[Tattersail_]

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

didn't answer this one.

liz?

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hey hey, another question, just want to clear something up:

If I don't jump, but another FM jumps into my alt (is that even possible, or can we only jump into townies?), do I die and they take over, or do we share this alt?

Basically, can sharing only happen if two FMs jump into the same alt, or can sharing happen if one FM jumps into another FM's alt?

They die if someone jumps into them and they aren't leaving the same night.

That is, I mean, Are you sure? It is not like he is jumping out of me is it? I thought i'd only die if someone occupied me and then left with me staying. Not fair!

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

15 FM's? Holy Fuck!! So I had to jump or die basically.

You could have gotten lucky as well, like Starling and GH did.

[Shinrei]

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

didn't answer this one.

liz?

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hey hey, another question, just want to clear something up:

If I don't jump, but another FM jumps into my alt (is that even possible, or can we only jump into townies?), do I die and they take over, or do we share this alt?

Basically, can sharing only happen if two FMs jump into the same alt, or can sharing happen if one FM jumps into another FM's alt?

They die if someone jumps into them and they aren't leaving the same night.

That is, I mean, Are you sure? It is not like he is jumping out of me is it? I thought i'd only die if someone occupied me and then left with me staying. Not fair!

True, but the normal FM mechanics are still in play, so if someone jumps into you, you die.

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

Mine to. I was hoping to stay most of the game as Olar until either someone jumped into me or I felt threatened!

[Tattersail_]

Path-Shaper, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

didn't answer this one.

liz?

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hey hey, another question, just want to clear something up:

If I don't jump, but another FM jumps into my alt (is that even possible, or can we only jump into townies?), do I die and they take over, or do we share this alt?

Basically, can sharing only happen if two FMs jump into the same alt, or can sharing happen if one FM jumps into another FM's alt?

They die if someone jumps into them and they aren't leaving the same night.

That is, I mean, Are you sure? It is not like he is jumping out of me is it? I thought i'd only die if someone occupied me and then left with me staying. Not fair!

True, but the normal FM mechanics are still in play, so if someone jumps into you, you die.

Damn!!!!!!!!! I thought I was smart. Well I hope an FM wins

[Shinrei]

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

Mine to. I was hoping to stay most of the game as Olar until either someone jumped into me or I felt threatened!

And here I saved your ass from lynch and everything!

[Path-Shaper]

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

That's ok, I don't think I have ever been on someones list before.

I tried to lie as little as possible. You, Tatts and Azath were unlucky. There where 8 alts that were not targeted for jumps.

[Shinrei]

It just seems so mean - every conversation on thread has no meaning whatsoever....

FM hunting isn't possible, either, not really.

I think the drawback of a game like this (where the twist is so huge) is that it has little option except to be decided by luck, not by any sort of skill.

[Path-Shaper]

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

It just seems so mean - every conversation on thread has no meaning whatsoever....

FM hunting isn't possible, either, not really.

I think the drawback of a game like this (where the twist is so huge) is that it has little option except to be decided by luck, not by any sort of skill.

I appreciate the feedback.

Yes, it is more based on luck than a normal game. The most important skill it takes is to wiggle out of lynches.
I was trying out what would happen if you gave everyone the same role in a mafia game and the only role that really works for that is the FM imho.

[Shinrei]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with this game, I'm just gritting my teeth over dying early AGAIN.

[Path-Shaper]

PMs from day one:

Blend:

Telas, on 22 October 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Woo, I have been getting all kinds of sweet roles lately!!! : ) Am super excited to try my hand at a Faceless Man! Interesting that there is more than one, should be a neat game.

Telas, on 23 October 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

K provisional jump into Olar. If he gets lynched, jump into Atrahal.

Azath:

Spite, on 22 October 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Nice to be back in this old alt. last time i was batman. FMing should be difficult. Townll be looking for posting changes.
Ill need to jump into lower posting players.

Spite, on 23 October 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

Can i choose not to junp? I will today but for reference

Yes, you can choose not to jump.

Spite, on 23 October 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Provisional: jump into osseric

Gnaw:

Sorrit, on 23 October 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

Initial thoughts
Now that is very cool indeed. Cummings appears to have been a remarkable personality.

Heh, I didn't know that the assassinations on Bloody Sunday actually occurred. I knew that the football game was machine gunned, but thought that the assassins were overdone to heighten the drama of the film. (Liam Neeson's "Michael Collins").
I knew who Walshingham and Wolf were but had never heard of Kao. And all I knew of Cummings was that the found of MI6 had the last initial C, from which came Fleming's M
TDMI 7+. And given that Shin's game was 3 FMs, I'm going to assume that there is more to this than 3 or 4 FMs and townies. I can't see y'all just slavishly following one game with the same basic format.

Suppositions
Hmmm

Olar Ethil, on 22 October 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

Round a round the color bowl 1, 2, 3 if you have a favorite color please tell me?

OE looks to be a candidate for Walshingham. Thin, but it's one hour into day 1.…
Now, having seen Meanas and Atrahal point out how clever OE is, I'm going to give more weight to the "OE is FM and probably Walshingham" hypothesis.

Mechanics:
Pretty straight but did see one question. 2 FMs jump into a 3rd person; they have to "share" for the day. Assume, night 1 and I choose NOT to jump. If another FM jumps to me, do I go away or do we share?

Sorrit, on 23 October 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

Galain, on 22 October 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

i was just thinking, what if oe's stuff is a combination of signaling (to who i'm not sure) and protecting himself from the fms. it'd be hard to follow that act.

This. The second part anyway. It's pretty obvious what Olar is doing - trying to act in a way which would be hard for an FM to copy, and therefore make himself unpalatable Pretty clever really, and something I suggest we all do.
There is also the suspicion that he might be an FM himself, trying to look like a townie trying to make themselves unpalatable to an FM, and so therefore we all ignore him. And then he wins. Damn cunning son of a bitch

Shit, fuck, dammit all. Sumbitches. And I thought it was going to be difficult to keep them from alting me as Gnaw. Now I have to add in everybody else being silly.
I wonder if I could pull off faking myself? Obdigore caught me because I used bullet points when nobody else uses them.
For now I'm just going to be a no-poster for the first 20 hours or so.

In the meantime, I will attempt to guess what other roles might be in play here. And maybe throw out a little red meat. One post then disappear. Let the others do the guesstimating for me? Hmmm
Something along the lines of "you fucktards really think liz is gonna run a tdmi7 game with three fm and eleven townies right after a game with three fms and three factions? has to be more to it than that."
Of course that will get me jumped on too. Think I'll save it for a few hours.
OE. Smart and silly. Bliss, Khell, eh. Just don't know anyone well enough to try guessing who is who.

If another FM jumps you while you don't you die.

Sorrit, on 23 October 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Keep us hpping huh?

Gnaw, if I though you would not be up for this role I wouldn't have given it to you, so please start playing for real.

Sorrit, on 23 October 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

Yes ma'am. I am. I intentionally didn't post early on.
One of my noticeable flaws is I talk too much. Way too much.
That will get me killed quickly. So I'm going to try doing what Sixty did in the Senguko 3 game. Ask questions without actually giving out info.
And my fucking iPad outed me to anyone who bothers going back to look at the Sen3 game. Quote headers somehow get fucked up. Happens ever since iOS 6.

Meanas is BlendOE is US and political. Have to go check the election thread and cross reference the sign up sheet. I'm going to try to be subtle about it, but I want to see OE lynched today.

Sorrit, on 22 October 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Gawd I really don't want to write this. Further, I'm not certain how to do it without making it look as if I'm trying to weasel more info out of you.

You assign roles randomly correct?
You made public the "identities" of 3 spymasters.
Markus Wolf, STASI
Rameshwar Nath Kao, RAW (Modern India)
Walshingham, QE I's spymaster

Then there is my Role PM

Cummings, Founder of MI6

I am assuming that that means the "Cummings" role is different in some ways than the others. Which may or may not make it a special one.

I have played 1 game and did scut work for JLV in 1 other. Shimrei's Senguko 3 game would have been very different if I had not been playing an assassin.
If you would prefer that this role go to a more experienced player, I will (un)happily let you give it to them and then stay off their alt until it can be modkilled for inactivity. I would rather do that than fuck up a game for 13 other people with my newbishness.

Awe what a cute little guy.

You'll be just fine toots.

-JLV

Sorrit, on 23 October 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

3 posts now ma'am. Will get a few more after I do a little thinking about it.
No replies expected for the following, just thinking out loud.
3 noted spymasters in the game thread. "I" am a noted one but not listed.
So are the three red herrings or actually in the game?
My first thought was that I was "the boss" but Cummings died before Wolf and Koa were out of childhood.
However, your use of four historical characters implies that we won't be running into any fictional spies. I know, I'm assuming……

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

Mine to. I was hoping to stay most of the game as Olar until either someone jumped into me or I felt threatened!

And here I saved your ass from lynch and everything!

Any day one lynch would have been right

Thanks buddy

[HiddenOne]

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

Mine to. I was hoping to stay most of the game as Olar until either someone jumped into me or I felt threatened!

And here I saved your ass from lynch and everything!

I think I saved him the most, as an excellent substitiute

[Path-Shaper]

Venge:

Path-Shaper, on 23 October 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Fener, on 23 October 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I am already starting to regret signing up.

Why?

Fener, on 23 October 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

So much bad poetry...

Also I would like to jump into Korv tonight.

True that, I was half tempted to make bad poetry a modkillable offence, but that would take part of the day one shenanigans away. I just hope it dies down day 2.

Provisional noted.

Fener, on 23 October 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Also do I know if I am sharing an alt?

I wont tell you whether or not you share an alt, so you have to figure that out on your own.

Fener, on 23 October 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

Change my jump to Osseric

ok

Khell:

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

This is going to be madness.

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

I realise the game hasn't even started yet, so sorry for hassling you with questions already(!), but...

If two (or more???) people end up sharing alts, can they off-thread communicate with each other?

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 22 October 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

They can talk inside the conversation with PS, so yes they can.
I wouldn't know how to control that otherwise.

You could set up multiple convos with PS, and then have them Scouts' honour pinkie swear not to open any convos which are not theirs - but it'll be far more interesting this way

hehe, problem is that I do not trust mafia players, so it's better to make it part of the game right away.

Atrahal, on 22 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hey hey, another question, just want to clear something up:

If I don't jump, but another FM jumps into my alt (is that even possible, or can we only jump into townies?), do I die and they take over, or do we share this alt?

Basically, can sharing only happen if two FMs jump into the same alt, or can sharing happen if one FM jumps into another FM's alt?

If someone else jumps into you, you die. The sharing can only happen if two FMs jump into the same alt.

Atrahal, on 23 October 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Bah, you really want is to jump, don't you? I was tempted to try not jumping and play townie all game

Atrahal, on 23 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

I accept the challenge - Jump into Olar Ethil. If Olar Ethil is lynched, jump into Telas.

noted

Atrahal, on 23 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

They're silly to lynch Olar. Unless of course he does end up being an FM, then I'm silly. But I think they're silly. Very silly. Silly silly silly.

Change jump to Meanas, if Meanas lynched jump into Sorrit.

The Dude:

Emurlahn, on 22 October 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

Holy Cow, 3+ years of Mafia and I have never had a FM role before. I am excited!!! Looks like there is another 1-2 FM's... that's scary..I like the double Jump mechanic, though why someone wouldn't jump if double occupied is beyond me. hmmmmmmm So many possibilities My main challenge will be posting times.. I am pretty set in my times I can post. Let's hope there are a lot of NA players.

Emurlahn, on 22 October 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Oh wow.. just read the OP... so lots of FM's... the plot thickens!!!

Emurlahn, on 24 October 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

Provisional

Jump into Atrahal

Shin:

Meanas, on 23 October 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

I am considering not jumping at all. I think hinting heavily on thread about who I am (and in effect my lousy timezone), and posting all day (Japan time) will make FMs think twice about choosing me, and if I remain a ROCK in my current alt, town may trust that I am not an FM. And how epic would that be, to win as an FM without ever having jumped!

Its risky, but my timezone is going to make jumping about a real difficulty for me. I love mafia, but I aint waking up at 3am just to appear believable as someone else.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:

Spite and Sorrit are my guesses for other FMs.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

Provisional

Take no action


Maybe some will see this as a waste of a role or me being lazy, but depending on the number of FMs, this is a fair strategy IMO. If there are a crazy amount of FMs, then this is really a stupid thing to do, but hey, I gotta take a chance one way or the other.

[Tattersail_]

I should have asked the question Gnaw did. I would have certainly jumped then!

[HiddenOne]

I've never gotten jumped on so bad before for the drive by vote

[Tattersail_]

HiddenOne, on 24 October 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 24 October 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 24 October 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Liz is on my list.

Sigh... excellent twist and lying to all of us was the only way to set it up.

I guess I'm just pissed because I thought my strategy was valid (if there were in fact a town faction).

Mine to. I was hoping to stay most of the game as Olar until either someone jumped into me or I felt threatened!

And here I saved your ass from lynch and everything!

I think I saved him the most, as an excellent substitiute

I feel loved

[Tattersail_]

HiddenOne, on 24 October 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

I've never gotten jumped on so bad before for the drive by vote

Was you Tulas

[Tattersail_]

No matter what game we play Bliss and I always find each other