[Khellendros]

Just read all of Insultfest

IT'S ALL CAPS LOCK NOW FUCKFACE!!! was priceless

[Gnaw]

Khellendros, on 25 October 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 25 October 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

I still don't understand how 3 FM died on night 1

Tattersail died because he didn't jump and someone jumped into him. Did the same happen to Shin?

Khellendros, on 25 October 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

The Dude, on 25 October 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Dammit... beat by the random number generator... oh well. Good game all. I figured it out after day one... it was fun seeing everyone sidestep the issue. Thought it was funny Meanas and galain piggybacked my idea of revealing right before night timeout. I wanted to wait till the last possible minute... but PS wasn't around. It worked out well anyway. Fun times.

I (Meanas) had to do that, because I was jumping into Atrahal, you jackass!

Yes, Shin and Tatts chose not to jump and got kicked out of their alts. Azath died because he bounced off Osseric but somebody had already jumped into his.

TheDude had us panicking for certain. In all of Khell's gushing he left out the part about yelling at me for hammering Osseric. And the fact that that was about the only comstructive thing I did the rest of the game. Kudos to Khell and insincerest apologies to Roldom.
I would also like to point out that nobody ever defended Australia from the "where men are men and sheep are nervous" accusation.
Khell: that "catch you on the flip side" thing? Seriously? I'm old but not that........counting fingers and toes. Twice around. Bah, I guess I am that old dammit.

Edit. spelling error

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 25 October 2012 - 09:26 PM

[Gust Hubb]

what's wrong with the flip side?

[Lizradusa]

Khellendros, on 25 October 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Great game everyone, very fun setup!


I'm shocked, saddened, and dismayed to see that Gnaw's and mine's master plan has not been laid out in detail in SH (probably for the best, as it involved a lot of extremely bad maths).

The rest of the PMs will be posted once I get around to it, most likely this evening.

Khellendros, on 25 October 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

One thing, though: All that time spent trying to make sure I was first in line to jump, worrying if I hadn't put in my night action in time, because I assumed it was on a first come, first serve basis, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY DECIDED BY RANDOM.ORG?!?!?!?!!!!!!!

We didn't want to make it first come first serve, because of timezones.

Gust Hubb, on 25 October 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

I still don't understand how 3 FM died on night 1

They were jumped into by other FM. Tatts and Shin because they decided not to move and Azath because he failed to move.

[Tattersail_]

I should have asked about the FM jumping into me whilst I was still there. I thought that because I was an FM it didn't matter. I even PM'd you somewhere saying that if someone jumps into me then i'll decide to move. My whole strategy was based on keeping the same alt for as long as possible but it also did not take into consideration that everyone was an FM

I loved this game. Put a lot of effort in early on too.

Congrats to the winners, incidentally the ones that asked about the FM jumping into them whilst they occupied the alt.

Rep coming!

[Roldom]

your appoligies will not stop me from my revenge! lol

no worries, all is fair in love and mafia, but why did atrahal die on the last night? didnt somebody try to jump into him?

[Khellendros]

Roldom, on 26 October 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

your appoligies will not stop me from my revenge! lol

no worries, all is fair in love and mafia, but why did atrahal die on the last night? didnt somebody try to jump into him?

No, the alt was abandoned. The dude tried to jump from galain to liosan but failed (and then you killed him by jumping into galain). Liz just cf'd him as atrahal for the sake of convenience.

[Path-Shaper]

As promised, here are some more PMs.

From day three:
Bliss:

Telas, on 24 October 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

Huzzah! 4 FMs down by my guess. I wonder how many of us there are...

provisional:

Galain
Olar
Liosan

noted

Telas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Why did you smile? You know something I don't! You're LAUGHING AT ME AREN'T YOU?! I BET YOU ARE EVEN PLOTTING AGAINST ME! YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE IN SPOILER HEAVEN!!!

Telas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Meh. The last Telas didn't start posting until late in the afternoon... I hate waiting to post. I need to hop into someone more talkative for the next one.

Path-Shaper, on 24 October 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

I smiled because I'm happy with the world right now. There are no conspirations against you in play. I promise.

Telas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

That's exactly the sort of thing a double-agent WOULD say...

GH:

Galain, on 24 October 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Um. wow. That was an intense and bloody night. So, I'm starting to wonder, are well all FM?

And I also am curious why my jump failed... if I'm being guarded and the guard is alive, not good for me...

Galain, on 24 October 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

glad i wasn't osseric

and for tonight, jump into spite

Galain, on 24 October 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

hey, i'm a poet and didn't know it!

Starling:

Liosan, on 24 October 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

Well, that worked rather well! I'm going to stay where I am again. Unless someone else jumps into me or I start getting too much attention, the best bet for me is to keep going, slide under the radar, post just enough to get some attention but not too much And hopefully that will discourage other FMs from jumping into my alt.

And they're dropping like flies! There can't be too many left, but I'd say there must be at least the other two named in the OP, which makes three of us, out of seven players. There aren't too many town left if that's the case. Which makes it an even better idea that I stay here.

Liosan, on 25 October 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

Ooh, it's a reveal fest! This could get interesting. What is it about one person revealing that makes everyone else feel the need as well?

Liosan, on 25 October 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Would you tell me if someone had jumped into my alt?

Path-Shaper, on 25 October 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

You would notice because I would have changed the password and you would be dead.

[Path-Shaper]

Blend:

Olar Ethil, on 24 October 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

Heh, that means that someone jumped into Telas, which is what I was hoping for. I am anxious to see if the three named roles dying had something to do with too many people jumping into the same alt or not, and if so, then if it's because they all jumped into Telas.

Olar Ethil, on 24 October 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Now I need to figure out how to finish the original Olar's stupid poem.

Olar Ethil, on 24 October 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

Alright, I don't remember, am I allowed to jump back into an alt I have already been in?

If so, provisional for tonight - jump into Telas. If (for some crazy reason) he gets lynched, jump into Atrahal.

If not, then jump into Atrahal, if he gets lynched, jump into Galain.

Yes, you are allowed to jump back.

Olar Ethil, on 25 October 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

If I don't die for not jumping and it's not too late, I don't wanna jump anymore. Otherwise stick with the Telas jump.

Sorry, night is long over.

Roldom:

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

thats four named players dead, at least one more FM inside osseric (the handsome devil)

could it just be me and him?

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

I haddent researched spite enopugh to realise he has only posted like 6 times going to have to wait a few hours to post

Really wish I posted that I was an FM just before night timed out so know we could lynch osseric but i may of been vigged (looks like theres a few vigs out there)

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

well because i cant post yet im putting it here

4 named are dead, which makes me think only 4 players have left the game. that leaves 11 players,

3 others died nameless, which makes me think that 3 FMs have jumped successfully
But i know osseric didnt die because at least one fm is inside him
So at least four FMs left with 2 in one body is my guess

Osseric is my target, luckily my punctuation is aweful, Osserics isnt
in 3 hours im going to post my case that osserics been Fmed based on his use of the full stop and capital letters
muhahaha

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

Dance puppets Dance!

Atrahal has rightly guessed that the main reason I noticed osseric is that i am an FM myself

Clever suspicious Atrahal lol

I think im likly to get vigged tonight but if I somehow survive

jump into atrahal

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

hahahahaahahahahahahaaha!

I love it when a plan comes together!

seriously we are all FM's arnt we?

Spite, on 24 October 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

so all three unnamed people who died yesterday chose to inhabit my old body?

Didnt realize i was so appealing

Spite, on 25 October 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

guessing its to late to change my provisional to Telas because everyone decided to do a huge reveal fest last night

Khell and Gnaw:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Damn you for deleting the previous messages!

Interesting, someone jumped into old me - would be funny if Meanas and I simply swapped alts.

And hah, I said Emur was an FM! I wonder if new Atrahal will talk about that?

Of course I did! A new face doesn't mean you have new knowledge as well.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

And if anyone is sharing thus alt with me - come out you bastard!

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

I realise I'm quite likely talking to myself here, but:

If anyone else IS here, here's some tips so all of us survive and jump the frack out of here, in case you haven't looked this up yourself yet:

Meanas didn't start posting until about 9 hours from now, and then has about a 14-hour timeframe of posting from then (which sucks for me, as it's the middle of the night where I am - no one said this would be easy )

Also, NO SMILEYS!

Also, sometimes use capitals if you REALLY want to emphasise something.

Also, post clever-like.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

I'm here. PS sent the password to my main.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

You survived, I survived, somebody is in Atrahal. That's 3. My sorrit body is dead, but I survived the jump here. 3 dead FMs, 2 unaccounted for bodies.

And one lynched FM. We started with 6 FMs minimum? I'm starting to get a bad feeling.

Frau Lizrad, did you make a game of all FMs?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Allen Dulles. first head of CIA
Michael Collins. First IRA chief of Intelligence who actually did anything.
Kao First head of Indian RAW
Harel. Mossad

Walshingham was QEI's spymaster
Wolf was GDR STASi

May we discuss our original roles with each other PS? I'm counting at least 8 FMs to start.

Partner 1, here's a possible: the 3 dead nighttime FMs all tried jumping onto the same alt. that would mean limit 2 players to alt.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Does our vote for lynch count double?

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 24 October 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

You can discuss anything you want. Just no direct quoting from former PMs.

No, you share one vote between you.

You place your NAs here, but please make clear who is jumping into whom.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Ok.

Atrahal 1.0 I'm going to assume you were also a founder or first effective head of an intelligence service.

I tried recruiting someone and tried telling my wetwork department to kill someone. Fräulein Lizrad told me to quit trying to do things like that. I apparently don't even have a secretary to bring me coffee. All of which does not bode well for my anticipated pay cheque.

I did ask if I abstained from moving and somebody else dropped in. The abstained dies.

Question for Path-Shaper: If we abstin from moving and another FM drops in do we die?


I'm proposing a multi day partnership until we discover just how many FMs are out there. And my proposal is we both jump into your old body. As long as whoever has it today doesn't blow it to badly.

Question for Atrahal 1.0: could any of the dead spymasters be considered an opponent of your role? Michael Collins fits that for me.

Assumption: Meanas 1.0 was a FM as well.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Hey A1, did you change the time zone? It's set to GMT. Tattersail lives in England.

Path-Shaper, on 24 October 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Yes if you refrain from moving and someone else jumps into you you are dead.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

A1, even if you don't want to partner up we need to get through the day together. So info you need to know:

Go look at Sorrit posts that have quotes. My iPad is fucking up the headers. So anything I post from now on will have to have to be just straight up quote tags. Or done from home computer. Or you do the posting.

Reason I picked Meanas to jump to is I think I can swing the style. And I wanted to avoid trying a low poster and end up getting bounced out with four others. I would not be very surprised if someone does not try to tie Meanas and Sorrit together over the Tulas Shorn lynch. Now I wish Sorrit had posted one thing I held back. Didn't want to be seen as 'suggesting ideas to you fellow FMs". It was also the reason I suspected Meanas to be FM. A no lynch is much, much better than a mistaken lynch on this particular day one for town. Statistically a bad case lynch was certain to hit a townie.

That doesn't apply now I don't think. I want to find out if there are any actual townies at all. Everyone knowing that they were one of the 'few' FMs would go a long ways to explain the play yesterday.

Sincerely
Sorrit

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

Hey, yes I changed the timezone to my own (I'm UK). I believe it was a US timezone before.

As far as I know, no one is a direct enemy of mine - I'm from a completely different time period and place to everyone else as far as I'm aware.

There are at least 4 FMs still around: You, me, ex-Fener and ex-Tellan. One of ex-Fener or ex- is now in Atrahal.

It seems like we started with a shit load of FMs (half the players?). While I would have said that seems grossly unbalanced, the blood bath of FMs we just witnessed suggests not.


I don't mind trying to work together for the rest of the game (i.e. always jumping into the same alt) and therefore sharing victory. I was probably going to try and jump back into Atrahal anyway.

The reason I jumped last night is exactly because of the question you just asked PS. I asked yesterday, and, finding out that if someone jumped into me I would die, assumed it was safer to always be jumping.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

I jumped into Meanas because (1) He was a good poster and I wanted rid of him, and (2) I wanted to stay away from the lower posters. You were my second choice if Meanas was lynched

It may be a good idea if only one of us does the posting, so as not to accidentally overwrite ourselves. Of course we can confer here on what exactly to post and when.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

PS do our NAs have to come through this thread? Or can we use our mains?
Sorrit

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

I also wonder if there's anyone else in here?

Path-Shaper, on 24 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

They have to come through this convo.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Hmmm. How did Galain get to 8 FMs? I got there by knowing that there are 2 of us sharing the Meanas alt.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Also, my assumption for if too many FMs try to jump into the same alt is that the ones who placed their provisionals first got priority, whereas the ones who sent their NAs too late simply stayed in the alt they were inhabiting. And having said that:

Provisional Jump into Atrahal, if lynched jump into Olar Ethil


PS: The above is a provisional from original Atrahal (otherwise how will you know? )

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Fake Atrahal is posting. I would never use that smiley!

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Ah, fuck. I'm slow. What assurance do I have that you were Atrahal?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Hmmm. How did Galain get to 8 FMs? I got there by knowing that there are 2 of us sharing the Meanas alt.

No, he said that there are 8 players total left, and at least 3 of those are FMs.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Ah, fuck. I'm slow. What assurance do I have that you were Atrahal?

Well, there's the fact that my very first message to PS about a new Atrahal was clearly written before I considered someone else might be here.

Even if there is another person in here, it would be best for them to come forth, otherwise they're just screwing themseleves over as well as us.

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

I jumped into Meanas because (1) He was a good poster and I wanted rid of him, and (2) I wanted to stay away from the lower posters. You were my second choice if Meanas was lynched

It may be a good idea if only one of us does the posting, so as not to accidentally overwrite ourselves. Of course we can confer here on what exactly to post and when.

Now that's just hilarious. Atrahal was my second choice.

Provisional Inhabit Atrahal, if lynched Inhabit Olar Ethil. -- Sorrit

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Oh, good. I thought the silence was me being played. Just missed some cross post.

And I definitely like the idea of just one person doing the posting. I nominate you. But how badly is the time zone going to screw with matching M1’s post times?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

Alright, I'm going to have to go for a couple of hours. Don't do anything silly in the meantime (like post! ).

Couple of questions: What time zone are you? Just wondering which one of us is more suited to posting. For me, Meanas is 11pm to 1pm (i.e. through the night), but I could do it if I have to.

Also, do you think we should try to do anything to get Atrahal lynched, seeing as we know for sure that's another FM? Or leave him if we plan to jump there?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

Alright, I'm going to have to go for a couple of hours. Don't do anything silly in the meantime (like post! ).

Couple of questions: What time zone are you? Just wondering which one of us is more suited to posting. For me, Meanas is 11pm to 1pm (i.e. through the night), but I could do it if I have to.

Also, do you think we should try to do anything to get Atrahal lynched, seeing as we know for sure that's another FM? Or leave him if we plan to jump there?

I actually have to go for 2 or 3 hours myself. So no posting from me. I'm US east coast. GMT -5

I think we should leave him alone for the moment. We really want to avoid what Osseric? Said on day 1: anyone on day 2 with a huge goner for somebody probably means they know it's an FM using their old body.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Ok. Before I leave let me point out something.

There are 7 dead alts but only 4 dead named people

Which means 3 extra FMs. We know we're doubled up. So at least one other is too.

And I wonder why nobody is mentioning that? They can't all be the unobservant.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Methinks Spite used to be Osseric, and that's why he's targetting Osseric now from the get-go.

What bets on ALL of us being FMs?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Methinks Spite used to be Osseric, and that's why he's targetting Osseric now from the get-go.

What bets on ALL of us being FMs?

Yeah, that would make sense. Spite is trying to make a case out of 4 votes. Weak.


And, yeah, I'm thinking Liz through 15 FMs into a room to see what would happen.

I just got back, so reading up. I'm thinking Meanas 1.0 might be in Galain. A gut feeling.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Oh ho ho ho. This is slick. Very slick.

Quote

Atrahal, on 24 October 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Quote

Osseric, on 24 October 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:
Actually now that I think about it liosan is trying to get someone to come forward. He is probably a FM and worried that the vigs will kill him off. Personally I don't think that losing what sounds like 3 spymasters is a awesome result for town. They where probably roled.


Do you not understand that the spymasters are the FM?

I actually hadn't put that together. for some strange reason i was thinking that because they had names they where town. durrr

But I don't think it's going to work. Spite and Galain just might make a lynch out of periods.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

I think I see another share set. Spite.

Osseric, if it was once or twice... maybe, but in a game with at least 7 FM



Fuck me running. I really want to hammer. Where are you?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Sorry A1. Hope I,m not fucking us.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Just too good a chance to fuck some people with an insanely early lynch.

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Also, my assumption for if too many FMs try to jump into the same alt is that the ones who placed their provisionals first got priority, whereas the ones who sent their NAs too late simply stayed in the alt they were inhabiting. And having said that:

Provisional Jump into Atrahal, if lynched jump into Olar Ethil


PS: The above is a provisional from original Atrahal (otherwise how will you know? )

I bet it all that you're right about this.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

Holy Bouncing Buddha on a pogo stick Batman.

Osseric is dead. He was Giles and Semyon Semyonov. He was EmperorMagus and Sir William Samual Stephenson. He was Vengeance and Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky

I had a gut the Iron Felix would be around. It is pretty impossible to build a list like this and not have that maniac on it.

Other two I don't think I've heard of.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Oh, and I think that pretty much sews up the "we're all FMs"

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Heh. Can't believe I didn't recognize the Englishman.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

I'm going to keep posting here since we live or die together another day.

I am giving the "all FMs" a rethink. Possible there is a Vig. Or 3.

Things we know:

Atrahal is FM
There are now 7 alts. Atrahal, Galain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Spite, Telas
There are 8 forum names unaccounted for.

Players:
1. Gnaw
2. Gusty
3. Shin. . NK. Emurlahn. Michael Collins
4. Azath. NK. Karosis. Rameshwar Nath Kao
5. Tatts. . NK Korvalain Isser Harel
6. Giles. Lynched in Osseric. Semyanov
7. EM. . Lynched in Osseric. Intrepid
8. Blend.
9. Khell
10. The Dude
11. Starling.
12. Roldom
13. Blissy.
14.Venge. Lynched in Osseric. Iron Felix
15. HO. Lynched. Tulas Shorn. Alan Dulles.

With 8 names and 7 alts nobody else is paired. (Assuming no puppets as Shin had in Sen3)

2 of the alts contain 3 FMs. Atrahal2.0, and Meanas2.0 x 2

We KNOW one of the names in the OP was in the game. Kao. Is it safe to assume that Sir Francis Walsingham and Markus Wolf are in it also?
PS said, "You can discuss anything you want. Just no direct quoting from former PMs."

I am not in the original OP If we assume that Walshingham and Wolf are in the game, AND we assume that you and Atrahal2.0 are in the OP, then we can tentatively give names to all 3 know FMs.

That would leave 5 alts with unknown roles.

(Sorry if I'm sounding pedantic here; typing this as I think things through)

Where I'm headed with this is trying to figure out the maximum possible townies. Those 3 dead FMs night one are bothering me.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Holy hell, and I thought it was crowded in here

I see you couldn't wait a couple more hours, but never mind, we're outta here!

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Yeah, the only troubling thing is those FM deaths. I think that's one of those things that we won't figure out until we get to SH, unfortunately.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

I hope we're doing the right thing with the Atrahal jump, but to be honest it's all a bit of a gamble and ride your luck right now.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

One worry I have with you just hammering is that IF there are vigs, they might target us now, as we really look like an FM with that hammer, and kills go before jumps

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Yeah that was a possibility.

I thought it worth the risk to get rid of a 99% likely FM coupled with the chance to jump without ever having to mimic Meanas.

Hope you agree.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Resolution order: guard --> find --> heal --> kill --> FM (some of these might not be in effect)

TS never got to jump
Sorrit jumped and left a body


That leaves the bodies of Tellan and Fener.
How do we work out 2 bodies and 3 dead players? Emurlahn, Karosis, and Korvalain.

We now know they couldn't have been a 3 into 1 'over the limit' death of all 3 because Osseric had 3.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Yeah that was a possibility.

I thought it worth the risk to get rid of a 99% likely FM coupled with the chance to jump without ever having to mimic Meanas.

Hope you agree.

I'm afraid I do not - Osseric was going to be lynched without us having to do anything and you should have shown patience. But at least now if we die I don't have to blame myself for once

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Resolution order: guard --> find --> heal --> kill --> FM (some of these might not be in effect)

TS never got to jump
Sorrit jumped and left a body


That leaves the bodies of Tellan and Fener.
How do we work out 2 bodies and 3 dead players? Emurlahn, Karosis, and Korvalain.

We now know they couldn't have been a 3 into 1 'over the limit' death of all 3 because Osseric had 3.

Sorry, I think I'm being a bit dense. I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

Tellan, Fener, and Sorrit (you) all died presumably because they were the bodies left by FMs and nobody else jumped into them. Emurlahn, Karosis, and Korvalain died because....I have no fucking clue.

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

I do think you are right about Spite being FM and originally in Osseric. That is the only explanation I can see for starting the case.

And I think that Galain had the same thought you did. Sure jumped on the train quickly.

I also *think* (for meta reasons) that Meanas1.0 moved to Galain.

Possible FM identities

Walshingham. England
Wolf. GDR. STASI

Liz is German and they get a bit strange about WWII, but Himmler and/or Admiral Doenitz could fit in this list. Reinhardt Gehlen as well.

Cardinal Richelieu.

He'll, Mata Hari.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Ah! How do we work out 2 dead bodies and 3 dead people in Osseric you mean?

It comes back to everyone being an FM doesn't it? Those 3 came from elsewhere as well as possibly Fener and Tellan - but unlike Fener and Tellan, others jumped into their old bodies, no? Ok, I'm going to do some number crunching.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Resolution order: guard --> find --> heal --> kill --> FM (some of these might not be in effect)

TS never got to jump
Sorrit jumped and left a body


That leaves the bodies of Tellan and Fener.
How do we work out 2 bodies and 3 dead players? Emurlahn, Karosis, and Korvalain.

We now know they couldn't have been a 3 into 1 'over the limit' death of all 3 because Osseric had 3.

Sorry, I think I'm being a bit dense. I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

Tellan, Fener, and Sorrit (you) all died presumably because they were the bodies left by FMs and nobody else jumped into them. Emurlahn, Karosis, and Korvalain died because....I have no fucking clue.

I don't either. Which bothers me. Any way I look at it, I keep coming up with a Vig. Or 3.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Yeah that was a possibility.

I thought it worth the risk to get rid of a 99% likely FM coupled with the chance to jump without ever having to mimic Meanas.

Hope you agree.

I'm afraid I do not - Osseric was going to be lynched without us having to do anything and you should have shown patience. But at least now if we die I don't have to blame myself for once

Sorry then. And yes I'll take full responsibility.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Ah! How do we work out 2 dead bodies and 3 dead people in Osseric you mean?

It comes back to everyone being an FM doesn't it? Those 3 came from elsewhere as well as possibly Fener and Tellan - but unlike Fener and Tellan, others jumped into their old bodies, no? Ok, I'm going to do some number crunching.

Exactly. I'm sure I'm missing something. But can't figure it out for the life of me.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

8 people alive at start of day 2: Atrahal, Galain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Spite, Telas

But we know now there were more than 8 players alive. Minimum of 11.

Which SEEMS to work out because Fener, Sorrit, and Tellan jumped. BUT: We know 3 people had to have jumped into Osseric, and only two of those could have.

Hmm. Is it me or are there more players still alive than should be possible? Shouldn't more alts have died if we know that at least 2 alts are inhabited by more than one player?

I'm sure I'm just not thinking this through properly.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

But I am thinking that

If we survive the night and
There are townies

Then we have a shot at being the last FMs tomorrow night.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

we know that at least 2 alts are inhabited by more than one player?

.

I think we're the only duo. Everyone else is alone.

8 forum member names and 7 alts.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

No, I think I'm right, it doesn't make sense with the info we have at the moment. If everyone is an FM then ONE MORE PERSON should have died by their body being left and no one occupying it, because the maths doesn't add up otherwise.

Therefore, I don't think everyone can be an FM.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

So yes, I'm with you, I think there are town roles.

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Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

Another thought about things we know. Don't know if it helps us though.

We know that at lynch there was at least one person who had not sent a provisional.

Spite, Galain, OE, and Telas were online.

That leaves Liosan and Atrahal2.0

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

No, I think I'm right, it doesn't make sense with the info we have at the moment. If everyone is an FM then ONE MORE PERSON should have died by their body being left and no one occupying it, because the maths doesn't add up otherwise.

Therefore, I don't think everyone can be an FM.

Yeah, I think so too.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

It would be helpful to know if you were on that OP list or not. . Answer or not, I won't be offended if you don't. There can only be one.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

It would be helpful to know if you were on that OP list or not. . Answer or not, I won't be offended if you don't. There can only be one.

Yep, I was. Which made me think there would only be 3 FMs. Imagine my surprise

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Bad thought #319

Why are we assuming town roles would be vanilla? Or is that just me?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

It would be helpful to know if you were on that OP list or not. . Answer or not, I won't be offended if you don't. There can only be one.

Yep, I was. Which made me think there would only be 3 FMs. Imagine my surprise

I understand.

Well there is a possibility that Atrahal2.0 and we two are the last. I don't think so, but it is a possibility.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Hmmm. Your surprise. I'm suddenly recalling OE's emphasizing the envelopes over the names. To the point that he left the names out of his OP quote. If OE was Wolf yesterday, day one how would that affect your math?

Edit: changed yesterday to Day 1 for clarity.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

It's possible. But I do reckon Spite at least is another FM.

In any case, we know Atrahal must be an FM, so we're doing the right thing by jumping there. With luck, maybe they won't jump and we'll kill them. But that's unlikely.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Hmmm. Your surprise. I'm suddenly recalling OE's emphasizing the envelopes over the names. To the point that he left the names out of his OP quote. If OE was Wolf yesterday, how would that affect your math?

My math wasn't based on names, so it wouldn't. It was purely based on the fact that if 3 people had to have jumped into Osseric, then that meant that (if everyone was an FM), no matter how many other people jumped or stayed where they were, there would still have been an additional empty alt. Meaning not everyone jumped. And meaning not everyone is an FM.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

I think Spite and Galain have to be feeling very good abut themselves. Enough not to jump? *shrug*

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Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Hmmm. Your surprise. I'm suddenly recalling OE's emphasizing the envelopes over the names. To the point that he left the names out of his OP quote. If OE was Wolf yesterday, how would that affect your math?

My math wasn't based on names, so it wouldn't. It was purely based on the fact that if 3 people had to have jumped into Osseric, then that meant that (if everyone was an FM), no matter how many other people jumped or stayed where they were, there would still have been an additional empty alt. Meaning not everyone jumped. And meaning not everyone is an FM.

Ok

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Only about 75 minutes left in night.

Will JLV ignore any NAs that come in after the time limit?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

If we do survive the night and somebody jumps into this body, it will make a good lynch target?

Or stay off of it so nobody will make the connection we did with Spite and Osseric?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Side note: Veng as Iron Felix Dzerzhinsky.

And if I did kill us, nothing you can say will be nearly as bad as whomever was at the Osseric keyboard.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

If we do survive the night and somebody jumps into this body, it will make a good lynch target?

Or stay off of it so nobody will make the connection we did with Spite and Osseric?

See how things play out at the beginning I guess. And yes, the Osseric thing was very fail - especially the panicky defence

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Only about 75 minutes left in night.

Will JLV ignore any NAs that come in after the time limit?

Presumably yes, but 4 hours is a long time for people to change their minds.

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

Cool. So we're still waiting on a NA presumably?

Meanas, on 24 October 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

4 Anon's and 1 PS.

You and I are 2 of the anons.

Yeah, I'm bored.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Atrahal, what are your thoughts on Galain? FM or town?

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

I know, I hate non-instant nights. Constantly doubting whether you've made the right choice, etc. And all that waiting and nail-biting just to find out you're dead at the end of it

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Atrahal, what are your thoughts on Galain? FM or town?

Ugh, no real idea really. I haven't spent much time looking at how people have been posting. I do suspect Olar may not be who he once was. Far fewer posts today, AND the use of poetry seemed...over the top. For instance, OE had actually stopped posting poetry in a lot of his posts towards the end of day 1 - yet he did it in every one today.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:

It's not exactly conclusive, but worth keeping an eye on.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

I know, I hate non-instant nights. Constantly doubting whether you've made the right choice, etc. And all that waiting and nail-biting just to find out you're dead at the end of it

Oh yeah. Plus having to worry that I killed you too.

I do think going back to the Atrahal alt is a good idea for you. Put a couple of those day 2 smileys in, and you should be good.

What are you downtime hours? Sorta need to think about whether we should go dark then. I really don't like the idea of me trying to copy your style plus the day two style.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

I know, I hate non-instant nights. Constantly doubting whether you've made the right choice, etc. And all that waiting and nail-biting just to find out you're dead at the end of it

Oh yeah. Plus having to worry that I killed you too.

I do think going back to the Atrahal alt is a good idea for you. Put a couple of those day 2 smileys in, and you should be good.

What are you downtime hours? Sorta need to think about whether we should go dark then. I really don't like the idea of me trying to copy your style plus the day two style.

If we do make it back to the Atrahal alt, then I suggest I do the posting. I know that won't be very fun for you, but I think it's the sensible thing to do. I don't really have set posting hours, as I can post when working too, other than when I'm asleep - which will be in about an hour and a half from now.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

Dude. I don't care about how much fun I have on one day. I want the fun of being The One. Or, if we can work it, one of The Two.

I did an advanced search on Galain. I'm much less sure about him being FM. He only posted 5 times day one though.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Since you are going to be doing all the work, what do you think of me trying to red herring somebody with my main.

By which I mean, pick somebody who comes close to my posting style, and every time they post something I post as my main in one of the discussion threads? Or is that just too esoteric to work?

I have noticed that almost nobody posts off game thread while the game is going.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

You went away with only ten minutes to go in night? Surely not.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

Nope, I'm still here If you think doing that might help, then go for it - better than sitting around on your ass

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

Night timed out now.

Anticipation....

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

You two are dead.

Now go to bed.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

Ouch. That just blows.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

If you are Hinter, you are naked.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

I'm not - I don't think there's a Hinter playing - think it's a curious audience

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Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

Really want fuck with them?

Post a list of something.

Using bullet points.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 12:59 AM, said:

Did Galain just screw up?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

I'm seeing if I can get more info from him.

Bah, I fucking posted a smiley. What's wrong with me?!!

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

At this point JLV is just being cruel

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:

He's being deliberately obtuse about there being 8 people alive but only seven alts. I don't understand why. Unless he's trying to see who will point that out.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Ok, IF we're alive tomorrow, clearly we're going to be a target. So what do you think about this for a defence:

We say, yes, you could lynch me, OR you could lynch that guy over there (whoever), who is actually 2/3 FMs in one body. Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of more people?

Then they'll ask how I know this.

And I say, actually, I'm no FM. That is, I am, but I'm a town FM. I can't jump all the time, but I can detect and kill FMs who try to jump into me. That's how Korv, Karosis, and Emur died, they tried to jump into me. I can also 'find' another alt, and it tells me the number of players in there.

Too outlandish?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

I'm really starting to think day 2 Galain is the same person as day 1 Galain. Only 5 posts to go on of course. So an FM who abstained from jumping the first night?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:21 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

I'm really starting to think day 2 Galain is the same person as day 1 Galain. Only 5 posts to go on of course. So an FM who abstained from jumping the first night?

He said he failed. He tried to jump into Osseric but didn't get in.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Risky. But we'll have to do something


Or? Hmmm

IF, IF Atrahal2.0 doesn't come back online tonight, just play it as a "I'm town, I'm not FM. See, I smoked two FMs out."

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:21 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

I'm really starting to think day 2 Galain is the same person as day 1 Galain. Only 5 posts to go on of course. So an FM who abstained from jumping the first night?

He said he failed. He tried to jump into Osseric but didn't get in.

I saw that. But I'm starting to wifom myself at this point.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Risky. But we'll have to do something


Or? Hmmm

IF, IF Atrahal2.0 doesn't come back online tonight, just play it as a "I'm town, I'm not FM. See, I smoked two FMs out."

Hmm, that's not bad.

Laying a vote down as soon as day begins might be a good idea, get the ball rolling on someone else.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Ok, IF we're alive tomorrow, clearly we're going to be a target. So what do you think about this for a defence:

We say, yes, you could lynch me, OR you could lynch that guy over there (whoever), who is actually 2/3 FMs in one body. Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of more people?

Then they'll ask how I know this.

And I say, actually, I'm no FM. That is, I am, but I'm a town FM. I can't jump all the time, but I can detect and kill FMs who try to jump into me. That's how Korv, Karosis, and Emur died, they tried to jump into me. I can also 'find' another alt, and it tells me the number of players in there.

Too outlandish?

How would you 'explain' the Galain supposed bounce?

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

Ok, IF we're alive tomorrow, clearly we're going to be a target. So what do you think about this for a defence:

We say, yes, you could lynch me, OR you could lynch that guy over there (whoever), who is actually 2/3 FMs in one body. Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of more people?

Then they'll ask how I know this.

And I say, actually, I'm no FM. That is, I am, but I'm a town FM. I can't jump all the time, but I can detect and kill FMs who try to jump into me. That's how Korv, Karosis, and Emur died, they tried to jump into me. I can also 'find' another alt, and it tells me the number of players in there.

Too outlandish?

How would you 'explain' the Galain supposed bounce?

Indeed. Hmmm. He lied? :/

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Risky. But we'll have to do something


Or? Hmmm

IF, IF Atrahal2.0 doesn't come back online tonight, just play it as a "I'm town, I'm not FM. See, I smoked two FMs out."

Hmm, that's not bad.

Laying a vote down as soon as day begins might be a good idea, get the ball rolling on someone else.

Can you think of any attack you could make now on Atrahal that you could turn around tomorrow? Something that would strengthen the "it was a fake reveal"?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

Assuming JLV quits surfing porn sometime soon, a "look, I smoked out 2 now we just have to figure out where they went"

Eh. That doesn't look nearly as strong on screen as it did in my head.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

The failure to resolve night on time has thrown a bit of a spanner into this game. The good news is I'll no longer blame you for us losing - I'll blame JLV instead

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Six anons. You, me, Galain, Telas.

Gawd I'm feeling soooo useful.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

The failure to resolve night on time has thrown a bit of a spanner into this game. The good news is I'll no longer blame you for us losing - I'll blame JLV instead

Well, if we get NKed I'm still to blame.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Liosan might just end up modkilled.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

If he doesn't could you throw anything at him? Or would that just make us look weak?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

And yes I k os the "us" is a bit one sided. Sorry.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Liosan might just end up modkilled.

Why would he be modkilled?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:51 AM, said:

Has he even logged in today?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:52 AM, said:

And if we can't get Galain lynched for those two videos alone....

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

I think Liosan was here at the start of today yeah - I seem to remember him talking to Osseric?

I'm going to have to go to bed soon. If you're still around when day begins, and Meanas is alive (and, erm, we're alive!), lay a vote down on him straight off.

If Meanas is not alive, go for someone who's not been a big poster, like Liosan.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Or, of course, go for Galain if he's alive and Meanas is not.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:

Ok. Can you write a couple of generic paragraphs? Especially the "I'm not an FM, that was to smoke people out".and one for your idea? Or are we better off just posting a vote and going dark?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

A vote then going dark would look way too much like my Osseric hammer.

Or.....we just go dark. "Atrahall"said he was going to bed. Maybe going to bed is the best play?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

Something like:

Reveal time: I am not an FM. I posted that after night finished because I saw an opportunity to smoke out an FM or two, and it worked perfectly, which is why I stopped responding after they came out the woodwork. Normally I would say lynch me to test the proof of my statement, but in this case we haven't got time to waste, as the FMs will just jump again.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

That'lll work.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

And for the other one:

Why lynch one hen you can lynch two? Meanas/Galain/whoever is inhabited by two FMs right now.

How do I know this? Well, I am an FM, but I'm not one of you scumballs. I'm the town FM. I can't jump every night like I reckon you lot can, but I can do a couple of other things. Number one, anyone who tries to jump into an alt I inhabit dies. That's what I reckon happened to at least one of Karosis, Korvalain, and Emur (and add any other FMs who died on night 2, if any).

I can also do finds. If I find an FM, it also tells me how many I've found in that alt.

I did a find on ...., and there were two.

So, town, if any of you are left, I hope you vote for ... The rest of you - I guess it's up to you to decide whether to take me out now or two of your rivals. Fuck, maybe I'm lucky and there's only one other of you left.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

An hour or so???

Well, I guess that means you won't find out if I killed us until you wake up.

G'night.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

And for the other one:

Why lynch one hen you can lynch two? Meanas/Galain/whoever is inhabited by two FMs right now.

How do I know this? Well, I am an FM, but I'm not one of you scumballs. I'm the town FM. I can't jump every night like I reckon you lot can, but I can do a couple of other things. Number one, anyone who tries to jump into an alt I inhabit dies. That's what I reckon happened to at least one of Karosis, Korvalain, and Emur (and add any other FMs who died on night 2, if any).

I can also do finds. If I find an FM, it also tells me how many I've found in that alt.

I did a find on ...., and there were two.

So, town, if any of you are left, I hope you vote for ... The rest of you - I guess it's up to you to decide whether to take me out now or two of your rivals. Fuck, maybe I'm lucky and there's only one other of you left.

That is good. Very good.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

An hour or so???

Well, I guess that means you won't find out if I killed us until you wake up.

G'night.

Yeah, I don't think I can last another hour. Well, seeing as you're going to be around, go with your idea. Good luck, I'll try and wake up early

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

And for the other one:

Why lynch one hen you can lynch two? Meanas/Galain/whoever is inhabited by two FMs right now.

How do I know this? Well, I am an FM, but I'm not one of you scumballs. I'm the town FM. I can't jump every night like I reckon you lot can, but I can do a couple of other things. Number one, anyone who tries to jump into an alt I inhabit dies. That's what I reckon happened to at least one of Karosis, Korvalain, and Emur (and add any other FMs who died on night 2, if any).

I can also do finds. If I find an FM, it also tells me how many I've found in that alt.

I did a find on ...., and there were two.

So, town, if any of you are left, I hope you vote for ... The rest of you - I guess it's up to you to decide whether to take me out now or two of your rivals. Fuck, maybe I'm lucky and there's only one other of you left.

That is good. Very good.

No, don't go with mine, I've just realised there's a massive flaw there. If such a role existed, and revealed, there would be nothing FMs could do to kill it, assuming there weren't enough of them gathered together to lynch it off. The role is too unrealistic.

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

And for the other one:

Why lynch one hen you can lynch two? Meanas/Galain/whoever is inhabited by two FMs right now.

How do I know this? Well, I am an FM, but I'm not one of you scumballs. I'm the town FM. I can't jump every night like I reckon you lot can, but I can do a couple of other things. Number one, anyone who tries to jump into an alt I inhabit dies. That's what I reckon happened to at least one of Karosis, Korvalain, and Emur (and add any other FMs who died on night 2, if any).

I can also do finds. If I find an FM, it also tells me how many I've found in that alt.

I did a find on ...., and there were two.

So, town, if any of you are left, I hope you vote for ... The rest of you - I guess it's up to you to decide whether to take me out now or two of your rivals. Fuck, maybe I'm lucky and there's only one other of you left.

That is good. Very good.

No, don't go with mine, I've just realised there's a massive flaw there. If such a role existed, and revealed, there would be nothing FMs could do to kill it, assuming there weren't enough of them gathered together to lynch it off. The role is too unrealistic.

Unless you got rid of the whole 'jump into me and you die' bit, then it could work. If you just made it a finder role.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

Okey. But I'm going to use your syntax from that one. Or try to.

Can I call them fucktards?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

Okey. But I'm going to use your syntax from that one. Or try to.

Can I call them fucktards?

As much as you may want to, no. And not because I wouldn't, but because you have to stay reasonable and friendly-sounding. Mafia players are a sensitive lot, they don't respond well to insults

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

And for the other one:

Why lynch one hen you can lynch two? Meanas/Galain/whoever is inhabited by two FMs right now.

How do I know this? Well, I am an FM, but I'm not one of you scumballs. I'm the town FM. I can't jump every night like I reckon you lot can, but I can do a couple of other things. Number one, anyone who tries to jump into an alt I inhabit dies. That's what I reckon happened to at least one of Karosis, Korvalain, and Emur (and add any other FMs who died on night 2, if any).

I can also do finds. If I find an FM, it also tells me how many I've found in that alt.

I did a find on ...., and there were two.

So, town, if any of you are left, I hope you vote for ... The rest of you - I guess it's up to you to decide whether to take me out now or two of your rivals. Fuck, maybe I'm lucky and there's only one other of you left.

That is good. Very good.

No, don't go with mine, I've just realised there's a massive flaw there. If such a role existed, and revealed, there would be nothing FMs could do to kill it, assuming there weren't enough of them gathered together to lynch it off. The role is too unrealistic.

Unless you got rid of the whole 'jump into me and you die' bit, then it could work. If you just made it a finder role.

This is over complicated probably, but how about "First one dies, second one bounces, third on gets through?" Gives the power but builtin weakness.

You could...but I wouldn't phrase it like that. The less detail the better, so something like "I have some limited FM warding-off capabilities."

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

JLV quote

I'm here, jesus.

Dammit, FMs jumping around AND somebody can resurrect?? TDMI should have been higher than seven.

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

Is 'diminishing returns' a phrase you would use?

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Meanas, on 25 October 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

Is 'diminishing returns' a phrase you would use?

Sure, knock yourself out