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Korvalain, on 12 October 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:
Here's my take on day 2 as I reread it. To provide a caveat, I still think Sorrit's the best choice of today despite my suspicion of others. I still would like to capture other irregular behavior today, especially when I doubt killing 1 scum will win the game for us (which means we have others to find, even if Sorrit is scum).
Meanas very quickly discounts the case on TS, largely based on TS's refusal to hammer at the end of day 1 (which has been a very contentious point for the rest of the day actually). The problem I have with Meanas is he blows things out of proportion, harping on one detail (that may or may not be accurate) and has a tendency to ignore other salient points. There is suspicion that Meanas is scum, and I've liked the idea that he is a symp. He jumps to the defense of a couple of people (TS and Karo), often before any momentum is gained, like he is trying to head a lynch off at the pass, so to speak. This is a theory worth looking into.
Tellan still rings alarm bells in my head, despite his increased contribution. He is too proud of making a train on an admittedly weak case and then failing to discuss his vote (which he claims was a conversation starter). In fact, the tough guy routine is really what niggles at me. Comments like "WIFOM is not a good case and I wont defend myself against it" smack of someone trying to get away with not defending themselves on principle and instead cutting down the accusers as idiots. I mean, if allowed to happen, it is a great way to defend oneself, but the refusal to participate is more an act of avoidance than ballsiness.
Meanas very quickly discounts the case on TS, largely based on TS's refusal to hammer at the end of day 1 (which has been a very contentious point for the rest of the day actually). The problem I have with Meanas is he blows things out of proportion, harping on one detail (that may or may not be accurate) and has a tendency to ignore other salient points. There is suspicion that Meanas is scum, and I've liked the idea that he is a symp. He jumps to the defense of a couple of people (TS and Karo), often before any momentum is gained, like he is trying to head a lynch off at the pass, so to speak. This is a theory worth looking into.
Tellan still rings alarm bells in my head, despite his increased contribution. He is too proud of making a train on an admittedly weak case and then failing to discuss his vote (which he claims was a conversation starter). In fact, the tough guy routine is really what niggles at me. Comments like "WIFOM is not a good case and I wont defend myself against it" smack of someone trying to get away with not defending themselves on principle and instead cutting down the accusers as idiots. I mean, if allowed to happen, it is a great way to defend oneself, but the refusal to participate is more an act of avoidance than ballsiness.
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Now we turn to day 3 and a pretty interesting post from Meanas. He is quick to excuse a few players. Reading over his analyses for Galain, Karosis, and Tulas is quite interesting. It almost reads like he knows he’s gone a bit too far (just look at Korvalain’s post above, and Sorrit’s earlier, for evidence that people have been noticing), and now he tries to distance himself from that. Thus, Galain ‘could be scum or townie’, fairly non-committal. Karosis is now ‘kind of scummy’ despite earlier looking everywhere except Karosis. Tulas remains ‘probably a townie’, though the discounting in itself has caused suspicion already (and in the interests of fairness, he does this for myself too).
Obviously, I don’t think all these people are connected. At first I was set on a Karosis/Meanas/Galain triangle, but the Tulas thing is really bugging me, and I think he could just as easily be swapped in for Galain with the way that Meanas approaches any suspicions raised against Tulas.
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Meanas, on 12 October 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:
Fener: Hasn't posted a whole lot, but when he does post they are well-thought out posts. Agreed with the Sorrit case, doesn't necessarily see TS as scum based on Korv's case, gives me shit for not refuting Sorrit's OMGUS case with facts right away (I did refute later, by the way). He's playing more or less safe, doesn't seem to be making his own cases, just commenting on other people's cases, which is safe scum play, but also safe town play. I'm on the fence re: Fener at the moment.
Galain: Basically has had a massive boner for Tellan since Day 1. Waffles re: Sorrit vote, first he says the Sorrit case does seem reasonable, but then says he isn't all that sure about the Sorrit case, and would rather vote of Tellan, Tulas Shorn or me. (shocker!) Could be scum, could just be a townie with a boner for Tellan. I think probably the latter.
Karosis: Hasn't been around much. Basically just throws in a comment here and there, without much substance to his vote. When we were discussing the Sorrit case, the only other person he mentioned being suspicious of, really, is Tulas Shorn. Basically tried to set up a Tulas vote today while it was still Day 2, which is kind of scummy.
Meanas: The coolest person to ever walk the Earth. Obviously an angelically innocent townie who is only looking out for the rest of you!
Olar Ethil: I get townie vibes from Olar. He makes strong, reasoned arguments, and though he doesn't really make any cases of his own, he's not blindly following people on the lynch trains. He thinks I'm suspect, but hey, that always seems to happen to the active players. Regardless, I think he's probably town, or at least less suspect than some of the others on this list.
Osseric: Sorrit had noted that he felt Osseric was a little suspect during Day 1, if I'm not mistaken, but never elaborated, cause he was too busy going after me. Osseric doesn't feel the Tulas case is/was strong. Figures if Tulas is anything, he's a symp, and that we should be going after Tellan instead. Wasn't against the Sorrit case. Otherwise, not too much is standing out to me on him. He could be scum based on his allowing other people to lead him thing, but I think he's probably just a townie who doesn't want to paint a target on their back.
Tellan: Everyone seems to be suspicious of Tellan. I figure that today's lynch is gonna end up being either Tellan or me. Guess we shall see. The thing about Tellan is that he's playing it as an angry townie, swears at everyone, basically calls us all idiots, that type of stuff. He voted for the Sorrit lynch, he even pushed for it. I think that he's probably my favourite right now for scum, though he's not been high up on my list for a couple of days now.
Tulas Shorn: Posted enough on Day 1, but I am having a very hard time coming up with any form of useful content from him for Day 2. I never got a scum vibe from him, and I'm gonna stick by that. I think he's probably a townie.
So all in all, it seems to me that Tellan is the most likely scum of those left, with Galain and Fener in close second. Looking forward to hearing from the rest of you today!
Galain: Basically has had a massive boner for Tellan since Day 1. Waffles re: Sorrit vote, first he says the Sorrit case does seem reasonable, but then says he isn't all that sure about the Sorrit case, and would rather vote of Tellan, Tulas Shorn or me. (shocker!) Could be scum, could just be a townie with a boner for Tellan. I think probably the latter.
Karosis: Hasn't been around much. Basically just throws in a comment here and there, without much substance to his vote. When we were discussing the Sorrit case, the only other person he mentioned being suspicious of, really, is Tulas Shorn. Basically tried to set up a Tulas vote today while it was still Day 2, which is kind of scummy.
Meanas: The coolest person to ever walk the Earth. Obviously an angelically innocent townie who is only looking out for the rest of you!
Olar Ethil: I get townie vibes from Olar. He makes strong, reasoned arguments, and though he doesn't really make any cases of his own, he's not blindly following people on the lynch trains. He thinks I'm suspect, but hey, that always seems to happen to the active players. Regardless, I think he's probably town, or at least less suspect than some of the others on this list.
Osseric: Sorrit had noted that he felt Osseric was a little suspect during Day 1, if I'm not mistaken, but never elaborated, cause he was too busy going after me. Osseric doesn't feel the Tulas case is/was strong. Figures if Tulas is anything, he's a symp, and that we should be going after Tellan instead. Wasn't against the Sorrit case. Otherwise, not too much is standing out to me on him. He could be scum based on his allowing other people to lead him thing, but I think he's probably just a townie who doesn't want to paint a target on their back.
Tellan: Everyone seems to be suspicious of Tellan. I figure that today's lynch is gonna end up being either Tellan or me. Guess we shall see. The thing about Tellan is that he's playing it as an angry townie, swears at everyone, basically calls us all idiots, that type of stuff. He voted for the Sorrit lynch, he even pushed for it. I think that he's probably my favourite right now for scum, though he's not been high up on my list for a couple of days now.
Tulas Shorn: Posted enough on Day 1, but I am having a very hard time coming up with any form of useful content from him for Day 2. I never got a scum vibe from him, and I'm gonna stick by that. I think he's probably a townie.
So all in all, it seems to me that Tellan is the most likely scum of those left, with Galain and Fener in close second. Looking forward to hearing from the rest of you today!
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And, finally, we might as well end with Karosis, seeing as this case is supposed to be about him after all. How quickly does he back away here when Fener gets just a little aggressive against him, even though the point is really about what Meanas wanted to achieve with that analysis, which is a valid thought. To me, Karosis’ response seems to scream of ‘please, don’t pay any attention to me!’
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Fener, on 13 October 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:
Karosis, on 13 October 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:
I dont expect anyone else to show up anytime soon, so I'm out too.
I think tomorrow will ve our last chance to lynch scum if we dont today. I'm keeping my eyes on Meanas, though, for instead if casting suspicion on some in his last post, he tries to prevent it from falling on others. And scum love lists. Id bet that if Meanas is scum, his partner is one of the people he framed as townie seeming.
I think tomorrow will ve our last chance to lynch scum if we dont today. I'm keeping my eyes on Meanas, though, for instead if casting suspicion on some in his last post, he tries to prevent it from falling on others. And scum love lists. Id bet that if Meanas is scum, his partner is one of the people he framed as townie seeming.
Please tell me you don't actually think Meanas is scummy because he listed his thoughts on every player.
Karosis, on 13 October 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:
Nio, not really. It was there to add some hymor
Now, it may be that Galain or Tulas is the symp and Meanas the other killer, although I think it’s more likely Meanas is they symp. And one of Galain or Tulas is, I believe, not scum, but I’m pretty undecided on which one. What doesn’t change in my mind is that Karosis is a killer, and that’s where my vote will go.
Finally, it’s worth noting that even after multiple rereads, I still really have no grasp of Osseric. Even though Fener has fewer posts, they almost always seem to be content-filled.
