[Korvalain]

Fener, on 28 September 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

Spite, on 28 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

@ my above post... I see Korv as faction more than assassin.

He might be a faction. You guys seem to be forgetting that assassins are taking over peoples bodies. Killing them is potentially killing factions. If Korv is faction, he's not Ouchi, because he was fine with culture hunting them, and he's not Amako, or he would know who their leader is. So he's either that shogun clan, hosokawa, or assassin in it's first body, or already in a faction body. The thing is, all those dead assassins, and we're not exactly sure who's dead from which faction. I'm thinking Emurlahn was Ouchi, though.

I am pretty sure that Hannya had already jumped to Emurlahn when we started connecting him to Ouchi, so I think that we have to be careful about assumptions like this one.

[Fener]

Korvalain, on 28 September 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Fener, on 28 September 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

Spite, on 28 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

@ my above post... I see Korv as faction more than assassin.

He might be a faction. You guys seem to be forgetting that assassins are taking over peoples bodies. Killing them is potentially killing factions. If Korv is faction, he's not Ouchi, because he was fine with culture hunting them, and he's not Amako, or he would know who their leader is. So he's either that shogun clan, hosokawa, or assassin in it's first body, or already in a faction body. The thing is, all those dead assassins, and we're not exactly sure who's dead from which faction. I'm thinking Emurlahn was Ouchi, though.

I am pretty sure that Hannya had already jumped to Emurlahn when we started connecting him to Ouchi, so I think that we have to be careful about assumptions like this one.

I'm not basing it on thinking he was Ouchi pre-death. I'm thinking he was Ouchi because of the lynch scene. He told the Ouchi general he would continue to serve, implying that he has served him up until then. Are you suggesting that the Ouchi general had control of the assassin? He either had the assassin working for him, or Emurlahn had been Ouchi. The scene also implied he was wearing makeup. Potentially a disguise to look human, or like a specific human.

[Korvalain]

Fener, on 28 September 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 28 September 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Fener, on 28 September 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

Spite, on 28 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

@ my above post... I see Korv as faction more than assassin.

He might be a faction. You guys seem to be forgetting that assassins are taking over peoples bodies. Killing them is potentially killing factions. If Korv is faction, he's not Ouchi, because he was fine with culture hunting them, and he's not Amako, or he would know who their leader is. So he's either that shogun clan, hosokawa, or assassin in it's first body, or already in a faction body. The thing is, all those dead assassins, and we're not exactly sure who's dead from which faction. I'm thinking Emurlahn was Ouchi, though.

I am pretty sure that Hannya had already jumped to Emurlahn when we started connecting him to Ouchi, so I think that we have to be careful about assumptions like this one.

I'm not basing it on thinking he was Ouchi pre-death. I'm thinking he was Ouchi because of the lynch scene. He told the Ouchi general he would continue to serve, implying that he has served him up until then. Are you suggesting that the Ouchi general had control of the assassin? He either had the assassin working for him, or Emurlahn had been Ouchi. The scene also implied he was wearing makeup. Potentially a disguise to look human, or like a specific human.

Sorry, you're right, he was probably Ouchi. I forgot about the death scene. 9 hour work days really drain my ability to think straight. So Ouchi is potentially down two members.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 13 hours and 27 minutes are left in the day.

9 players are left alive.


Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Karosis: Korvalain
1 vote Korvalain: Fener

Players not voting: Karosis, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

Timer will freeze when there are 12 hours left.

[Korvalain]

Heh, 2 mins till freeze, and nothing.

[Path-Shaper]

Consider the timer frozen with 12 hours left on the clock. Voting and conversation is allowed.

[Fener]

It's one thing to be a low-poster, but this on a major scale is getting annoying. There's too many of you not participating nearly enough. You might answer along the lines of "who is to say how much participation is enough?" I would reply that it varies from game to game, but I think we've set a fairly decent pace to be able to keep up with, and half of us aren't helping nearly enough. I have been against this the whole game, but if people keep posting once or twice a day to not get mod-killed, and then wait for the last 5 hours EVERYDAY before finally voting, then we're getting nowhere SLOWLY.

I'm not really into going for low-posters, so I'm only asking for you guys to step it up, at least a bit, and stop waiting until last minute to vote. It's just stretching out the days. If we were waiting and getting more information for doing so, then I'd understand, but no one is really saying much at all, except for 3 or 4 people, so waiting until last minute is just wasting time.

PS said we could still vote, so let's at LEAST have our lynch taken care of this weekend, so that as soon as game restarts, PS can settle Day and Night 6 right away. He may settle the lynch and night as soon as we finish voting, then the clock stays frozen at the beginning of Day 7.

This post has been edited by Fener: 29 September 2012 - 04:52 AM

[Karosis]

Korvalain, on 28 September 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

So seeing as Korbas was NK'd, and ended up being an assassin, I'm gonna go back to yesterday's lynch for information, seeing as I think it's high time we start a culture hunt! So one of the things that has my panties in a bunch is this:

Karosis, on 25 September 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Wasn't able to post this weekend, so I'm glad that it was slow. I'd post some opinions now, but I will be waiting for the CF/to see if an extra vote is needed first.

Firstly, he said he'd be around to lay an extra vote if it was needed, but it wasn't him that hammered Galain, it was Meanas.

Secondly, he could have just laid the vote down. If it hadn't been needed, his vote would not have shown on the lynch list. If it was needed, then it would have.

I think Karosis was just trying to make it seem like he would vote Galain if it was necessary, but he didn't actually want to, so he made it seem like Meanas beat him to it, so as to lay the suspicion on Meanas rather than himself. So, I am thinking that Karosis is probably an Ouchi clan member.

Do we know if Captain would be the leader of a team? Gonna have to go look at some past games again, see if I can get some info there.

I am gonna come back to this because I still think it's our best bet to hit another faction member. I thought it three days ago, but none of you will listen to me, cause I guess Osseric has convinced most of you that I am an assassin, but hey, I'll keep pushing. All YOUR choices have been assassins, so I think it's time you guys get your heads out of your asses and try something different.



So, against the above case, Karosis responded with this:

Karosis, on 26 September 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

For some reason I missed that the name count in lynch scenes ends when there are enough votes, regardless of the number of voters. At the lynch there were twelve hours and forty minutes left in the day. If I was on Galain's team, what does not voting him accomplish? With that much time left and no other cases being considered, there was no chance Galain survived. If anything, the better course for a teammate would have been to drop their vote immediately, knowing there would be an attempted culture hunt after a faction member was lynched.

Of course, anyone knowing for certain that he was on their team would mean that he was a leader. Not sure I buy that from his posting and voting history.

…which, obviously, I think is a load of crap. The lynch only showing the amount it takes to lynch thing is something I learned in my very first non M&P game.



Anyway, aside from that, Karosis has kept an extremely low profile the last couple of days. He pipes in just enough to not get mod-killed, but the content is nearly nil:

Karosis, on 26 September 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Not much time at the moment, so in the interest of gaining info and self preservation:

Vote Osseric

Karosis, on 27 September 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Wow, 17 hours left and L-2 (or should we just assume that extra votes are still needed and call it L-3?) already.

As others have said, good catch on the two assassins having the same name. Will give some thought on that.

Karosis, on 27 September 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

I am willing to vote Emu bsaed on the even things up comment alone, so before I head off:

Vote Emurlahn

So how's about we try something different today, and vote Karosis for once.



Vote Karosis


Edit: Remove tags

So, you responded to one part of my defence. Finally someone at least does that instead of voting me without acknowledging it. But, only part. Do you honestly think there was any way that Galain could have survived and that there was any fucking way that whichever way I voted would have had any influence on that with that much fucking time left in the day? Why the fuck would I have not hammered to distance if he was on my team? Jesus Christ..

You are one of three or four people who has voted for me for the same basic shit for the last few days and none of you have ever adressed that. Is it because you know your reasoning is bullshit?

[Karosis]

In response to your post Fener I quote OE:

Olar Ethil, on 28 September 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Half the time I am able to post it's night because you folks get so lynch happy. Regardless, whenever I come on I throw my thoughts out there.

Some of us who play can only post at certains times of the day, and for only short periods. This game, the nights have been long and the days have been short, so there are going to be people who post even less than usual. Like OE, most of the times I have logged in it has either been night or the thread has been waiting for PS to confirm a lynch. Does anyone post lots then?

And last minute to make a vote? Seriously? None of the recent lynches have gone down to the wire. Not even close. Last five hours, my god! I usually see them come down in the last five minutes. Maybe people aren't jumping on trains as quickly as you want, because they are fucking asleep, stuck in fucking traffic, living a fucking life away from a computer or at fucking work where they don't have net access or sites like this are blocked.

If you don't want people like that to play, fine. I'll stop playing (it has gotten me lynched often enough for not being on in time to defend that I'm halfway there anyway). But for fuck sakes, realise that some of the people who play aren't able to be on all the time so bitching about not voting early enough to suit your whims is fucking retarded.

[Olar Ethil]

Fener, on 29 September 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

It's one thing to be a low-poster, but this on a major scale is getting annoying. There's too many of you not participating nearly enough. You might answer along the lines of "who is to say how much participation is enough?" I would reply that it varies from game to game, but I think we've set a fairly decent pace to be able to keep up with, and half of us aren't helping nearly enough. I have been against this the whole game, but if people keep posting once or twice a day to not get mod-killed, and then wait for the last 5 hours EVERYDAY before finally voting, then we're getting nowhere SLOWLY.

I'm not really into going for low-posters, so I'm only asking for you guys to step it up, at least a bit, and stop waiting until last minute to vote. It's just stretching out the days. If we were waiting and getting more information for doing so, then I'd understand, but no one is really saying much at all, except for 3 or 4 people, so waiting until last minute is just wasting time.

PS said we could still vote, so let's at LEAST have our lynch taken care of this weekend, so that as soon as game restarts, PS can settle Day and Night 6 right away. He may settle the lynch and night as soon as we finish voting, then the clock stays frozen at the beginning of Day 7.

blah blah blah post more blah blah blah

vote Fener

screw you hippie, I play when I can. I'M sick of asshats who have a ton of time trying to dictate others posting style. So, there ya go. I am voting you. enjoy.

[Olar Ethil]

FYI, my vote isn't completely me being a dick. I am 90% sure Fener isn't on my team based on 2 specific posts... so I am happy to vote him. 2 birds. One stone.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 12 hours are left in the day. Timer is frozen. All lynches will be resolved, and night as well if everyone happens to get their actions in. But there is no mod-kill, and no night resolution without all provs.

9 players are left alive.


Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Karosis: Korvalain
1 vote Korvalain: Fener
1 vote Fener: Olar Ethil

Players not voting: Karosis, Liosan, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

[Fener]

Olar Ethil, on 29 September 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

Fener, on 29 September 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

It's one thing to be a low-poster, but this on a major scale is getting annoying. There's too many of you not participating nearly enough. You might answer along the lines of "who is to say how much participation is enough?" I would reply that it varies from game to game, but I think we've set a fairly decent pace to be able to keep up with, and half of us aren't helping nearly enough. I have been against this the whole game, but if people keep posting once or twice a day to not get mod-killed, and then wait for the last 5 hours EVERYDAY before finally voting, then we're getting nowhere SLOWLY.

I'm not really into going for low-posters, so I'm only asking for you guys to step it up, at least a bit, and stop waiting until last minute to vote. It's just stretching out the days. If we were waiting and getting more information for doing so, then I'd understand, but no one is really saying much at all, except for 3 or 4 people, so waiting until last minute is just wasting time.

PS said we could still vote, so let's at LEAST have our lynch taken care of this weekend, so that as soon as game restarts, PS can settle Day and Night 6 right away. He may settle the lynch and night as soon as we finish voting, then the clock stays frozen at the beginning of Day 7.

blah blah blah post more blah blah blah

vote Fener

screw you hippie, I play when I can. I'M sick of asshats who have a ton of time trying to dictate others posting style. So, there ya go. I am voting you. enjoy.

I asked that everyone "post a bit more." There's nothing wrong with me asking for more help. I didn't threaten anyone or be a dick by calling out anyone specific or calling people names like 'asshat.' If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is. If I 'ask' for people to help more, they either will or won't. It's as simple as that. Thanks for being complete dickheads to me for asking that we start to pick up the pace 'just a bit.' It definitely isn't enough to get neither of those reactions, which were FAR worse than my simple request. Vote for me if you want. It's not going to hurt my feelings. Do what you have to do. I actually thought you were one of the top candidates for being in my faction, so thanks for clearing that up for me. If you're almost positive I'm not in your faction, then that's the best case I have on anyone not being in mine. I voted Korv because I thougt he was the best chance at not being in my faction, but I wasn't 90% sure like you are, and 90% is better than my other cases, so we must not be in the same faction.

remove vote
Vote Olar

He is almost positive I'm not in his faction, so he must not be in mine.

[Fener]

Korv, I'm asking you because you are the only other person with a vote down so far.

How strongly do you feel about your Karosis case? I was pretty unsure about Karosis and haven't been able to get a decent read on him, but his hard reaction to my post makes me believe he might not be in my faction. It's not as. strong as the 90% Olar gave me, but I may be willing to switch if I need to. Like I said, I'm really not sure about Karosis, yet, so how do you feel about Olar?

Tellan, I value your opinion as well, what do you think about Karosis and Olar? I just hope Olar is right, and ur don't let his mean attitude cause him to judge incorrectly. He seems to have kept his posts serious, so I'm inclined to trust his judgement, but I'm not going to waste my vote if no one else feels the same.

Spite, are you set on Karosis, or do you have any other choices?

Sorrit? Meanas? Liosan? What do you guys think?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 12 hours are left in the day. Timer is frozen.

9 players are left alive.


Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Karosis: Korvalain
1 vote Fener: Olar Ethil
1 vote Olar Ethil: Fener

Players not voting: Karosis, Liosan, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

[Liosan]

My vote for the moment goes to Sorrit. He is right in the middle of the pack for posters, but I honestly can't remember a single fucking thing he has said. One of the few people I have literally no read on.

Vote Sorrit

I will be around on and off this weekend so this can change if a real case comes up. I'm not adverse to voting low posters at this stage, although I've been in the same boat Karosis is claiming. Night has been during my main posting time pretty often this game. Maybe I'm old school, but I dont post at night. I'm liable to give Karosis an out for now to see if he manages to actually post this weekend more than 2 posts a day.

The Olar thing just reeks of counter-voting.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 12 hours are left in the day. Timer is frozen.

9 players are left alive.


Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Karosis: Korvalain
1 vote Fener: Olar Ethil
1 vote Olar Ethil: Fener
1 vote Sorrit: Liosan

Players not voting: Karosis, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

[Fener]

It is counter voting, but if he's right, then it works out in my best interest. He said two of my posts proved I wasn't in his faction, so that's good enough for me. But yes, it is also counter voting, but since his vote for me was anger voting, and not a vote he would have laid down until he got mad, I am ok with it.

With that said, I really wasn't trying to piss people off. It was a request. People could either choose to honor my request or ignore it. I didn't expect anything more. So, for now -

remove vote

I'm.going to bed soon, but I've been re-reading a few things, and I might post my thoughts before I sleep, if I can. I've noticed a few minor things I'd like everyone to look at.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 12 hours are left in the day. Timer is frozen.

9 players are left alive.


Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Karosis: Korvalain
1 vote Fener: Olar Ethil
1 vote Sorrit: Liosan

Players not voting: Fener, Karosis, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


At home, drinking alone on a Saturday night. Keep me company if you will...

[Spite]

@fener - I can see Karosis as coming back another assassin, so I'm looking for other options. I like the sorrit option and OE. Both give me a faction vibe.


Fixing spellcheck craziness.

This post has been edited by Spite: 29 September 2012 - 12:28 PM