[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Oh right, first bend removal wasn't a recruit so Baudin didn't betray me. I'm confused that "You will be told the ability name and target of someone's action and be given the chance to provide an alternate target." from Bolin's PM means he gets my entirelist of abilities though, not just the ability he is redirecting?

Wow.... You're right, this was a blatant mistake on my part, and this is the first time I (or anyone) even noticed it. I'm sorry! In my head, when I was resolving, it was a control ability, so I just equated it to Amon's or Tarrlok's blood bending abilities.

Huh? I caught it. Even before I died. That's why I thought it was PS punishing for the on thread PM quotes. There was no reason for Giles to have all that info.

Or, I'm completely missing something else here?

[Path-Shaper]

Gnaw, on 10 January 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Oh right, first bend removal wasn't a recruit so Baudin didn't betray me. I'm confused that "You will be told the ability name and target of someone's action and be given the chance to provide an alternate target." from Bolin's PM means he gets my entirelist of abilities though, not just the ability he is redirecting?

Wow.... You're right, this was a blatant mistake on my part, and this is the first time I (or anyone) even noticed it. I'm sorry! In my head, when I was resolving, it was a control ability, so I just equated it to Amon's or Tarrlok's blood bending abilities.

Huh? I caught it. Even before I died. That's why I thought it was PS punishing for the on thread PM quotes. There was no reason for Giles to have all that info.

Or, I'm completely missing something else here?

Did you say something to me about it? Anyway, it was a mistake, shit happens.

Drek - you're right in that it would still have pegged you as Amon, but Team Avatar would not have had all that information about your other abilities if I hadn't made a mistake. That being said, you used that knowledge to stall the lynch TWO days running, so I guess it worked out for you in the end.

[Gnaw]

Liosan, on 28 December 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

lol Galain is going off the deep end

@D'rek

How should I have handled the situation day whatever when you hit L-1?

I knew that the hammer could fall anytime considering all the non US time zones in play.

So I decided that what you needed most was information. *shrug*

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 10 January 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Liosan, on 28 December 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

lol Galain is going off the deep end

@D'rek

How should I have handled the situation day whatever when you hit L-1?

I have no idea! But it was fun to watch!

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Did you say something to me about it? .

Not directly but it's in the comms with Oss and Tennes. And here:

Galain, on 28 December 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Liosan, on 22 December 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

Ok, so I want to figure this out. See, whether or not you think I'm scum or whatever, it still makes no sense for Atrah to have such a reveal.

Atrahal was Brolin. Brolin is an Earthbender. And this get-abilities NA is Bloodbending, which is a specific skill of Waterbenders. Brolin can't Waterbend, so he definitely can't Bloodbend. How then did he get this info?

I think I have an explanation for this.

Galain, on 20 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Oh, ho ho ho.

This could be modgod punishment for Liosan posting quotes from his PM in thread!

[D'rek]

Did EmpMagus ever give a reason for why he tried to kill me on night 1? The only PM of him putting in a prov on day 1 was:

Path-Shaper, on 17 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Anomandaris (Hiroshi Sato)

Anomandaris, on 17 December 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Prov : use Mecha Tank Blast on Kaschan and Fener(incapaciate on Fener)
Reasons:
1.Kaschan's avatar annoys me and Fener is Fener ...
2.He is as good as any other guy out there for a NK.
3.I want to have my NK back as soon as possible, judging by the numbers I have a very good chance of killing an enemy by this ability.

My current Strategy: *try* to find a lover pair.because I strongly suspect Korra and my daughter are lovers and I have to kill both of them to be safe...

Seeing as Kaschan is using Airbending, the kill ability will reflect back onto Hiroshi. Hiroshi is immune to NKs, and his Mecha Tank Blast is subject to BPs and other similar effects, he will not be affected. Already this is fun!

so he must have changed it afterwards but it didn't get posted. I'm really curious since his role PM tells him I'm his leader!

[D'rek]

Oh yeah, and what was the deal with the weird recruit CF(s)?

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and what was the deal with the weird recruit CF(s)?

What do you mean weird recruit CFs?

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

Did EmpMagus ever give a reason for why he tried to kill me on night 1? The only PM of him putting in a prov on day 1 was:

Path-Shaper, on 17 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Anomandaris (Hiroshi Sato)

Anomandaris, on 17 December 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Prov : use Mecha Tank Blast on Kaschan and Fener(incapaciate on Fener)
Reasons:
1.Kaschan's avatar annoys me and Fener is Fener ...
2.He is as good as any other guy out there for a NK.
3.I want to have my NK back as soon as possible, judging by the numbers I have a very good chance of killing an enemy by this ability.

My current Strategy: *try* to find a lover pair.because I strongly suspect Korra and my daughter are lovers and I have to kill both of them to be safe...

Seeing as Kaschan is using Airbending, the kill ability will reflect back onto Hiroshi. Hiroshi is immune to NKs, and his Mecha Tank Blast is subject to BPs and other similar effects, he will not be affected. Already this is fun!

so he must have changed it afterwards but it didn't get posted. I'm really curious since his role PM tells him I'm his leader!

This is what he said:

Anomandaris, on 19 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

If you are curious about my NK on Lio:
He was being very talkative and very very scummy,those 2 "YAY"s made my mind.I knew he had a kind of BP ability (probably stronger than mine" so I used my NK on him to warn him to shot up.(or coerce him into shutting up ... whatever).I just hope you notify people if abilities were tried on them and blocked.
BUT, It just occurred to me that maybe his BP ability was a onetime thing.I now am sorry.
Lio looks like he is a noob.(sorry if you are not!).Gnaw?
He can be tats too, He certainly talks a lot.
Very strange that OE was ment.
If I just ruined my team's chances, I'm gonna steal Khell's title.

[Gnaw]

I still can't figure out why Karosis hammered Liosan. That one has me baffled.

[Gnaw]

Osseric, on 10 January 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

Karosis, on 10 January 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Well Osseric is Kora for those who don't know.. If there are any one who can do anything about it.

I think everyone knew this after Galain's fake PM to Path Shaper. But thanks for the update

I resent TheDude's implication here.

There was nothing fake about that PM.

Nothing at all.

[Gnaw]

And I too vote for calling the game. Spite and Karosis can't do anything to affect the outcome.

[D'rek]

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and what was the deal with the weird recruit CF(s)?

What do you mean weird recruit CFs?

When I FM'd to Galain, the CF was "Liosan was lynched" instead of "Liosan is dead" like all the others, and the CF had Team Avatar instead of Equalist. Wondering if that was a hidden mechanic for my recruits to CF as their original faction or something.

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

Did EmpMagus ever give a reason for why he tried to kill me on night 1? The only PM of him putting in a prov on day 1 was:

Path-Shaper, on 17 December 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Anomandaris (Hiroshi Sato)

Anomandaris, on 17 December 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Prov : use Mecha Tank Blast on Kaschan and Fener(incapaciate on Fener)
Reasons:
1.Kaschan's avatar annoys me and Fener is Fener ...
2.He is as good as any other guy out there for a NK.
3.I want to have my NK back as soon as possible, judging by the numbers I have a very good chance of killing an enemy by this ability.

My current Strategy: *try* to find a lover pair.because I strongly suspect Korra and my daughter are lovers and I have to kill both of them to be safe...

Seeing as Kaschan is using Airbending, the kill ability will reflect back onto Hiroshi. Hiroshi is immune to NKs, and his Mecha Tank Blast is subject to BPs and other similar effects, he will not be affected. Already this is fun!

so he must have changed it afterwards but it didn't get posted. I'm really curious since his role PM tells him I'm his leader!

This is what he said:

Anomandaris, on 19 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

If you are curious about my NK on Lio:
He was being very talkative and very very scummy,those 2 "YAY"s made my mind.I knew he had a kind of BP ability (probably stronger than mine" so I used my NK on him to warn him to shot up.(or coerce him into shutting up ... whatever).I just hope you notify people if abilities were tried on them and blocked.
BUT, It just occurred to me that maybe his BP ability was a onetime thing.I now am sorry.
Lio looks like he is a noob.(sorry if you are not!).Gnaw?
He can be tats too, He certainly talks a lot.
Very strange that OE was ment.
If I just ruined my team's chances, I'm gonna steal Khell's title.

OMG, really? You NK'd your leader on night 1 as a "warning"?!

Top of the list... top of the list...

This post has been edited by D'rek: 10 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 10 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and what was the deal with the weird recruit CF(s)?

What do you mean weird recruit CFs?

When I FM'd to Galain, the CF was "Liosan was lynched" instead of "Liosan is dead" like all the others, and the CF had Team Avatar instead of Equalist. Wondering if that was a hidden mechanic for my recruits to CF as their original faction or something.

Hmmmm, the use of the word lynch was just a mistake on my part, but when you FM jumped, the person you jumped to was always meant to CF as their original role and faction. I did it unconsciously, and didn't even really think of it that way!

[Gnaw]

D, on 10 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 19 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Lio looks like he is a noob.(sorry if you are not!).Gnaw?

OMG, really? You NK'd your leader on night 1 as a "warning" alted me as Gnaw?!

Top of the list... top of the list...

There, fixed that for you.

[D'rek]

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

D, on 10 January 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and what was the deal with the weird recruit CF(s)?

What do you mean weird recruit CFs?

When I FM'd to Galain, the CF was "Liosan was lynched" instead of "Liosan is dead" like all the others, and the CF had Team Avatar instead of Equalist. Wondering if that was a hidden mechanic for my recruits to CF as their original faction or something.

Hmmmm, the use of the word lynch was just a mistake on my part, but when you FM jumped, the person you jumped to was always meant to CF as their original role and faction. I did it unconsciously, and didn't even really think of it that way!

That's pretty weird. So if I'd recruited someone from Republic City it would've said Republic City instead of Equalist? What about recruits who just died normally - would they CF as Equalist or their original faction?

[Path-Shaper]

If they had died normally, they would have CF'd Equalist. The FM jump was meant to be a misdirect. IE someone who they thought was Amon or an Equalist ends up being someone completely different / unexpected.

[D'rek]

Path-Shaper, on 10 January 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

If they had died normally, they would have CF'd Equalist. The FM jump was meant to be a misdirect. IE someone who they thought was Amon or an Equalist ends up being someone completely different / unexpected.

As long as it's not one of the 5 around team avatar

At some point I had been expecting an equalist CF and was hoping to be able to play it off as a sort of "Oh, so he was an equalist just not Amon" situation if no one knew about the FM power. Once the FM power became known, that wouldn't have worked regardless.

[Blend]

Thanks for playing everyone!

All critiques and comments are welcome and encouraged!

[Khellendros]

Phew, got through the whole of the spoiler thread.


Team Avatar was awesomesauce for like 2 days and 2 nights, and then we steadily got dumber and dumber. I especially appeared to have gotten stupider with every succeeding day. There's no other way to put it. We were fucking lucky to win. In the end, I think it was Karosis' sneakiness about being scum (sometimes the HO tactic doesn't pay off!!) which undid the Equalists more than anything we did - if he had been more forward scum might have cottoned on about their number of players.


I'm very happy I managed to at least identify and kill Anomandaris - that was really my major challenge (and also the last bit of intelligence I used).


D'rek's act which suggested that she had 90% given up on the game really suckered me. It made me naively believe almost everything she was saying without thinking about it, simply because I thought, 'oh, she's not trying to play properly.' I'm a fool

I'm still confused by one thing though? Could or could not Amon re-direct any lynch, or just a lynch on them?



You might not know it from the thread, but when you actually come in and look at SH, this was a fantastically topsy-turvy game. Both Equalists and town looked like they could win easily any number of times before it switched again.

As ever, I really love the complexity of the roles, top notch Blend! I especially liked all the fail safes you built it, I thought that was excellent. Just when you think you have a character - BAM! An ability kicks in and they slide away And I think overall it seemed like a pretty fine balance (as demonstrated by the amount of swinging between faction superiority). The one thing I would have suggested is maybe comms between two of the Equalists to balance out the Team Avatar comms.