[Galain]

Silanah, on 20 December 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Shit, I forgot I couldn't vote. Wow, that was useless.

Not at all. It proved to Amon, Spite, and Tulas that you want to vote Amon.

And maybe to the rest of the RC and TA teams as well any independents. Time to step up.



Their leader probably (certainly in my mind) identified.




Their low ranking member, Spite.




And their middling one, Tulas.



Those are the equalists.

[Galain]

Guten Tag Lurking Lizard.

Was nichts?

Edit: that does mean "what's going on?" sorta right?

This post has been edited by Galain: 20 December 2012 - 06:23 PM

[Lizradusa]

Galain, on 20 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Guten Tag Lurking Lizard.

Was nichts?

Edit: that does mean "what's going on?" sorta right?

Not quite.
What you said means "What nothing?" Whereas what you wanted to say would be "Was ist los?" or "Was machst du gerade?"

As for answering that: I'm alternating between the forum and packing everything, so I can go to my parents tomorrow.

[Liosan]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 December 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

Liosan, did you get a fresh message of incapacitation or is this a continuance of yesterday's incapacitation? I'm wondering if vote blocking is the dreaded removal of bending ability (akin to a good-guy being unable to fight with the rest of the group).

New message.

[Galain]

Lizradus, on 20 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Galain, on 20 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Guten Tag Lurking Lizard.

Was nichts?

Edit: that does mean "what's going on?" sorta right?

Not quite.
What you said means "What nothing?" Whereas what you wanted to say would be "Was ist los?" or "Was machst du gerade?"

As for answering that: I'm alternating between the forum and packing everything, so I can go to my parents tomorrow.

Ah. yeah, after it was posted I thought there was something wrong with it. Sorry. Been a long time since I was in the land of the golden beers. What I wouldn't give for a bottle of Rauchenbier from Bamberg.

[Liosan]

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

ok, so 2 nights in a row with no equalist action. 2 nights in a row that Liosan has been incapacitated. 2 people that are adamant about not voting Liosan. He has to be Amon. (and we suspect an equalist faction of size 4-5). So Ruse, Spite, Tulas and Lio. Possibly one more?

vote Liosan


Not sure if there are even enough people who can vote to get a lynch now. But there is no way I am not voting Liosan today. Just way too much information gained by his lynch. We have to decide this or it will drag on and taint every subsequent decision in this game.

Okay, so you are assuming there has been no equalist action based solely on the Olar Ethil death scene, and then also assuming that Incapacitate not only blocks votes the next day but guards during the night as well? There are 3 other people here who can confirm for you that Incapacitate only prevents votes, and the message you get says nothing about being guarded.

But you seem pretty damn eager to ignore such common sense, jump to wild conclusions and rebuild the Lio train without allowing time for any sort of critical thinking to happen. Seems like a scummy thing to do, IMO.

[Liosan]

Vote Osseric

for shits and giggles since it won't even count

[Tulas Shorn]

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

14 people left, 3 who can't vote (assuming there are no more), so we need 8/11 people for a lynch and 2-3 of them are scum... We will need every inno on whatever lynch we decide (if the lynch takes down scum) or else we will end up with another no lynch. If people like Kaschan and Ampleas go another day with no participation we are screwed.

This assuming that Karosis still can't vote. But we haven't heard from him yet.

[Osseric]

What you said:

Liosan, on 20 December 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

ok, so 2 nights in a row with no equalist action. 2 nights in a row that Liosan has been incapacitated. 2 people that are adamant about not voting Liosan. He has to be Amon. (and we suspect an equalist faction of size 4-5). So Ruse, Spite, Tulas and Lio. Possibly one more?

vote Liosan


Not sure if there are even enough people who can vote to get a lynch now. But there is no way I am not voting Liosan today. Just way too much information gained by his lynch. We have to decide this or it will drag on and taint every subsequent decision in this game.

Okay, so you are assuming there has been no equalist action based solely on the Olar Ethil death scene, and then also assuming that Incapacitate not only blocks votes the next day but guards during the night as well? There are 3 other people here who can confirm for you that Incapacitate only prevents votes, and the message you get says nothing about being guarded.

But you seem pretty damn eager to ignore such common sense, jump to wild conclusions and rebuild the Lio train without allowing time for any sort of critical thinking to happen. Seems like a scummy thing to do, IMO.

What I read:

Quote

Blah blah blah I am Amon blah blah blah.

In response to your post. I am saying that:

Fact 1: There have been no equalist NK actions for 2 nights.
Fact 2: Liosan has been incapacitated for 2 nights in a row.
Fact 3: Liosan has had 2 people openly defend him.


Based on these 3 facts. (These are facts... you can't argue that these 3 things haven't happened). Based on these facts, it is my deduction that you are Amon. Am I sure? No, but I am very confident. I am not basing anything on the OE night scene. I am not saying that a vote incapacitation is the equivalent of a guard. All I am saying is that is awfully convenient that the equalists have made no NK's in 2 nights, and in those same 2 nights you have been hit with abilities that I don't fully understand because they haven't happened to me.

For me it's enough to warrant a vote. Especially with all the info it will give us. Am I sticking my neck out here.. yeah a little. If you come back inno it will look bad on me. But I think my vote on you is based upon some good critical thinking.

If you come back scum, we have great direction. If you come back inno it gives us more great direction. All this good info comes from your lynch. So you can say I am not thinking critically, but I am sure the other townies will see that I am thinking very clearly and that you lynch will provide the thread with the best possible direction.

[Osseric]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 December 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

14 people left, 3 who can't vote (assuming there are no more), so we need 8/11 people for a lynch and 2-3 of them are scum... We will need every inno on whatever lynch we decide (if the lynch takes down scum) or else we will end up with another no lynch. If people like Kaschan and Ampleas go another day with no participation we are screwed.

This assuming that Karosis still can't vote. But we haven't heard from him yet.

No it's not. We know Lio, Sil, and Galain can't vote. All three have said so on thread ( So I am assuming they aren't lying..though why they would lie... i'm not sure). If Karosis can't vote, that would make 4 people that can't vote and I feel like it would be almost impossible to get a scum lynch as more than likely 3 of the 4 are town. (with Lio or galain being one of the equalists)

[Silanah]

Actually, when I was incapacitated, my action was said to not have gone through, and I was told I could take no ACTION or vote for anyone on day 3.

[Tennes]

Liosan said:

1356028862[/url]' post='1019786']

Osseric said:

1356025335[/url]' post='1019759']
ok, so 2 nights in a row with no equalist action. 2 nights in a row that Liosan has been incapacitated. 2 people that are adamant about not voting Liosan. He has to be Amon. (and we suspect an equalist faction of size 4-5). So Ruse, Spite, Tulas and Lio. Possibly one more?

vote Liosan


Not sure if there are even enough people who can vote to get a lynch now. But there is no way I am not voting Liosan today. Just way too much information gained by his lynch. We have to decide this or it will drag on and taint every subsequent decision in this game.

Okay, so you are assuming there has been no equalist action based solely on the Olar Ethil death scene, and then also assuming that Incapacitate not only blocks votes the next day but guards during the night as well? There are 3 other people here who can confirm for you that Incapacitate only prevents votes, and the message you get says nothing about being guarded.

But you seem pretty damn eager to ignore such common sense, jump to wild conclusions and rebuild the Lio train without allowing time for any sort of critical thinking to happen. Seems like a scummy thing to do, IMO.

Actually, Karosis said yesterday that his NA also failed, so it could well be that the vote blocking was also guarding.
In any case, we need to move on from this situation, and it's not something I feel comfortable with letting lie. There should have been a lynch yesterday, and it's very disappointing that there wasn't.
Vote Liosan

[Galain]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 December 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

14 people left, 3 who can't vote (assuming there are no more), so we need 8/11 people for a lynch and 2-3 of them are scum... We will need every inno on whatever lynch we decide (if the lynch takes down scum) or else we will end up with another no lynch. If people like Kaschan and Ampleas go another day with no participation we are screwed.

This assuming that Karosis still can't vote. But we haven't heard from him yet.

Hmm. 14 - 3 no votes = 11

11 - 2 scum who can vote = 9

9 - the one person every game who refuses to vote until it's either vote for somebody or die themselves = 8

Yeah, I'd say that lynching Amon is going to require all hands.

[Tennes]

Silanah said:

1356030971[/url]' post='1019797']
Actually, when I was incapacitated, my action was said to not have gone through, and I was told I could take no ACTION or vote for anyone on day 3.

There, as Karosis said also. So methinks Liosan is being deliberately misleading.


Edit: added 'also'.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 20 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

[Liosan]

All I got was

Path-Shaper, on 18 December 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

You have been incapacitated. You may not vote to lynch during Day 2.

Path-Shaper, on 20 December 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

You have been incapacitated. You may not vote to lynch during Day 3.

[Liosan]

FACT: Olar Ethil died night 1.

You are saying:

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I am not basing anything on the OE night scene.

So how can you say

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Fact 1: There have been no equalist NK actions for 2 nights.

with any certainty? How do you know it wasn't an equalist NK?

[Tennes]

Liosan said:

1356033784[/url]' post='1019809']
All I got was

Path-Shaper said:

1355871952[/url]']
You have been incapacitated. You may not vote to lynch during Day 2.

Path-Shaper said:

1356020289[/url]']
You have been incapacitated. You may not vote to lynch during Day 3.

GASP! Are you quoting PMs?!!!

[Tennes]

Liosan said:

1356033928[/url]' post='1019810']
FACT: Olar Ethil died night 1.

You are saying:

Osseric said:

1356030508[/url]' post='1019794']
I am not basing anything on the OE night scene.

So how can you say

Osseric said:

1356030508[/url]' post='1019794']
Fact 1: There have been no equalist NK actions for 2 nights.

with any certainty? How do you know it wasn't an equalist NK?

Ooh, I can answer this one sir! Because of the lynch scene.

[Liosan]

Tennes, on 20 December 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

GASP! Are you quoting PMs?!!!

Why not? There wasn't any rules against it posted.

[Osseric]

Liosan, on 20 December 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

FACT: Olar Ethil died night 1.

You are saying:

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I am not basing anything on the OE night scene.

So how can you say

Osseric, on 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Fact 1: There have been no equalist NK actions for 2 nights.

with any certainty? How do you know it wasn't an equalist NK?

Because PS said there were hints in the Night scenes and Olar was killed by a stray shot. I'll go pull up the scene.