[Spite]

Olar Ethil, on 08 September 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

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Ha! I am fully aware of such things - it's one thing to act on these kinds of feelings and it's completely another thing to talk about them on-thread. Both are wrong in the spirit of mafia but the latter is far more wrong and defeats the purpose of alts. Whatever, I'm trying to go with the flow here but understand it is bloody difficult - you're not playing the same game - you should call it something else, imo. No matter. We got insanely lucky in lynching a killer - in a way it's bad in the long term because it might validate a lot of poor play for some of you.

Anyway, we did get lucky and have a good deal of breathing space now - we can get it wrong for a coupla days and still be in a decent position. Awesome. I'm thinking Spite is the symp and Meanas is my chief suspect as the remaining killer - it's late and I've been drinking so I'm not gonna make any cases or go hard at anybody just now but D'riss is on my radar as well - just a hunch. Forgive me for being cagey but I still don't know what the weekend break rules are

That's an odd killer- symp combo. I understand you have been drinking, but what made you come up with that?

Weekend rules are usually just a timer freeze. Posting is allowed, as well as voting.

Odd? why do you think so?

I see Spite reacting to my assault on Karosis in a very sympish manner - it's there for anyone to look at and form their own opinions - as far as my suspicion of you, it's a hunch, something in your early play stuck out for me, to be honest, I don't quite remember what it was, but it's there, amongst the relentless spam. Lots of free time now so I will revisit it and put it in more definitive terms if someone else doesn't do it first.

Also, your attitude irritates me mightily.

Okay. Why would I (If I was a symp ) defend Karosis against a day1 OMGUS case?
Just curious. I want to understand this. (as you are obviously Mr.Pro )#

Edit: shit, double post...

This post has been edited by Spite: 10 September 2012 - 01:55 PM

[Spite]

Olar Ethil, on 08 September 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

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Ha! I am fully aware of such things - it's one thing to act on these kinds of feelings and it's completely another thing to talk about them on-thread. Both are wrong in the spirit of mafia but the latter is far more wrong and defeats the purpose of alts. Whatever, I'm trying to go with the flow here but understand it is bloody difficult - you're not playing the same game - you should call it something else, imo. No matter. We got insanely lucky in lynching a killer - in a way it's bad in the long term because it might validate a lot of poor play for some of you.

Anyway, we did get lucky and have a good deal of breathing space now - we can get it wrong for a coupla days and still be in a decent position. Awesome. I'm thinking Spite is the symp and Meanas is my chief suspect as the remaining killer - it's late and I've been drinking so I'm not gonna make any cases or go hard at anybody just now but D'riss is on my radar as well - just a hunch. Forgive me for being cagey but I still don't know what the weekend break rules are

That's an odd killer- symp combo. I understand you have been drinking, but what made you come up with that?

Weekend rules are usually just a timer freeze. Posting is allowed, as well as voting.

Odd? why do you think so?

I see Spite reacting to my assault on Karosis in a very sympish manner - it's there for anyone to look at and form their own opinions - as far as my suspicion of you, it's a hunch, something in your early play stuck out for me, to be honest, I don't quite remember what it was, but it's there, amongst the relentless spam. Lots of free time now so I will revisit it and put it in more definitive terms if someone else doesn't do it first.

Also, your attitude irritates me mightily.

Okay. Why would I (If I was a symp ) defend Karosis against a day1 OMGUS case?
Just curious. I want to understand this. (as you are obviously Mr.Pro )

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 28 hours 53 minutes remaining.

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Meanas: Olar Ethil, Emurlahn

Players not voted: D'riss, Galain, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

The game is unfrozen.

[Korbas]

Vote for meanas

He didnt vote for karo and he already has 2 votes on him and lio said he was going to vote for him aswell

[Liosan]

Spite, on 04 September 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Karosis, on 04 September 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

There it is again. Can you speak like a civilised person?, its hard to take you seriously with the way you're talking.

Ok im really quite uncomfortably warm with my laptop on my lap, i had contacts in which were starting to itch, ive had a few cans of cider and i was making dinner. Missing half a sentence in your block is an easy mistake to make, especially as it doesnt make what i said any less relevant.

In fact i think you're getting way to worked up about this.

Vote Olar Ethil


Because he's reacting very much like i attacked him on thread when all i did was a slight comment. This seems very oversensitive, like he might have something to hide.

Guys. pls stop OMGUSing each other. Spam or RP is better than this. This kinda voting is just not cool. (and its screaming "distancing" in my mind.)
I don't get you Karo. he edited " ETA: I'm curious whether you read my post at all " or something like this. I don't think he changed other contents of his posts at all.(I did not see it before edit so I can't be sure.)
If he did, I believe its reason enough for modkill. (I don't think anyone cares about what I believe though)

This dismissal of BOTH Karosis and OE's cases against eachother as just OMGUSing. This dismisses any case either OE or Karo had for eachother as bullshit grudge voting. Spite also never voted for Karo even when that looked like the only lynch that was going to happen.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

two others that I would like the lynch are Ossy and Meanas. Both of them are low posting so I don't have any idea about them.

Oh and btw, Dead Thread Is Dead.

Mentions voting Meanas or Osseric here.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'm back.
I'm gonna vote Sorrit on grounds of low posting/move your lazy ass and give us some opinions .

Vote Sorrit.

I chose Sorrit because he was the most suspicious one. low posting big posts and pretending to post content.

Then decides to keep hounding Sorrit? If you want to talk about posts without content as your reason to vote someone, Osseric fits the bill.

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Ok, I gotta leave soon, so anything you want to discuss (looking at Meanas) should be said within 5 minutes.

This post looks like signalling to me.


It also raised my suspicions when I pointed out the ones that DIDN'T vote Karosis after the Karo lynch, and Spite is still hot to get Sorrit. Sorrit's vote at 3 minutes till timeout just strikes me as too risky a move for a killer's partner to make.

[Liosan]

It took me too long to write that little. Unfortunately, it is Monday and the work calls.

Spite, Korbas and Meanas were all the ones whose votes (or non votes) raised my suspicion when I looked at the vote trains on Friday (posted this a couple pages back). Spite seems more sympish than the other two, so I'd rather go for Meanas.


vote Meanas

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 28 hours 14 minutes remaining.

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

4 votes Meanas: Olar Ethil, Emurlahn, Korbas, Liosan

Players not voted: D'riss, Galain, Meanas, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 10 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

[Spite]

Liosan, on 10 September 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Spite, on 04 September 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Karosis, on 04 September 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

There it is again. Can you speak like a civilised person?, its hard to take you seriously with the way you're talking.

Ok im really quite uncomfortably warm with my laptop on my lap, i had contacts in which were starting to itch, ive had a few cans of cider and i was making dinner. Missing half a sentence in your block is an easy mistake to make, especially as it doesnt make what i said any less relevant.

In fact i think you're getting way to worked up about this.

Vote Olar Ethil


Because he's reacting very much like i attacked him on thread when all i did was a slight comment. This seems very oversensitive, like he might have something to hide.

Guys. pls stop OMGUSing each other. Spam or RP is better than this. This kinda voting is just not cool. (and its screaming "distancing" in my mind.)
I don't get you Karo. he edited " ETA: I'm curious whether you read my post at all " or something like this. I don't think he changed other contents of his posts at all.(I did not see it before edit so I can't be sure.)
If he did, I believe its reason enough for modkill. (I don't think anyone cares about what I believe though)

This dismissal of BOTH Karosis and OE's cases against eachother as just OMGUSing. This dismisses any case either OE or Karo had for eachother as bullshit grudge voting. Spite also never voted for Karo even when that looked like the only lynch that was going to happen.
Check my posting times...
I have not posted before a certain hour in 4 days(real time) because I wake up,attend a couple of classes, then come home and post.I can't post before that time and when I left the night before that,thread hadn't decided about to lynch Karosis yet so I had no reason to vote him ...

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

two others that I would like the lynch are Ossy and Meanas. Both of them are low posting so I don't have any idea about them.

Oh and btw, Dead Thread Is Dead.

Mentions voting Meanas or Osseric here.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'm back.
I'm gonna vote Sorrit on grounds of low posting/move your lazy ass and give us some opinions .

Vote Sorrit.

I chose Sorrit because he was the most suspicious one. low posting big posts and pretending to post content.

Then decides to keep hounding Sorrit? If you want to talk about posts without content as your reason to vote someone, Osseric fits the bill.

Yes, you conveniently forgot to quote my post saying Sorrit was my primary target. It was just before that Ossy and Meanas post.

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Ok, I gotta leave soon, so anything you want to discuss (looking at Meanas) should be said within 5 minutes.

This post looks like signalling to me.
We were having an argument and I was prodding Meanas to answer.You should actually read the thread dude.


It also raised my suspicions when I pointed out the ones that DIDN'T vote Karosis after the Karo lynch, and Spite is still hot to get Sorrit. Sorrit's vote at 3 minutes till timeout just strikes me as too risky a move for a killer's partner to make.
Okay, so what? my gut is telling me to go for Sorrit.

[Spite]

Olar Ethil, on 07 September 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 07 September 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

what is the deal with these weekend breaks? are we not allowed to post? or what? can you say to people who've been citing work reasons for being low posters that they have no excuses now etc.? Anyway, briefly revisiting my initial scrap with Karosis, Spite looks sympish and his latest posts do nothing to ameliorate that impression. I know, I've been his biggest fan until now, just sharing impressions, nothing solid yet...but I was going after Karosis HARD and a symp would have to feel obligated to do something about it and Spite fits the bill imo. If this is true, and forgive me, this is all very rough - IIRC, Spite is accused of shifting from defending low posters to focussing on them. If he's a symp then that tells us something about the behaviour of the other killer - not particularly useful, but something to think about, at least for me. Anyway, we're unbelievably lucky to hit a killer and more interestingly, for the killers to have made such a poor choice for a night-kill target. Seems like a poor target anyway, Korv was suspicious, like really fucking suspicious, so why did they choose him?

I have a theory, but it's mostly meta. When Korv started posting all erratic, I was starting to think I knew that style. Maybe the killers thought the same thing, and just wanted to take him down. Not saying more, because it wouldn't be right.Or, it could be because Korv was all over Karosis ass, and it was revenge from his partner. Mostly, we should look at who else Korv was naming as possible partners to Karosis.

I'm pretty sure you're innocent but this meta stuff is in very poor taste.I have a massive hunch, will explain later.Vote Meanas

You should remove again...
remove votes don't count during weekend breaks...

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 07 September 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 07 September 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

what is the deal with these weekend breaks? are we not allowed to post? or what? can you say to people who've been citing work reasons for being low posters that they have no excuses now etc.? Anyway, briefly revisiting my initial scrap with Karosis, Spite looks sympish and his latest posts do nothing to ameliorate that impression. I know, I've been his biggest fan until now, just sharing impressions, nothing solid yet...but I was going after Karosis HARD and a symp would have to feel obligated to do something about it and Spite fits the bill imo. If this is true, and forgive me, this is all very rough - IIRC, Spite is accused of shifting from defending low posters to focussing on them. If he's a symp then that tells us something about the behaviour of the other killer - not particularly useful, but something to think about, at least for me. Anyway, we're unbelievably lucky to hit a killer and more interestingly, for the killers to have made such a poor choice for a night-kill target. Seems like a poor target anyway, Korv was suspicious, like really fucking suspicious, so why did they choose him?

I have a theory, but it's mostly meta. When Korv started posting all erratic, I was starting to think I knew that style. Maybe the killers thought the same thing, and just wanted to take him down. Not saying more, because it wouldn't be right.Or, it could be because Korv was all over Karosis ass, and it was revenge from his partner. Mostly, we should look at who else Korv was naming as possible partners to Karosis.

I'm pretty sure you're innocent but this meta stuff is in very poor taste.I have a massive hunch, will explain later.Vote Meanas

You're right about the meta stuff, and I apologize, but even you, Olar, used meta in your argument with Karosis in your early brawl when you accused him of being a certain alt. So yeah, we'll just leave it out of all of our future posts.As for Meanas, I was thinking his lack of voting on day 1, except for his joke D'riss vote, plus his lack of voting Karosis lends credibility to my also wanting to vote Meanas.remove voteVote Measnas

So, how is voting because of "lack of voting" better than low poster voting?

Korbas, on 10 September 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Vote for meanasHe didnt vote for karo and he already has 2 votes on him and lio said he was going to vote for him aswell

This guy ,
He followed Sorrit's vote day 1.
iirc, didn't vote day2.
Is voting for Meanas,reasons :
1. he already has 2 votes on him . (he actually has one because OE removed during the break )
2. he didn't vote for Karosis.(he didn't vote for Karosis himself )

So With his logic, if 2 votes were on him, he would vote himself...

Vote Korbas



because he is a lazy little shit , who will vote for anyone . Seems like excellent scum play.

[Liosan]

@Spite - It was the way you worded your response to Meanas. I saw your 'argument'. If Meanas is a killer, it wouldn't be the first time that a killer has gone after their own symp yes?


So is your gut still telling you to go after Sorrit? What about Meanas or Korbas?

[Spite]

Liosan, on 10 September 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

@Spite - It was the way you worded your response to Meanas. I saw your 'argument'. If Meanas is a killer, it wouldn't be the first time that a killer has gone after their own symp yes?


So is your gut still telling you to go after Sorrit? What about Meanas or Korbas?

See above vote about who I think should be lynched ...

My post meant: Meanas where is your answer? I gotta go .
I don't understand why you think my post was signalling.

Don't 'Argument' me.

[Liosan]

Spite, on 10 September 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Liosan, on 10 September 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

@Spite - It was the way you worded your response to Meanas. I saw your 'argument'. If Meanas is a killer, it wouldn't be the first time that a killer has gone after their own symp yes?


So is your gut still telling you to go after Sorrit? What about Meanas or Korbas?

See above vote about who I think should be lynched ...

My post meant: Meanas where is your answer? I gotta go .
I don't understand why you think my post was signalling.

Don't 'Argument' me.

LOL I can 'argument' you all I want!

Korbas' voting and lack thereof is rather suspicious. I could vote either way of Korbas or Meanas.

remove vote

Plenty of time to discuss.

[Galain]

I also thought that Korbas vote was strange. I only skimmed so far, will be a while before I can properly read. Tonight or tomorrow, hopefully.

[Korbas]

Spite, on 10 September 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 September 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Vote for meanasHe didnt vote for karo and he already has 2 votes on him and lio said he was going to vote for him aswell

This guy ,
He followed Sorrit's vote day 1.
iirc, didn't vote day2.
Is voting for Meanas,reasons :
1. he already has 2 votes on him . (he actually has one because OE removed during the break )
2. he didn't vote for Karosis.(he didn't vote for Karosis himself )

So With his logic, if 2 votes were on him, he would vote himself...

Vote Korbas



because he is a lazy little shit , who will vote for anyone . Seems like excellent scum play.

I said I would happily vote for any of the four who didn't vote for karo, then a few hours later when time unfroze I voted for the only one of those four with votes,

as to point one, if you are going to accept OE is removing his vote, why are you not accepting Lio's vote which was also during the weekend?

If lio re put on his vote, my vote on meanas would of put him at 4 votes in total, not 2, if OE then took away his vote that would put meanas on 3.

EDIT FOR SPELLING

This post has been edited by Korbas: 10 September 2012 - 05:03 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 26 hours 19 minutes remaining.

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 votes Meanas: Olar Ethil, Emurlahn, Korbas
1 vote Korbas: Spite

Players not voted: D'riss, Galain, Liosan, Meanas, Osseric, Sorrit

Just a point - all votes were the same at the time of unfreeze as they were at the time of freeze. All vote updates made after I unfroze the game have been noted. This is the current vote count, there are no mistakes.

[Korbas]

Theres alot of anons on at the moment, does no one have anything to say?

[Emurlahn]

I'm here, reading over some things again. I still tend to lean towards Meanas for our best choice for scum. Also, Olar made an odd post where he voted Meanas and said he had a theory about it, and would explain later. I still want to hear from him. It seems to me that someone not on Karosis train would have been scum, only because of the odd, rushed nature of the lynch train. It really didn't seem like the normal type of lynch train, where another scum could have jumped on trying to distance themselves, because the voting was SO CLOSE that it took liosans vote with like 30 secs left, just to get the lynch. I can't see someone being THAT bold as to put Karosis at lynch risk, especially since he wasn't even really a big suspect, and probably wouldn't have even been looked at the next day had his lynch failed.

With that said, I'm not completely ruling out the end of the lynch train, and would still be willing to look at one of the first three Karosis votes, but mainly at the ones who didn't vote Karosis.

[Osseric]

this day is evil, filthy work - had to subtly threaten the secretary's employment to try to see if she can improve her performance before she gets fired, i hate crap like that

I need to read up on the last 4 pages before I can say anything remotely productive

@Emurlahn - I do recall the post from OE, I also would like to know what he meant

[D'riss]

back again.

I had no vote on Karosis because I wasnt about when the train hit afair.
Of the potential targets being touted today, myself excluded, I don't actually fancy any of them that much for a lynch, but Meanas would get my vote gun to my head. We have 26 hours, I'll be around the next 10 then gone for 20 I'll guess, but I'm in no way inclined to drop a vote now.
Just realised my vote didn't count due to the weekend break situation. No-one else seems to want to bite on a Sorrit vote, so be it, but if anyones interested in that route I'm very much game for it

[Olar Ethil]

got a bit of a crisis here, hard for me to get on, will be back ASAP.