[Telas]

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

This.

[Path-Shaper]

One more thing guys:

I get some PMs with pretty convoluted provisionals, like:

Battle: target X with Y, unless X is lynched, then target A.
Dusk: If Y worked on X, target X with Z, if Y failed, target A with Z, unless Y targeted A already and failed, then target C.
Night: If A was targeted with Z and succeeded, target A with B, otherwise target C, unless C is lynched, in which case target D with Q.

Now, in this case, X is still alive in the battle phase so it is kind of an illegal submission, but that aside, such a style of provisional is the only one I'll accept - the following ones are... slightly ridiculous. I really, really like straight forward actions and I'll disregard anything that mentions alternate conditions other than if X is lynched, target Y.

Please also submit all of them within the actual day timer: this time around, I got several late changes (2.5 hours past day time-out was the latest one). I know fully well I hadn't resolved by then. Still,
I have discarded these, as anything that isn't the Day phase has a duration of exactly zero minutes.

[Ruse]

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on 16 November 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

One more thing guys:

I get some PMs with pretty convoluted provisionals, like:

Battle: target X with Y, unless X is lynched, then target A.
Dusk: If Y worked on X, target X with Z, if Y failed, target A with Z, unless Y targeted A already and failed, then target C.
Night: If A was targeted with Z and succeeded, target A with B, otherwise target C, unless C is lynched, in which case target D with Q.

Now, in this case, X is still alive in the battle phase so it is kind of an illegal submission, but that aside, such a style of provisional is the only one I'll accept - the following ones are... slightly ridiculous. I really, really like straight forward actions and I'll disregard anything that mentions alternate conditions other than if X is lynched, target Y.

Please also submit all of them within the actual day timer: this time around, I got several late changes (2.5 hours past day time-out was the latest one). I know fully well I hadn't resolved by then. Still,
I have discarded these, as anything that isn't the Day phase has a duration of exactly zero minutes.

So what you are saying is that the Battle-Dusk-Night-Dawn phases go by as

1. Do Battle actions
2. Do Dusk actions
3. Do Night actions
4. Do Dawn actions
5. learn results of everything


and not

1. Do battle actions
2. learn results
3. Do dusk actions
4. learn results
etc etc


So there would be no capability to learn what happened in the Dusk phase and have different choices of Night phase plans based on the results from Dusk right?

[Atrahal]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

"Lynching Tellan" gave us no information we didn't assume already anyway. It merely confirmed what we thought we knew. Gee, I feel so relieved now.

To be fair, I'm slighlty less pissed off than I was last night when I thought lynching Emur and then Tellan today was the way to go, as he is sacrosanct again today anyway (presumably he has stayed where he was).

[Karosis]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

But we got that info about Tellan from yesterday's (non)lynch, so what's the point of doing it again?

[Atrahal]

Also, Ruse, you broke far too easily - whoever Silenced you chose well: the chatty one can't help but chat

[Ruse]

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

But we got that info about Tellan from yesterday's (non)lynch, so what's the point of doing it again?

I never said we should lynch Tellan again today after he re-sacrosancted?

[Ruse]

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Also, Ruse, you broke far too easily - whoever Silenced you chose well: the chatty one can't help but chat

You're just sad because you were catching up in posts count

[Karosis]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

But we got that info about Tellan from yesterday's (non)lynch, so what's the point of doing it again?

I never said we should lynch Tellan again today after he re-sacrosancted?

So then what's the problem with lynching Emurlahn, who has said he's gonna let himself get modkilled, so that we get a CF?

[Telas]

Vote Emurlahn

Because there is no better option IMO.
He is gonna die anyway. We better get a CF.

[Telas]

Vote Emurlahn


forgot to bold.

[Ruse]

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

But we got that info about Tellan from yesterday's (non)lynch, so what's the point of doing it again?

I never said we should lynch Tellan again today after he re-sacrosancted?

So then what's the problem with lynching Emurlahn, who has said he's gonna let himself get modkilled, so that we get a CF?

Just that it might be more useful to lynch someone who isn't going to die anyway (ie not Tellan either). Emu hasn't been present enough on thread for us to draw connections from him to anyone else so when we get his CF it'll be "Oh that's who he was but now what?".

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 16 November 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

One more thing guys:

I get some PMs with pretty convoluted provisionals, like:

Battle: target X with Y, unless X is lynched, then target A.
Dusk: If Y worked on X, target X with Z, if Y failed, target A with Z, unless Y targeted A already and failed, then target C.
Night: If A was targeted with Z and succeeded, target A with B, otherwise target C, unless C is lynched, in which case target D with Q.

Now, in this case, X is still alive in the battle phase so it is kind of an illegal submission, but that aside, such a style of provisional is the only one I'll accept - the following ones are... slightly ridiculous. I really, really like straight forward actions and I'll disregard anything that mentions alternate conditions other than if X is lynched, target Y.

Please also submit all of them within the actual day timer: this time around, I got several late changes (2.5 hours past day time-out was the latest one). I know fully well I hadn't resolved by then. Still,
I have discarded these, as anything that isn't the Day phase has a duration of exactly zero minutes.

So what you are saying is that the Battle-Dusk-Night-Dawn phases go by as

1. Do Battle actions
2. Do Dusk actions
3. Do Night actions
4. Do Dawn actions
5. learn results of everything


and not

1. Do battle actions
2. learn results
3. Do dusk actions
4. learn results
etc etc


So there would be no capability to learn what happened in the Dusk phase and have different choices of Night phase plans based on the results from Dusk right?

Yup. Essentially, they're different resolution phases, increasing the impact & amount of night actions each player has.

[Karosis]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Just that it might be more useful to lynch someone who isn't going to die anyway (ie not Tellan either). Emu hasn't been present enough on thread for us to draw connections from him to anyone else so when we get his CF it'll be "Oh that's who he was but now what?".

I'd rather get a CF on a dying player than have another player die off without giving us a CF. I'd like to know who's dying off. I say we speed lynch Emurlahn, have a quick battle/dusk/night/dawn phase, then spend the weekend doing Day 4.

vote Emurlahn

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 30 hours and 10 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Telas )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Telas]

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Is an Emu CF really all that valuable though if he's just going to get modkilled?

You're absolutely right, Ruse. Let's go lynch someone who can't be lynched again, that will be much better

Ah fuck it I'm not trying to answer this in pictures so I'll answer one of the stupid questions.

"Lynching" Tellan gave us plenty of information - we know where he was yesterday and that he can gather a bunch of Worship and that he can do it again the very next day. To me that narrows him down to very likely being a Nepeth royal family role and therefore probably the top Nepeth role. So tons of info there where instead lynching Emu will simply tell us what faction is going to be down a player (which it would be anyways) still useful info but nothing earth shattering.

But we got that info about Tellan from yesterday's (non)lynch, so what's the point of doing it again?

I never said we should lynch Tellan again today after he re-sacrosancted?

So then what's the problem with lynching Emurlahn, who has said he's gonna let himself get modkilled, so that we get a CF?

Just that it might be more useful to lynch someone who isn't going to die anyway (ie not Tellan either). Emu hasn't been present enough on thread for us to draw connections from him to anyone else so when we get his CF it'll be "Oh that's who he was but now what?".

That would be IF I knew he(anyone) was not in my faction.
When I don't know,my best chance is killing someone who is gonna die anyway.

[Telas]

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Just that it might be more useful to lynch someone who isn't going to die anyway (ie not Tellan either). Emu hasn't been present enough on thread for us to draw connections from him to anyone else so when we get his CF it'll be "Oh that's who he was but now what?".

I'd rather get a CF on a dying player than have another player die off without giving us a CF. I'd like to know who's dying off. I say we speed lynch Emurlahn, have a quick battle/dusk/night/dawn phase, then spend the weekend doing Day 4.

vote Emurlahn

Agreed.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 30 hours and 8 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Emurlahn ( Telas, Karosis )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Ruse]

Karosis, on 16 November 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Ruse, on 16 November 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Just that it might be more useful to lynch someone who isn't going to die anyway (ie not Tellan either). Emu hasn't been present enough on thread for us to draw connections from him to anyone else so when we get his CF it'll be "Oh that's who he was but now what?".

I'd rather get a CF on a dying player than have another player die off without giving us a CF. I'd like to know who's dying off. I say we speed lynch Emurlahn, have a quick battle/dusk/night/dawn phase, then spend the weekend doing Day 4.

vote Emurlahn

Hey you know me I'm ALWAYS up for a good speed lynch!