[Tennes]

Atrahal was a member of Team Avatar, as per his CF. Atrahal revealed Liosan to be Amon. I don't need more than that to want to lynch Liosan again.

[Liosan]

Tennes, on 21 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Atrahal was a member of Team Avatar, as per his CF. Atrahal revealed Liosan to be Amon. I don't need more than that to want to lynch Liosan again.

So you're just going to ignore all the reasonable deconstructions of your crappy arguments? Basically the equivalent of "lalalalalala fingers in my ears" ???

Here let me throw you another one: Why did Atrahal have an ability to supposedly read all my abilities, which Sil claims was bloodbending, if Bolin is an earth bender?

[Liosan]

Lol, after all Tennes by your and Atrah's logic I could now declare that Atrah was an Equalist recruit who still CFs as Team Avatar

[Liosan]

Liosan, on 21 December 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Tennes, on 21 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Atrahal was a member of Team Avatar, as per his CF. Atrahal revealed Liosan to be Amon. I don't need more than that to want to lynch Liosan again.

So you're just going to ignore all the reasonable deconstructions of your crappy arguments? Basically the equivalent of "lalalalalala fingers in my ears" ???

Here let me throw you another one: Why did Atrahal have an ability to supposedly read all my abilities, which Sil claims was bloodbending, if Bolin is an earth bender?

and just in case you stumble upon the only plausible answer, lest I lose my legitimacy, energybending would be one possibility, but I didn't do that to him.

[Tennes]

If by reasonable deductions I mean your bullshit, yeah, I'm going to ignore all that, and you, from now on.

I hardly think members of Team Avatar are recruitable by you. And if a confirmed member of one of them says you're Amon, and further gives details about you, more details than you've ever shared yourself (because you can't), then unsurprisingly yes, that is good enough for me.

I cannot vote, but I hope others do vote for you.

[Osseric]

Don't be stupid Liosan. a member of Team avatar posted your role PM.

AND PULLED A STUPID MOVE...(dammit Azath)

Why would a confirmed power player out you if you were Korra.

I just hope we have enough people able to vote that can lynch you before you get too powerful.

[Kaschan]

I don't even...

PEOPLE! Sometimes revealing is not the answer!

I'm going to return with a fresh slate after the Christmas break.

[Liosan]

Osseric, on 22 December 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Don't be stupid Liosan. a member of Team avatar posted your role PM.

AND PULLED A STUPID MOVE...(dammit Azath)

Why would a confirmed power player out you if you were Korra.

I just hope we have enough people able to vote that can lynch you before you get too powerful.

That makes no sense, though. If this supposed member of Team Avatar was telling the truth why would I not have FM-jumped out of here by now? It doesn't add up.

Now I don't buy the crazy Atrah/Tennes idea of recruits not getting the Equalist CF, meaning Atrah really was a Team Avatarer, but he was dead wrong about me. Maybe figuring out why he thought that will be the key to this, I don't know.

[Liosan]

Ok, so I want to figure this out. See, whether or not you think I'm scum or whatever, it still makes no sense for Atrah to have such a reveal.

Atrahal was Brolin. Brolin is an Earthbender. And this get-abilities NA is Bloodbending, which is a specific skill of Waterbenders. Brolin can't Waterbend, so he definitely can't Bloodbend. How then did he get this info? Furthermore, if this were his ability, he surely would have used it on me the first night I was on the chopping block, and on someone supposedly associated with me - ie Tulas or Spite - the second night, but he didn't reveal anything about them, which would have helped town - and he is town so he would have.

So my theory is that Atrah did not have the Bloodbend NA. Instead, on some night he received the result of someone else doing it. I don't know how exactly, but we have both Reflect and Control actions we don't know about, plus other un-named actions. So I'm theorizing that on some night Atrah got this list of abilities and either got additional info that lead him to believe it was me, or else had some other reason to reach that conclusion. Unfortunately, this information did not refer to me (and I suspect did not actually refer to Amon either since it doesn't mention Bloodbending or removing bending abilities, which we know Amon can do from the plot/OP), but Atrah believed that it did, and hence went all out in his aggression against me and the reveal.

[Liosan]

Thoughts anyone?

[Osseric]

Liosan, on 22 December 2012 - 04:00 AM, said:

Thoughts anyone?

No one wants to talk to you cause you are Amon. duh. Everything you say just clouds the thread.

He was team avatar, one of the 3 good guy power roles. He outed you as amon. You had a LP consistant with an uber role. You are not Korra or Atrahal would have known as he is on team avatar and it's a pretty safe assumption that they know each other. Sooooo you are Amon and scum and need to be lynched. nothing else makes sense. He didn't just pull up a random role PM and bust it out on thread and blame it on you for shits and giggles.

[Ampelas]

Speaking of shits, i am in bed with the norovirus. Joy. Liosan, this doesnt look good for you.

[Galain]

Path-Shaper, on 21 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

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14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Silanah, Spite, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Liosan (osseric,Tennes, kaschan,Fener,Tulas Shorn,atrahal,Emurlahn, amp)


Players not voted: , Anomandaris, Karosis, Spite.

Game is about to unfreeze I think.
I cannot vote today. Tennes has stated he can't either. TS, Atrahal, and Silanah are dead. And we still don't know what side Liosan is.
Looking at Day 3 voting, I don't think enough people would get on another Liosan lynch because they don't know if he's Korra or Amon. Yeah, the LP points to him being either Korra or Amon (assuming that only those two roles would have LP's)but it leaves open which one he is.

I say vote Spite. He's obviously symping Liosan. (For those of you with a doubt about that I'll refer to his 'reason' for not voting Liosan; he was waiting from word from PS on whether I was breaking a rule by voting even though I had been told by PS that I couldn't vote. That just might be a mafia hall of shame entry for "stupidest excuse to not vote somebody". Liosan himself had voted on Day 2 after being told he couldn't vote.)
Lynch Spite and we'll know which faction Lio is.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 4. 36 hours remaining.

11 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Spite, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Spite, Tennes

Timer is officially unfrozen. Will run one day and one night, then freeze the timer again until next year!

[Osseric]

Galain, on 27 December 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 21 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

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14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Silanah, Spite, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Liosan (osseric,Tennes, kaschan,Fener,Tulas Shorn,atrahal,Emurlahn, amp)


Players not voted: , Anomandaris, Karosis, Spite.

Game is about to unfreeze I think.
I cannot vote today. Tennes has stated he can't either. TS, Atrahal, and Silanah are dead. And we still don't know what side Liosan is.
Looking at Day 3 voting, I don't think enough people would get on another Liosan lynch because they don't know if he's Korra or Amon. Yeah, the LP points to him being either Korra or Amon (assuming that only those two roles would have LP's)but it leaves open which one he is.

I say vote Spite. He's obviously symping Liosan. (For those of you with a doubt about that I'll refer to his 'reason' for not voting Liosan; he was waiting from word from PS on whether I was breaking a rule by voting even though I had been told by PS that I couldn't vote. That just might be a mafia hall of shame entry for "stupidest excuse to not vote somebody". Liosan himself had voted on Day 2 after being told he couldn't vote.)
Lynch Spite and we'll know which faction Lio is.

If we can get a spite Lynch, we can get a Liosan Lynch. We need 6 to lynch. unless Lio has 3 (spite included) symps left, we should still have enough. 11-2 (lio and Spite)-2 (you and tennes)= 7. Thats 7 people that can vote Lio. We only need 6. Your post confuses me. I thought you were on the good guy side... but this post makes me confused about where your allegiances are. you were the biggest anti-lio person on thread, now you want spite. Why the 180?

[Fener]

Because if we lynch lio and he turns out to be korra then we're in deep shit.

If we lynch spite and we lynch a weak role on team avatar it's a lot lower risk but gives us a pretty good idea whether lio is korra or amon.

[Osseric]

Fener, on 27 December 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Because if we lynch lio and he turns out to be korra then we're in deep shit.

If we lynch spite and we lynch a weak role on team avatar it's a lot lower risk but gives us a pretty good idea whether lio is korra or amon.

Why would a confirmed member of team avatar so vehemently go after Korra? Atrahal seemed pretty convinced that Lio was Amon.

[Fener]

I don't understand that fully, but the details of Atrahal's reveal on Lio don't fully check out IMO. I was convinced Amon would have an ability to remove the ability to bend--that'd make sense, no?

I don't know the show's lore really, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of a symp CFing as team avatar. Can you explain to me why that wouldn't be possible?

[Spite]

Galain, on 27 December 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 21 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

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14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Silanah, Spite, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Liosan (osseric,Tennes, kaschan,Fener,Tulas Shorn,atrahal,Emurlahn, amp)


Players not voted: , Anomandaris, Karosis, Spite.

I say vote Spite. He's obviously symping Liosan. (For those of you with a doubt about that I'll refer to his 'reason' for not voting Liosan; he was waiting from word from PS on whether I was breaking a rule by voting even though I had been told by PS that I couldn't vote. That just might be a mafia hall of shame entry for "stupidest excuse to not vote somebody". Liosan himself had voted on Day 2 after being told he couldn't vote.)
Lynch Spite and we'll know which faction Lio is.

The text I received was "your night actions will fail and you may not vote". Both you and Silanah, in that order, voted someone.
You may not vote =/= your vote does not count, as I am sure you are aware of. I was waiting for a ruling on that. FYI, I still haven't received an answer to this question.
So no, it was not a bullshit excuse to not vote Liosan, it was a legit rule question.

I could have happily laid a vote down if "you may not vote" meant "your vote does not count". After all, voting then would have had zero implications. Personally though, I don't want to bend/break Path-Shaper's rules or the spirit of his rules - so forgive me for trying to be clear instead of riding the coattails of you and Sil who are already doing this, gambling P-S wouldn't punish/ mod kill.

But nice word twisting once again.

[Kaschan]

Hope everyone had a good Christmas break!

Fener, on 27 December 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

I don't understand that fully, but the details of Atrahal's reveal on Lio don't fully check out IMO. I was convinced Amon would have an ability to remove the ability to bend--that'd make sense, no?

I don't know the show's lore really, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of a symp CFing as team avatar. Can you explain to me why that wouldn't be possible?

Bolin and Mako are Korra's best friends, and as such are unlikely to be symps. In fact, as a character that close to Korra, there is a chance that he knows who she is. If this is the case, Atrahal could have fake-revealed in order to secure the lynch. It's the only thing I can think of to explain the info we are given, but I'm open to other thoughts as well.