initiative, damage amounts, who does/doesn't have missiles, ship types and hull. All that good stuff.
https://docs.google....EzSHgyblE#gid=0


I've been using the one STD linked to in the last game: http://codesavior.co...e/simulator.php

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 February 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

IH, CF, reaction in your ships just to spite him! :p


If I thought they could beat him I would, but sadly it would just mean the end of my ships too.

Have to say that twelves just pulled off the best start I've ever seen in this game. We're all doomed!


We just need to have him direct his attentions towards EM and Khell instead of us! Which really should not be too hard, given how many ships EM has out already and how well Khell is doing at accumulating shrines and tech.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 04 February 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostD, on 04 February 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

IH, CF, reaction in your ships just to spite him! :p


If I thought they could beat him I would, but sadly it would just mean the end of my ships too.

Have to say that twelves just pulled off the best start I've ever seen in this game. We're all doomed!


We just need to have him direct his attentions towards EM and Khell instead of us! Which really should not be too hard, given how many ships EM has out already and how well Khell is doing at accumulating shrines and tech.




Oh of course twelve should go for the totally inexperienced team of EM and Khell. In the meantime, with twelve distracted gobbling us up, the old knobbly hands of D'rek and IH can take over the universe.

Don't let them manipulate you, twelve! Let me manipulate you instead!
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