[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 19 December 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

questions: with the ferret can i redirect it too me an dpossibly counter it with the earth bending?
second does the target incapacitated with my earth bending know it was because they targetted me?

I shall answer both questions in one word


no


Venge

Actually, YES to the first question, no to the second.

As your Pro Earth Bending ability is triggered by the first NA targeted at you, if you aren't already targeted by something that is sooner in the order of resolution, then yes, it will be triggered. The problem is that you will not be told if you have been targeted by something else until after you have decided where to redirect the NA you have used Fire Ferret to control, so you won't know for sure if you incapacitated the person you controlled, or someone else.

Second question, no. The target will only be told that they have been incapacitated and that their ability has therefore failed.

- Blend

Did you tell them your answer?

Or do you want me to?


Venge

I told them

[Mentalist]

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 19 December 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 19 December 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 18 December 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Sixty, I am less than impressed.

Mental... How wonderful to see you again..


Venge

good to be back... though I didn't imagine I'd find myself in spoilers quite this early on.

Yeah I have been getting knocked out a couple of games myself. Don't have time to spam and make it look like I am doing something anymore. You missed Tappers last TOD game where people where able to prevent lynches from happening. I abused that a lot.

did people complain that you were a coward?

I would've loved to abuse that (though blocking all NAs is even better), but my life was hell at the time.

No cause I was the motherfucking Dreadfather. Who was silencing motherfuckers left and right. Plus there where other people who where stopping lynches too. In fact anybody who could get there hands on 6 worship could do it. I was practically printing the shit which was one of the reasons why the game was stopped. Won't be able to do that in the next one.

lol, those economics games Tapper is so fond of don't seem to be my cup of tea, tbh. Probably a good thing I missed that game.

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Osseric, on 19 December 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

ok, I got it.

I don't want to start the train as I will become a major equalist target if I start 2 trains on them.

Bolin, Asami or Mako ( probably Mako cause we need Asami's ability if this doesn't work and Bolin isn't on enough) needs to start a train on liosan based on this premise.. and this should work:


Go on thread and comment on the fact that Karosis and Liosan don't have voting abilities which means they probably got hit with a detrimental NA last night. We know that the equalists, in order to win the game probably have some sort of kill ability. There were no equalist NK's last night. It is possible that one of the 2 people that got hit with NA's last night is an equalist who's actions didn't go through. A no vote could be considered a form of guard. so maybe Lio or karosis were guarded last night...hence no NK.

Of the 2, you would go after Lio because he seemed the most interested, post night resolution, of how these NA's were resolved. (quote Lio's spat with PS) meaning he was trying, on thread to figure out why his NK didn't go through. Karosis seemed to be genuinely confused with what happened. soooo vote Liosan.




He'll scream bloody murder, bitch about how it doesn't make sense, say it's all wrong and you are basing your case off BS ( which we are). He'll probably throw an OMGUS vote on whoever made the case. But who cares. Asami can jump on, i'll jump on saying that it's a great catch... and the sheeple will follow. Bolin can come on when he gets here and jump on as well... I am sure Tenzin will follow too. Thats 5/14 and we only need 3 more votes.


This will do 2 things. Kill an equalist, and get Mako off people's radar for making a case on an equalist.


Thoughts?

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Mentalist, on 19 December 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

lol, those economics games Tapper is so fond of don't seem to be my cup of tea, tbh. Probably a good thing I missed that game.

I have abandoned playing them too. I am now working with Tapper and Gnaw on balancing and running them. Expect more blood and killings.

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Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Ah, missed a post, Lio has admitted it.

Ok, what I would do is make up a fake analysis of the people on the lynch train, and then point to the one you think the likeliest to be equalist - ie Lio. Use post number 162 as part of the argument. Combine this with an assumption of who is the likeliest equalist out of those who stayed off the train. That is, end up with two 'suspects', one on the train and one off it. Then vote Lio as the one with, in your opinion, beter chance of being equalist.

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Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

Osseric, on 19 December 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

ok, I got it.

I don't want to start the train as I will become a major equalist target if I start 2 trains on them.

Bolin, Asami or Mako ( probably Mako cause we need Asami's ability if this doesn't work and Bolin isn't on enough) needs to start a train on liosan based on this premise.. and this should work:


Go on thread and comment on the fact that Karosis and Liosan don't have voting abilities which means they probably got hit with a detrimental NA last night. We know that the equalists, in order to win the game probably have some sort of kill ability. There were no equalist NK's last night. It is possible that one of the 2 people that got hit with NA's last night is an equalist who's actions didn't go through. A no vote could be considered a form of guard. so maybe Lio or karosis were guarded last night...hence no NK.

Of the 2, you would go after Lio because he seemed the most interested, post night resolution, of how these NA's were resolved. (quote Lio's spat with PS) meaning he was trying, on thread to figure out why his NK didn't go through. Karosis seemed to be genuinely confused with what happened. soooo vote Liosan.




He'll scream bloody murder, bitch about how it doesn't make sense, say it's all wrong and you are basing your case off BS ( which we are). He'll probably throw an OMGUS vote on whoever made the case. But who cares. Asami can jump on, i'll jump on saying that it's a great catch... and the sheeple will follow. Bolin can come on when he gets here and jump on as well... I am sure Tenzin will follow too. Thats 5/14 and we only need 3 more votes.


This will do 2 things. Kill an equalist, and get Mako off people's radar for making a case on an equalist.


Thoughts?

Very good. In the meantime take a closer look at Ampelas. He's doing lot of attempts at subject changing.

I forgot to post the bit about OE being friendly fire, but nobody else seems to have made that connection. But amp keeps insisting that it was a vig.

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Already getting ready to give each other hand jobs

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

I love that I'm using the comments of somebody I'm wary and unsure of to try to hang somebody I am sure of.

Fantastic case mate. I'll be on in a short while to give my 'thoughts' on it. But first, dinner beckons!

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

I love that I'm using the comments of somebody I'm wary and unsure of to try to hang somebody I am sure of.

Fantastic case mate. I'll be on in a short while to give my 'thoughts' on it. But first, dinner beckons!

There is a big downside to me being the one going after Lio. It would be pretty easy to make it look as if I'm covering Karosis.

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

There is a big downside to me being the one going after Lio. It would be pretty easy to make it look as if I'm covering Karosis.

But what's done is done.

In the end, I'd be almost as happy with a Karosis lynch. so all good.

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

Osseric, on 18 December 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

Galain, on 17 December 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 December 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Huh, I had no idea that was the old Kaschan avatar. Guess I'm still a relative noob I just liked the picture!

Hmm. Did he catch the hint or not?

Looks like no >.<

think there's any chance he picked up on your second try?

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yeah, I thought it had went something like this. *shrug* Joke vote == big chunk of meat out of my ass

Galain, on 18 December 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

Karosis, on 18 December 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Well I'm going old school alt hating and starting the train on Fener.

Vote Fener

let the hate flow!

Nah. the hate won't flow until day 3 or 4 when all this comes back to bite us on the ass.

Let the whine flow!

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Galain, on 19 December 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Re Fener - I agree with Ossie that he should be watched. He was on immediately asking for guard reveals. Almost looks like Lio informed him off-thread what happened to him, and then Fener tried to do some investigating on-thread.

The other option might be that Fener is the one who blocked Karosis from voting - and then wanted to see what people would make of it by bringing it up. So he is certainly not definitely scum, but still someone to watch.

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Tennes, on 19 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Re Fener - I agree with Ossie that he should be watched. He was on immediately asking for guard reveals. Almost looks like Lio informed him off-thread what happened to him, and then Fener tried to do some investigating on-thread.

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Silanah, on 19 December 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

By full control of an alt do you include posting?

I do not believe so. You are not given access to the alt you just are allowed to choose which of their night actions to use and against whom the night action is used. But I will have Blend clarify.



Venge

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Spite, on 19 December 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 December 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Spite, on 19 December 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Lio should just have PMed you. Dammit.

EDIT: that being said, with incapacitate coming before block/reflect, there is no way he could possibly be reflected. Incapacitate comes before reflect.

Correct, if someone is incapacitated, they cannot reflect an attack on them.

OK, so Galain IS misreading/misrepresenting things on thread.
Please kali stick Galain if he isn't lynched, Tennes if he is.

Noted

Venge

[Path-Shaper]

By the way, I will be sleeping when Day times out, so will you be around Venge? Bru?

[Path-Shaper]

Okay, quick clarification for those helping me mod - Air bending will reflect Metal bending, but will not reflect other (Equalist) incapacitate abilities.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis, on 19 December 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

My team is committing suicide........FUCK!!!!

I was thinking the same thing, heh. But we shall see. If Spite can manage to turn it onto Galain, this could end up being an interesting day. But Team Avatar have basically sussed out Amon, though they don't know it yet. If they concentrate on killing him, they could get the biggest threat to them out of the game fairly quickly. Then they only have to contend with Hiroshi Sato as a big threat.

I'm rather enjoying this. It's going in a completely different direction than I thought it would! So weird to sit back and watch this beast work.

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So I am looking at Spite and Galain's abilities right now. If Spite keeps his Kali Sticks on Galain, it would incapacitate him, so technically his Pro Fire bending would not trigger.

That being said, I have just realized that the pro fire bending basically is more damaging to Team Avatar and Republic City than it is to the Equalists. The only Equalist abilities this would be triggered by are Hiroshi Sato's Mecha Tank Blast kill, and Feathered Hat Man's Stalk ability, and an Independent Amon's Ice Bending.

I am thinking that Galain should still be incapacitated, but that his return fire should still be effective, meaning he gets incapacitated, and Spite still gets hit by a Kill ability (thus using up a BP).

Any thoughts?

The order of resolution for the incapacitate ability is becoming a real pain in my ass, but I am thinking that with a little refinement, this could be a fun ability come future games.

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Atrahal, on 19 December 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Night 2 Provisionals


Use the Ferret on Liosan or if Liosan is lynched use ferret on Spite

Liosan is gonna be pissed about that one. It will allow Atrahal to confirm that Liosan is Amon, though the only active ability that Atrahal will have access to control is Remove Bending.

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From Emurlahn (Lin Beifong)

Emurlahn, on 19 December 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I am in a little bit of a pickle. I want to survive until day 3 but I also want to give the thread and town more information. At the moment they are deciding on a lynch due to the people who cannot vote today amongst other things. Well I am also a person who cannot vote and that is what is bothering me. I want people to know I cannot vote but then I don't want the equalists targetting me. could have been Chi Blocked

Quote

Chi blocking is an ancient technique that has been practiced in secret for centuries.^[1] It is a special ability that Ty Lee, and later the Equalists, utilized in combat against their enemies. Blocking someone's chi renders the victim's muscles useless and temporarily disables a bender's abilities. This earned Katara's fear and spite after Ty Lee blocked her chi in Omashu. Chi blocking is mainly used by non-benders as a way of self-defense or even an attack form

which is an equalist action.

I could also have targetted Tennes who was a Chi Blocker/Equalist and his ability has hit me in return.

I don' want Shin to know these thoughts as I want to become and independent. So here's my pickle...

mention my non voting due to target fail / targetting Tennes and therefore give myself a bit of pressure before going to bed

OR

say absolutely nothing, create an excuse for not posting. That could bring on lynch hurt day 3 and that is the day I need to survive. Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck.

The despair is so delicious.

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn in the Lin Beifong/Captain Saikhan offthread comms

Emurlahn, on 19 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 December 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

I think we should code our relationship. It may not be of any use whatsoever, but then again circumstances may make it a good thing.

Ability-wise I am a guard, but don't know how useful that will be at the onset considering the player count suggests that I would more likely end up guarding one of our own than someone else (since our so-called scum faction is small and everyone has some sort of ability apparently).

I am Amp's lover. We are Republican City Faction

I have had time for a quick catch up but nothing intense yet. I am going to bed soon and will have some time tomorrow. There are definitely connections being created. Amp got the first vote of the day. I see Spite attacked Galain for attacking Liosan and I'm not sure what to make of that, Spite could be a Lover of Liosan, a symp of Liosan, done a find on Liosan. When any player openly defends another player then they must know something about that player that we don't otherwise why stick out your neck like that? Lio did only reveal after Karosis. This could be a person with the ability to block other people from voting and using that to "reveal" that they are one of us when in fact they are the ones doing it. So I am not sure what to make of that yet.

Olar's CF was very surprising to me as I had connected him to Ruse day one. We are lucky for the day one lynch and the clearing up of Olar. The fact that Ruse was Equalist and Olar turned out to be Republic City Faction came as a little shock.


Basically I need a more intense read up before actually making up my mind on anything. Back later

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis is frustrated:

Karosis, on 19 December 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

My team is committing suicide........FUCK!!!!

Karosis, on 19 December 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

Trying my best to draw people away from Amon.........

Karosis, on 19 December 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

not working....fuck

Karosis, on 20 December 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

spite totally fucked us......if he is on one of the other teams...good job....

if he is on my team.....dumbass

[Path-Shaper]

Galain, on 20 December 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

Night 2 provisional:

Lightning bending on Liosan. If lynched, Lightning bending on Fener.

This is interesting. If Spite doesn't move his Kali Sticks to someone else, Galain's Pro-Fire bending will take over his action, so he won't be able to use this. Wonder if anyone else will think to put a kill on Liosan. Otherwise, he could survive the night and considering he is already going to survive the lynch today if it goes his way, cause of his lynch proof, he will probably be a big target tomorrow. He's going to have to work hard to stay alive to Day 5 to use Desperation, which I was really hoping to see.