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Hello and Merry Christmas everyone!
#1
Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:17 AM
Hi all,
I'm Unexist, an Italian fan of the wonderful world of Malazan. Unfortunately here in Italy we haven't a Malazan community (what a shame, I know!) so I Googled and find this helpful forum.
Actually I'm reading the second book of the series, Deadhouse Gates, and find it better than the first.
Erikson is a genius, no doubt, and I'm eager for discover the secret of this world. The countless secrets of the world, better to say
Two quick question:
- Has the Malazan world a name?
- The reading order. I find this thread with this reading order:
GotM
DG
MoI
HoC
MT
NoK
tBH
RG
RotCG
TtH
DoD
SW
tCG
It's right? And when I can reading Orb, Sceptre, Throne? After tCG?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year at all, and sorry for my poor english
Unexist
I'm Unexist, an Italian fan of the wonderful world of Malazan. Unfortunately here in Italy we haven't a Malazan community (what a shame, I know!) so I Googled and find this helpful forum.
Actually I'm reading the second book of the series, Deadhouse Gates, and find it better than the first.
Erikson is a genius, no doubt, and I'm eager for discover the secret of this world. The countless secrets of the world, better to say
Two quick question:
- Has the Malazan world a name?
- The reading order. I find this thread with this reading order:
GotM
DG
MoI
HoC
MT
NoK
tBH
RG
RotCG
TtH
DoD
SW
tCG
It's right? And when I can reading Orb, Sceptre, Throne? After tCG?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year at all, and sorry for my poor english
Unexist
#2
Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:48 AM
Ciao! Buon Natale—spero che ti diverti!
The Malazan world is informally referred to as Wu, though you'll never see that written in the books—it's a kind of joke name that came from SE and stuck. I'm sure someone can point you in the direction of the real story behind it. There's a thread about it somewhere.
I can't see anything wrong with your chosen reading order. I assume you're reading them in English? I was under the impression that only a few of the books had been translated into Italian...
Allora, benvenuti a Malazan Empire ed al grande viaggio ch'è il resto dei libri MBotF!
The Malazan world is informally referred to as Wu, though you'll never see that written in the books—it's a kind of joke name that came from SE and stuck. I'm sure someone can point you in the direction of the real story behind it. There's a thread about it somewhere.
I can't see anything wrong with your chosen reading order. I assume you're reading them in English? I was under the impression that only a few of the books had been translated into Italian...
Allora, benvenuti a Malazan Empire ed al grande viaggio ch'è il resto dei libri MBotF!
The love I bear thee can afford no better term than this: thou art a villain.
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
#3
Posted 25 December 2012 - 01:37 PM
Jade, your italian is better than my english
Isn't Wu a mythological continent-island like Atlantis? Don't sure where I heard that name before...
Yes, this time I begin reading the series in english, because in italian the book are too expensive and stopped at the seventh (Reaper's Gale).
Isn't Wu a mythological continent-island like Atlantis? Don't sure where I heard that name before...
Yes, this time I begin reading the series in english, because in italian the book are too expensive and stopped at the seventh (Reaper's Gale).
#4
Posted 25 December 2012 - 02:05 PM
Thanks! Your English is good, though, there's nothing that stands out as being wrong or bad in any of your posts.
I think there is a reference to Wu (a person?) somewhere in one of the books but I think it's just a coincidence. The reason we all call the world Wu is because of some inside joke between SE and ICE, I think. Something like that.
I think there is a reference to Wu (a person?) somewhere in one of the books but I think it's just a coincidence. The reason we all call the world Wu is because of some inside joke between SE and ICE, I think. Something like that.
The love I bear thee can afford no better term than this: thou art a villain.
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
"Perhaps we think up our own destinies and so, in a sense, deserve whatever happens to us, for not having had the wit to imagine something better." ― Iain Banks
#5
Posted 25 December 2012 - 09:37 PM
That looks like a pretty good reading order. While some say you can read Orb, Sceptre, Throne right after Toll the Hounds, I'm a strong proponent of not reading it until after Dust of Dreams.
Also, if you can't wait to pick up The Crippled God after you finish Dust of Dreams, Stonewielder can always wait until afterward.
Finally, concerning Forge of Darkness: read it after Orb, Sceptre, Throne, but before Blood and Bone.
Also, if you can't wait to pick up The Crippled God after you finish Dust of Dreams, Stonewielder can always wait until afterward.
Finally, concerning Forge of Darkness: read it after Orb, Sceptre, Throne, but before Blood and Bone.
This post has been edited by Defiance: 25 December 2012 - 09:38 PM
uhm, that should be 'stuff.' My stiff is never nihilistic.
~Steven Erikson
Mythwood: Play-by-post RP board.
~Steven Erikson
Mythwood: Play-by-post RP board.
#6
Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:01 AM
Thanks Defiance for the help. Yesterday The Wertzone posted a new reading order, updated with OST and BaB.
Erikson and ICE don't want make things easy for the readers
Erikson and ICE don't want make things easy for the readers
This post has been edited by Unexist: 26 December 2012 - 09:02 AM
#7
Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:39 PM
Unexist, on 26 December 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:
Thanks Defiance for the help. Yesterday The Wertzone posted a new reading order, updated with OST and BaB.
Erikson and ICE don't want make things easy for the readers
Erikson and ICE don't want make things easy for the readers
Wert's list has 1 major spoiler problem, but overall is pretty good. It doesn't give you a lot of choice, though where some exists. If you want to, follow Wert's list but switch RG with RotCG (RotCG actually spoils at least one major part of RG).
If you want some more flexibility/comprehensiveness, follow this:
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This post has been edited by D'rek: 26 May 2013 - 05:34 AM
#8
Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:29 PM
Ok, RG before RotCG.
I don't know two books in the picture you posted: Assail, I believe, it's the next ICE novel.
But what about Goats of Glory? Never heard this novel/novella before...
PS: great work the picture, explain a lot for newbie like me.
I don't know two books in the picture you posted: Assail, I believe, it's the next ICE novel.
But what about Goats of Glory? Never heard this novel/novella before...
PS: great work the picture, explain a lot for newbie like me.
This post has been edited by Unexist: 27 December 2012 - 05:32 PM
#9
Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:12 PM
Goats of Glory is a short story found in a book called Swords & Dark Magic.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#10
Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:17 PM
#11
Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:39 AM
Welcome! Came here myself for exactly the same reason.
Well you have about 8 and a half books (+a ton of bonus stuff) of awesomeness ahead of you, you lucky bastard.
By the way, is this your first english read? Gotm was for me and i remember struggling quite a lot at first (Oh, that Kruppe chapter).
If you have any other quetion, just ask!!
Isn't that Wertzone map a little too... "compressed"? I mean, in Drek's representation the continents are more spaced out (and i kind of agree with her).
Well you have about 8 and a half books (+a ton of bonus stuff) of awesomeness ahead of you, you lucky bastard.
By the way, is this your first english read? Gotm was for me and i remember struggling quite a lot at first (Oh, that Kruppe chapter).
If you have any other quetion, just ask!!
Isn't that Wertzone map a little too... "compressed"? I mean, in Drek's representation the continents are more spaced out (and i kind of agree with her).
We are the Vord. Prepare to be assimilated. Furycrafting is futile.
#12
Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:35 PM
Hello Tehol, nice to see another italian fan of Erikson-ICE
I read a lot of english books before Malazan, knowing that Erikson stuff are... challenging (dozens characters, a huge world, philosophy etc etc).
Started reading in english 6 months ago with Harry Potter Series, Joe Abercombie First Law, Patrick Rothfuss, Tolkien and others... And finally picked up Malazan and enjoyed it. Not so diffucult reading Erikson, for example Guy Gavriel Kay is far more complicated.
I love maps. Link for Drek's?
I read a lot of english books before Malazan, knowing that Erikson stuff are... challenging (dozens characters, a huge world, philosophy etc etc).
Started reading in english 6 months ago with Harry Potter Series, Joe Abercombie First Law, Patrick Rothfuss, Tolkien and others... And finally picked up Malazan and enjoyed it. Not so diffucult reading Erikson, for example Guy Gavriel Kay is far more complicated.
I love maps. Link for Drek's?
This post has been edited by Unexist: 28 December 2012 - 12:36 PM
#13
Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:49 PM
We are the Vord. Prepare to be assimilated. Furycrafting is futile.
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