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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

Go to bed. No sense waiting up to see if we're dead.


Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

Hmmm. Diminishing returns could actually back up the reveal. Imply, but not say it was only good for 2 nights?



Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

Ok, last thing:

If Meanas or Galain are alive tomorrow - use your idea.

If not - use mine, as yours will no longer work.


Coolsville, see you on the flip side :cry:


Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

G'night


Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 04:16 AM, said:

Screw this. See you later today.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:55 PM

Day three:

Blissy and the Dude:

Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Provisional
LiosanTelas


noted


Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

I'm following you... I'd like to go to Liosan too! (this is the other galain.) is that how this works? or do I have to jump to a different alt?

I think we can both win this if we jump to the same alt. No one is going to jump into either atrahal or galain. Those alts will die. Leaving Telas or liosan. obviously its a stalemate if 2 alts are alive.


Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

So, based on that logic:

Provisional: Jump to Liosan (this is the Galain 2)


Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

You can jump into different alts if you want.


Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

sneaky other Galain! I didn't even know you were there!


Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

sneaky other Galain! I didn't even know you were there!


Well, i didnt want you to know i was here till the votes. less chance to mess up on thread. way to swing the thread onto spite... i was a little worried.


Galain, on 25 October 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

Actually, lets think this through. there are 6 ppl alive for 4 alts. meaning 2 alts with double people. if you and I decide to go to the same alt as the other 2 person alt... we might be left high and dry. wonder if we do some on thread coordination. if we could get 3 people in 2 alts each and be at a stale mate.... 6 people win.


or

just take our chances that night was so fast some FM didn't get their provisionals in and they die, leaving us to vote off someone tomorrow.


probably option 2 is better in that it means i don't have to rely on trusting any of you dirty FM's to keep your word.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:58 PM

Khell, Gnaw and Roldom:

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

WHOEVER ELSE IS HERE, NO POSTING. I AM THE ORIGINAL ATRAHAL.

Sorrit, I know you're here. This is in case we have a third member.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Jump into Spite. If lynched, jump into Telas.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

The above provisional is from original Atrahal.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

hello
I was originally osseric, then became spite so spite is a defo FM, gailain revealed but so did altahal so we cant use the galain is obviously a fm line

what we can use is the idea that with the reveal fest, and 3 members revealing then they will all be crowded into a smaller group of alts, and that yes altrahal is an fm, but only one person was daft enough to get caught by alts reveal, everyone else changed there provisional and jumped into spite.

Killing altrahal kills one fm, killing spite kills at least one, if not more

i think its probable everyone here is an FM, so its not a case of voting of the FM's its a case of voting of the alts with the most players playing them.

Im fine with you doing the posting but keep checking the messages! Im going to be able to keep a close eye on the thread for the next 10 hours

Roldom


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Yep, sorrit and I worked all that out back when we were Meanas yesterday. I'm starting off with the Galain vote because it will be important to start a train quickly.

Then, if people challenge us, we can start talking about number of alts.

And we KNEW you were Osseric before, the way you stacked him :p


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

Btw, the changing alts provisional line won't work, as alts reveals happened after night timeout.

We thought we might say that we're the Atrahal from last night, and we did that in order to draw out FMs, and it worked.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

who ever was atrahal last nights a dick lol

The only worry I have is that if galain turns up, he is going to vote for us and then its a coin flip for the rest of town, who ever votes third will choose the target

If we vote for spite, then galain has to vote with us, he would be mad not to, then we just need to convince one other person to join us

it was pretty obvious yesterday I was a FM, who jumped from osseric into spite, if i was an fm yesterday then i must still be one today


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

So you think propose an alliance with Galain.

Well, why not do both? I'll say to Spite and Galain, I'm willing to work with either. If Spite comes on and votes G, that's fine. If G comes and votes Spite, I switch.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

Telas has just voted Galain. I'm going to keep quiet for a bit, hopefully a third will just pile on.

By the way, Osseric-Spite-Atrahal, are you sticking with us or going your seperate way, should we make it out of here?


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

Original Atrahal says:

Change provisional jump to Jump to Liosan, if lynched jump to Telas.

One thing I've learned from this - never return to the scene of a former crime :D


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

I'll tag along unless u think we should try to split to get the vote and ten all jump back together 2mo night


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

I'll tag along unless u think we should try to split to get the vote and ten all jump back together 2mo night



That's an interesting thought. The problem is that if you end up with someone else in the alt you jump into. What if they then want to tag along with you? I don't think we can have more than 3 in one alt.

On the other hand, if us three all split, we could definitely command the votes next round. Let's think about it.

If we survive, we'll have 4 hours of night to discuss it.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

there was 15 players, 10 have died but only 4 have been named, if everyone started of as an FM like I think then theres 11 players left, after today if we lynch galain then we go down to four alts and a maximum of ten players left

Altrahal has a target on his head but by 2mo it wont matter as everyone is an FM, if we dont control the vote we will die

what would happen if two of us left this alt and then a fourth fm jumped in, what would happen to the FM that stayed in this alt? would he just get shared control or would he die?


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

He would die. We all have to jump. Basically, if we split, we're almost guaranteed to be sharing with someone else. It would mean overriding their wishes and quickly getting done what we want.

On the plus side it would be really funny to see an alt arguing with itself :cry:


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

There have been 6 named dead players, meaning max 9FMs now (if everyone was an fm to begin with, still not guaranteed).


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Shall I purpose an alliance to galain, or shall I wait?

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:01 PM

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

it depends on concinving liosan to join us voting for spite, and we risk lio and galin and spite teaming up on us :cry:


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

post a case! say that you were spite before, and before that osseric, and that at least one fm if not more have jumped into spite! that because of atrahal only you were stupid enough to jump here and that with the limited amount of targets in lio spite and the other one that theres a good chance more of the fms jumped into spite!



Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

I was spite last night, the night before I was osseric, which is why I made that case against osseric yesterday

with everyone revealing last night, it meant three FM's jumped into the three alts that are left, telas, lio or spite

now theres no way of knowing where everyone jumped into, but whats the chance that they all ended up in different alts?

we know for a fact that spite is an fm, if you hit me or galain u kill one fm, If you hit spite you kill at least 1 FM if not more


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

I won't be able to post for about twenty minutes. Hold the fort!


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

are we sticking together or changing alts? if we split, jump into 2 diff alts, vote night and then jump in the third alt? Im expecting 2 alts at least to die tonight


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

See what comes of spite's Cf. I'll reply in detail in a few minutes, let me set up my computer.



Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

i cant see anyone jumping into galain, or atrahl for that matter, so that leaves liosan and telas, both are going to be over crowded...
depends on how many fms we kill in spite



Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Remove provional

we are all here to talk about it and make sure we make the right choice


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Who's provisional are you removing? I'm the only one who has posted one. Until all the of us do, nothing will happen :p


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

lol nevermind then

Whats our plan of attack then? or are we just waiting on ps to check up?


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Argh, sorry for the slow replies, can't get the wi-fi to work so still on my phone.

I suggest we sign off messages with our original alt name so we don't get confused.

I think all 3 of us should split into different alts, to avoid the single person saying they know an alt with 2fms in it.

But what exactly will do should depend on how many alts there were in spite.

- atrahal


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

if we split into three then we risk not all being able to reform up and win


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Yes you're right, it won't work. Even if four alts are around tomorrow, once we lunch the one we're not in, we can't all rejoin. Hmm.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

we need to, lynch one and jump into the other, but then its 3 players left... first to get voted for loses


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Hypothetical example.what if:

2 of us jump into liosan, one into telas.

Atrahal is lynched.

Instead of rejoining, 2 in liosan jump into telas, the one in telas jumps into galain.

We lynch liosan (if still alive).

Then there's two alts left and we share the win because that would be a draw?

- atrahal


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

I expect telas and lio to be pretty full 2mo...
Osseric


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

It may be that they're all piled in there now and will have to get out.

The spread, if we're all fms, is: 3, 2, 2, 1, 1 OR 3, 3, 1, 1, 1.

We may know better after spite's CF.

Anyway, the alts I used were examples, we can use other ones. It's more about the plan of keeping one of usa away from the other two.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

I would suggest that one risks staying behind in atrahal, but the others jumping away automatically kill that person :D

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

Wouldn't it be easier to just download HTML pages and upload them here?
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:04 PM

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

The first plan could work actually, if we don't worry about rejoining. We can still all win.

Us 3 all jump to different alts.

Atrahal is lynched (will anyone jump into atrahal?)

2 of us jump into the same alt, the other into a different one. We either lynch the remaining alt, or it's already dead through abandonment. Then there's only two alts left and it's a draw.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Another argument for all three of us splitting is that there's less chance of one of us being bumped out due to a full alt.

You two have left your provisionals pretty late, it could be that everyone else has theirs in already.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Finally, a real live computer!!

Now, what I wanted to say ages ago: Phew! Glad we dodged that bullet, I thought it was going to be really tough staying alive after former Atrahal did that little reveal :p


Anyway: Let's wait till we get Spite's CF.

But you too may want to put in some provisionals now. Just make sure you state they're provisionals, and NOT confirmations. And where is Sorrit, goddamn him! :D


- Atrahal


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Hah, I'm betting Gusty was former Atrahal who did that :p

Ok, so we know there was (unfortunately) only 1 FM in Spite.

So we still have either 3, 2, 2, 1, OR 3, 3, 1, 1 distribution in the other alts.

What do you think about that post by Liosan, where he says he'll come back to work out which of the alts has multiple FMs in it - do you think he's being sincere, or distancing himself from the fact that HE has multiple alts within him?



Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Sigh, regardless, this is my vote for the plan:

I jump into Liosan as I already have my provisional there.

Osseric, you jump into Galain or Telas.

Sorrit, you jump into the one that Osseric doesn't choose.

WE IMMEDIATELY PUT IN OUR PROVISIONALS AS SOON AS WE GET OUR NEW ALTS!

My provisional will be jump into Telas.

Osseric, Sorrit, you put in provisionals asking to jump into Liosan.

Then we vote to lynch Atrahal. Ignore or fight the other people in your alt.

If Atrahal is already dead, then this plan is fucked and it's every man for himself (with your new teammates, of course). If not, then it's all good.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

We would have to try and get in as quick as possible, because I doubt very much we're the only ones scheming.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Provisional jump to galain

ORIGINALLY OSSERIC





Are we in accord then?

- Atrahal


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

If atrahal is dead, then we vote for galain then jump to telas


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

scrap that lol thats suicide

we vote for lio and then its everyone for themselves


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

If atrahal is dead, then we vote for galain then jump to telas


But...won't you be in Galain? We won't know if Atrahal is dead until after night.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

scrap that lol thats suicide

we vote for lio and then its everyone for themselves




Lol. I won't be voting for Lio since I'll be in there :p But yes, everyone for themselves if Atra is dead.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Damn. Just got here. That was quick work.


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Good work.

So, we all got the plan?

Sorrit, Osseric, you say you will jump into Liosan AS SOON AS you get into your new alts.

I will say I will jump into Telas.

Then we all vote Atrahal on thread.

If Atrahal is dead already - then good night, and good luck :cry:


- Atrahal

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Atrahal said:

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It may be that they're all piled in there now and will have to get out.

The spread, if we're all fms, is: 3, 2, 2, 1, 1 OR 3, 3, 1, 1, 1.

We may know better after spite's CF.

Anyway, the alts I used were examples, we can use other ones. It's more about the plan of keeping one of usa away from the other two.


7 names from sign up list are not accounted for: 5 lynched and 3 NKs.
4 alts. Atrahal has 3 of course. That leaves 4 names spread across 3 alts.

Edit: Sorrit


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Those 3 night NKs still bother me.

I cna't think of a thing that explains them.

What do you think of the idea that Liosan and/or Telas and/or Galain is town. And shielded. It could only be two of the three, because we know there are 2 players in 1 of them.

Atrahal1.0 and I chose high posters. That's how we ended up in Meanas.

What if those 3 NKs went after a low poster?

Here's what I propose: Roldom has named himself and was not struck down by the gods high or low. I am Gnaw.

If night resolves with Gnaw is dead, you'll know something is shady with Telas. Lynch the bastard.

If Roldom is dead, lynch Galain.

If we all make it then lynch Atrahal. If Atrahal is dead, free for all.


Edit. Sorrit


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Fuck, you're right about the numbers, I completely forgot to count the lynched people! Stupid!


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

I'm Khell by the way :cry:

- Atrahal


Atrahal, on 25 October 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

Nice to meet ya. I thought you were maybe Bliss.

If night resolves with Gnaw is dead, you'll know something is shady with Telas. Lynch the bastard.
If Roldom is dead, lynch Galain.
If Khell is dead, lynch Liosan.
If we all make it then lynch Atrahal. If Atrahal is dead, free for all.
--Sorrit

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostEmperorMagus, on 26 October 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be easier to just download HTML pages and upload them here?


Maybe. Anyway, I'm done, so it doesn't matter anymore.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:20 PM

Post-game dedication - nice!

I've already given out all my rep for the day, so have some kudos :cry:

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:56 AM

oh my gawd. I talk waaaaaaaaaaaaayy too much.
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