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What Is a Troll? Honestly

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

Children, I am a child of the seventies, a relic from the of gramophones and vinyl discs and phonographs and hippies and other things. I recently decided to dig into these technology things and one of these, which I initially thought had something to do with fishing and fishing nets, has led me here, a place where I am told questions are answered and answers are given. I am tying on something called a keyboard and I have tried tying on other places to ask young uns questions. Many times, I am told that I am trolling, I am a troll. I disagree. I am quite human, with all vestigial organs, and none of these are horns. I also don't live under a bridge. I though trolls live under a bridge.

To me, this is a troll.

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But I am told these net trolls look like this

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I disagree profoundly. I do not look like that. I have a splendid moustache!
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:11 PM

I think the term troll originated more from the old fable, because internet trolls appear out of nowhere and can depart again just as quickly. Ducking back under their bridge, if you will.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:30 PM

Yes, and the term has morphed. A Troll is now anyone who says things simply to get a rise out of someone else. Go on the Oprah forums and say "OPRAH IS FAT", and anyone who gets mad and doesn't realize it's a joke "just got trolled".
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:38 PM

More 'trolling for a rise' that was morphed into the more common usage.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

Out! Back to the seventies! Back! There's no place for you here in the future! Get back while you still can!
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:37 PM

They should make pencil sharpeners large enough to accommodate the penis.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:48 PM

It's the shortened term for a tootsie roll ain't it?
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:22 PM

View Postworrywort, on 23 September 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

They should make pencil sharpeners large enough to accommodate the penis.


Just a sec...I thought they did?
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:12 AM

I dunno, but if you keep it up you might find out whether our CoC considers you one or not, OT. :rolleyes:
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:09 AM

View PostTes, on 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.



This.
A troll is someone saying something 'controversial' or outright stupid for a response. The people that respond are little fishies that got caught (in the bullshit). However, as I've noticed, sometimes people are unwitting trolls via stupidity in which case they're not trolls but brownies (annoying and stupid isn't forced but innate).
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:28 AM

Amid all the explanations of an internet troll, hasn't anyone stopped the think that he KNOWS what a troll is? He's trolling you goddamnit, can't you see that?! You're describing to him exactly what he's doing to you!
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:35 AM

You don't say!?!
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:22 AM

I am grateful to the multitudes for responding in a sane, thoughtful manner, considering that their is always a chance that I am unaware of what a troll is. I thank you, for I have received many suggestions. I will now proceed to address these opinions in the form of a paper, submit it for peer review and get a final opinion (though I hear this wiki thing has answers - i know only of sukuma wiki, a Kenyan dish).

I do, however, conclude that troll is a multifaceted term with multiple connotations - from fishing to fairy tales to this internet thing.

I shall now proceed to address the many points members of my dominion have raised. I am, after all, the undisputed liege.

View PostAin, on 23 September 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

I think the term troll originated more from the old fable, because internet trolls appear out of nowhere and can depart again just as quickly. Ducking back under their bridge, if you will.


I never thought of it from that perspective. Thank you for enlightening me. A cookie to you! And you shall pass free henceforth on this bridge.

View Postchris777, on 23 September 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

Yes, and the term has morphed. A Troll is now anyone who says things simply to get a rise out of someone else. Go on the Oprah forums and say "OPRAH IS FAT", and anyone who gets mad and doesn't realize it's a joke "just got trolled".


An interesting experiment. I did actually go to a Rush Limbaugh forum (they exist. period.) and said he is a crazy batshit consuming specimen of the worst Neanderthals have to offer. Which was true. I still was called a troll.

View PostIlluyankas, on 23 September 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

More 'trolling for a rise' that was morphed into the more common usage.


I don't comprehend that. Insane fowl, explain this here statement.

View PostTes, on 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.


They do? I'd assume fish are scared to death, float to the surface and are scooped away in a KFC bucket? Of course, I tried scaring the fish but the fish boss, who happens to be a shark, bit a rather crucial part of me away.

View PostRodeoRanch, on 23 September 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Out! Back to the seventies! Back! There's no place for you here in the future! Get back while you still can!


You, sir, have hurt me. Dreadfully. My heart is broken. Its pieces are strewn apart like those of a jigsaw puzzle and I do not know how to solve a jigsaw puzzle. A time machine, please. I'd like to go back to the golden seventies.

View Postworrywort, on 23 September 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

They should make pencil sharpeners large enough to accommodate the penis.


I assume you speak from experience? I wouldn't know.

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 23 September 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

It's the shortened term for a tootsie roll ain't it?


What's that? The troll staple food?

View PostJade-Green Pig-Hog Swine-Beast, on 23 September 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

View Postworrywort, on 23 September 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

They should make pencil sharpeners large enough to accommodate the penis.


Just a sec...I thought they did?


I have to inform you that you are unfortunately endowed. Apologies. Please don't kill yourself.

View PostSilencer, on 24 September 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

I dunno, but if you keep it up you might find out whether our CoC considers you one or not, OT. :rolleyes:


Ah, your Administrativeness. I bow before your wisdom. This was an honest question, please believe me. Who is this CoC fellow you speak of?

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View PostTes, on 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.



This.
A troll is someone saying something 'controversial' or outright stupid for a response. The people that respond are little fishies that got caught (in the bullshit). However, as I've noticed, sometimes people are unwitting trolls via stupidity in which case they're not trolls but brownies (annoying and stupid isn't forced but innate).




So, you are a little fishy?

View PostJade-Green Pig-Hog Swine-Beast, on 24 September 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

Amid all the explanations of an internet troll, hasn't anyone stopped the think that he KNOWS what a troll is? He's trolling you goddamnit, can't you see that?! You're describing to him exactly what he's doing to you!


I don't, O master of swine, I honestly don't. And I would not dare insult my senpais like this.

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 24 September 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

You don't say!?!


Explain it to him, please. Ignorance is, after all, not bliss.
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 08:25 PM

Bump for relevance.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:33 AM

View PostBaco Xtath, on 24 September 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

View PostTes, on 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.



This.
A troll is someone saying something 'controversial' or outright stupid for a response. The people that respond are little fishies that got caught (in the bullshit). However, as I've noticed, sometimes people are unwitting trolls via stupidity in which case they're not trolls but brownies (annoying and stupid isn't forced but innate).


Trolling is not a type of fishing, I believe you're thinking of trawling.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:35 AM

Not to be confused with J.K. Trowling, author of Harry Potter and the Painfully Eager Newbies.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 30 September 2012 - 01:35 AM

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 12:56 PM

View PostShiara, on 30 September 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

View PostBaco Xtath, on 24 September 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

View PostTes, on 23 September 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Trolling is also a type of fishing, with big nets. Trolls tend to cast a very wide net when trying to get a rise.



This.
A troll is someone saying something 'controversial' or outright stupid for a response. The people that respond are little fishies that got caught (in the bullshit). However, as I've noticed, sometimes people are unwitting trolls via stupidity in which case they're not trolls but brownies (annoying and stupid isn't forced but innate).


Trolling is not a type of fishing, I believe you're thinking of trawling.



Oh.............right. Alrighty, then it's a confusion of the term. I wasn't sure where the term originally came from years ago and someone explained it as such and it made sense. Trolls fish for responses so the trawling/trolling makes sense, even if it is wrong.

Edit: Cause I'm a spelling champ and a practicing idiot.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:25 PM

What's a buttfor?
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:31 PM

I know this one!
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