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I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:
Okay, so I understand wanting to vote Fener to see if we can get him while he is being Hadj'd, but wouldn't it be easier to try to get Spite this way, what with five people not being able to vote Fener? I will throw my vote either way, but it's gotta be a smart vote.
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:38 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
The more I thinks on that the more it doesn't make sense.
Since I can't vote for Fener,
Vote Karosis
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:38 AM
Ano checking in. The hadj is an interesting turn of events.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:40 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
Huh? Has Sacro been declared somewhere?
And yeah, the notion is that they (whoever 'they' happens to be) have not enough Worship left to throw up a Sacro after having initiated the Hadj.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:42 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:
Okay, so I understand wanting to vote Fener to see if we can get him while he is being Hadj'd, but wouldn't it be easier to try to get Spite this way, what with five people not being able to vote Fener? I will throw my vote either way, but it's gotta be a smart vote.
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
It's a good point, and I didn't really think of that. And if Spite is connected to Fener, then it's likely that Fener is also not in the mega alliance. So then I'd rather go back to someone who is almost definitely part of the big alliance (i.e. Tellan).
I dunno, Tennes coming up GoB really threw me. I'm not really sure of anyone anymore.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:44 AM
Anomandaris, on 27 November 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:
Ano checking in. The hadj is an interesting turn of events.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
You're making the big assumption that people know who people are. I was pretty certain that Tennes was not a GoB member, and look how that turned out.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:
@Fener You claim to not be the person I refer to as Sauron. And you claim that the 5 "cannot vote for Fener" messages (which are still in effect for those wanting to lynch Fener) are a frame job on you. It occurred to me a couple of days ago that you might actually be telling the truth and are restricted in some way about talking about something,
Care to comment?
Care to comment?
I don't know what to tell you. I haven't targeted anyone. I didn't get a pm telling me that some one was going to be fucking with me.
A couple of posts up you say that the people in the ND must be doing a hadj because saron(whom you think I am) was on the move. That would imply that saron is the one who started the hadj from the mirror. What makes you think that? If anything if saron really is the dark lord I would expect that it is more likely that he is the one whom seems to be chasing the mirror hadj.
You seem to be acting as though your in possession of information that the rest ( or at least several of us don't have).
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:49 AM
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:
Anomandaris, on 27 November 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:
Ano checking in. The hadj is an interesting turn of events.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
You're making the big assumption that people know who people are. I was pretty certain that Tennes was not a GoB member, and look how that turned out.
I was more making the assumption that players would make the assumption that people voting to lynch people in the mega alliance wouldnt be in the alliance.
So yeah, still assumptions
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:54 AM
Anomandaris, on 27 November 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:
Anomandaris, on 27 November 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:
Ano checking in. The hadj is an interesting turn of events.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
The Khanspiracy idea is interesting. Its possible, because even without knowing the identity of the bey, a khanate player (if they got enough worship) could really help out their team.
On the Voting scenario, while Karosis has argued that we need to kill mega alliance members, and Atrahal has said to lynch GoB members, and there are merits to both arguments, I feel like pouncing on the wounded animal is a better idea. The GoB lost a pretty powerful player and role (afaik) and so they're weak. Trying to lynch mega alliance members is less useful because it would out pretty much almost everyone not in the alliance, and the NP are assassins and in the alliance, and there's probably a Nepeth General out there as well who would attack those near fully outed non alliance members. It seems better for all to lynch GoB players. Whether that will be Ruse or Karosis is unclear in my mind.
You're making the big assumption that people know who people are. I was pretty certain that Tennes was not a GoB member, and look how that turned out.
I was more making the assumption that players would make the assumption that people voting to lynch people in the mega alliance wouldnt be in the alliance.
So yeah, still assumptions
I suppose it's a good point. Depending on who Bru and Bent ended up being, it's likely that the mega alliance has the bigger numbers. So, going back to that, then it's better for me to go after people not in the alliance, who I don't think are connected to me. Then I at least have a chance of hitting someone in the alliance. So that brings me back to Spite and Fener.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:
Okay, so I understand wanting to vote Fener to see if we can get him while he is being Hadj'd, but wouldn't it be easier to try to get Spite this way, what with five people not being able to vote Fener? I will throw my vote either way, but it's gotta be a smart vote.
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
It's a good point, and I didn't really think of that. And if Spite is connected to Fener, then it's likely that Fener is also not in the mega alliance. So then I'd rather go back to someone who is almost definitely part of the big alliance (i.e. Tellan).
I dunno, Tennes coming up GoB really threw me. I'm not really sure of anyone anymore.
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:01 AM
Fener, on 27 November 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:
@Fener You claim to not be the person I refer to as Sauron. And you claim that the 5 "cannot vote for Fener" messages (which are still in effect for those wanting to lynch Fener) are a frame job on you. It occurred to me a couple of days ago that you might actually be telling the truth and are restricted in some way about talking about something,
Care to comment?
Care to comment?
I don't know what to tell you. I haven't targeted anyone. I didn't get a pm telling me that some one was going to be fucking with me.
A couple of posts up you say that the people in the ND must be doing a hadj because saron(whom you think I am) was on the move. That would imply that saron is the one who started the hadj from the mirror. What makes you think that? If anything if saron really is the dark lord I would expect that it is more likely that he is the one whom seems to be chasing the mirror hadj.
You seem to be acting as though your in possession of information that the rest ( or at least several of us don't have).
Yes, you are right in that. The 2nd hadj happened while I was typing up the post about the first one.
As for info that I may or may not have? I'm trying to give you a way to explain why and how somebody would frame you for the 5 PMs that were sent saying that we couldn't do diddly against you without paying 3 worship in dawn phase. Whoever did that is pretty fucking scary. And you have said nothing that would indicate that it wasn't you. Other than "it wasn't me". So, yeah, you're at the top of my list of "people who need to go away". Also at the top of "people I really hope are in my faction since I can't do anything to them".
I'm going to keep my vote on Karosis. But I urge those who can to vote for Fener: he's scary, he seems to have a bountiful supply of worship, and it would be sorta cool to see which tile the sacro goes on. Hadj #1 is on the RtI and #2 is on the Mirror for this phase, correct? Is he the stalker or the stalkee?
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:05 AM
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:
Okay, so I understand wanting to vote Fener to see if we can get him while he is being Hadj'd, but wouldn't it be easier to try to get Spite this way, what with five people not being able to vote Fener? I will throw my vote either way, but it's gotta be a smart vote.
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
It's a good point, and I didn't really think of that. And if Spite is connected to Fener, then it's likely that Fener is also not in the mega alliance. So then I'd rather go back to someone who is almost definitely part of the big alliance (i.e. Tellan).
I dunno, Tennes coming up GoB really threw me. I'm not really sure of anyone anymore.
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
Yes, well, one bad CF isn't going to automatically stop me from playing the game and trying to deduce where people are. I am pretty sure that I am not the only one that was completely thrown by the Tennes CF.
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Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
Karosis sure makes a good target of his/her self. Wonder why that is?
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:07 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
Karosis sure makes a good target of his/her self. Wonder why that is?
Hmmmmm, I wonder....
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:07 AM
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:
Okay, so I understand wanting to vote Fener to see if we can get him while he is being Hadj'd, but wouldn't it be easier to try to get Spite this way, what with five people not being able to vote Fener? I will throw my vote either way, but it's gotta be a smart vote.
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
I think the notion is that because of the Hadj Fener can't throw up Sacrosanct, so it provides plenty of time for other players who don't HAVE to pay to vote him to do so.
I don't see why somebody on the hadj can't throw up sacro unless they are out of worship. Sacro is only effective during day phase and they know where they are right now. It would be nice to see which tile Sacro went up on; it might indicate who is chasing whom.
Karosis, if you and Spite both want to vote for people in "the big alliance" why are you apparently so eager to vote Spite? According to you both you are not in "the big alliance", so that makes you both potentially allies when somebody gets around to proposing another alliance.
It's a good point, and I didn't really think of that. And if Spite is connected to Fener, then it's likely that Fener is also not in the mega alliance. So then I'd rather go back to someone who is almost definitely part of the big alliance (i.e. Tellan).
I dunno, Tennes coming up GoB really threw me. I'm not really sure of anyone anymore.
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
Yes, well, one bad CF isn't going to automatically stop me from playing the game and trying to deduce where people are. I am pretty sure that I am not the only one that was completely thrown by the Tennes CF.
Yes, see, trying to imply faction from original location will lead to all sorts of buggery like that. For all I know, Tennes was actually deflecting from me so he could steal from me every fucking night.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:08 AM
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:
Fener, on 27 November 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:
@Fener You claim to not be the person I refer to as Sauron. And you claim that the 5 "cannot vote for Fener" messages (which are still in effect for those wanting to lynch Fener) are a frame job on you. It occurred to me a couple of days ago that you might actually be telling the truth and are restricted in some way about talking about something,
Care to comment?
Care to comment?
I don't know what to tell you. I haven't targeted anyone. I didn't get a pm telling me that some one was going to be fucking with me.
A couple of posts up you say that the people in the ND must be doing a hadj because saron(whom you think I am) was on the move. That would imply that saron is the one who started the hadj from the mirror. What makes you think that? If anything if saron really is the dark lord I would expect that it is more likely that he is the one whom seems to be chasing the mirror hadj.
You seem to be acting as though your in possession of information that the rest ( or at least several of us don't have).
Yes, you are right in that. The 2nd hadj happened while I was typing up the post about the first one.
As for info that I may or may not have? I'm trying to give you a way to explain why and how somebody would frame you for the 5 PMs that were sent saying that we couldn't do diddly against you without paying 3 worship in dawn phase. Whoever did that is pretty fucking scary. And you have said nothing that would indicate that it wasn't you. Other than "it wasn't me". So, yeah, you're at the top of my list of "people who need to go away". Also at the top of "people I really hope are in my faction since I can't do anything to them".
I'm going to keep my vote on Karosis. But I urge those who can to vote for Fener: he's scary, he seems to have a bountiful supply of worship, and it would be sorta cool to see which tile the sacro goes on. Hadj #1 is on the RtI and #2 is on the Mirror for this phase, correct? Is he the stalker or the stalkee?
Hold on.
This paying of 3 Worship. Does it actually say 'pay 3 Worship to Fener'? Or even pay 3 Worship to anyone at all?
Or does it just say you must pay 3 Worship? As in, they go into the ether.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:08 AM
Karosis, on 27 November 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:
Emurlahn, on 27 November 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:
Tellan, on 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:
You shitting me, Clark?
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
You just admitted you ain't got a fucking clue.
But, aha!
We'll simply disregard that you've outed your faction that is ripe for culture hunt and go for someone we once again have no clue whose faction they are!
Karosis sure makes a good target of his/her self. Wonder why that is?
Hmmmmm, I wonder....
Qadi of Trickery, Djinn of Cruel Jests, a Joker who insta wins on lynch!
