[Sorrit]

Sorrit, on 05 September 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:

I'm here!

I'd rather not get into the pissing match, because it looks like two RIs butting heads, to me, but I find Spite's suggestion that it is "distancing" interesting. Is there any reason other than the argument itself to suggest that this is the case? Because otherwise the impression I get is that it is simply an argument based on differing opinions, some mis-reading, and some plain old grumpiness.

Also, Emurlahn comments that it is good we are getting straight to the main discussion, but then actually contributes nothing. Helpful.

Here.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 12 hours 2 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn: Karosis
1 vote Liosan: Korvalain
1 vote Sorrit: Spite
1 vote Karosis: Olar Ethil

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Korbas, Liosan, Meanas, Osseric, Sorrit

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 September 2012 - 01:38 AM

[Spite]

Remove vote

Vote Osseric

He is next in line.

[Osseric]

Sorrit, on 07 September 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

actually I have been reading the previous 324 posts trying to do just that, but this pesky occupation has other plans

I can't shake the feeling that somehow the spat with OE & Karo was somehow fake-ish, or staged. It just doesn't feel authentic. Someone (Spite?) said it could have been distancing, and that could be true. Perhaps making some distance between partners while creating a history that will keep them from seeming to avoid interaction, standard killer partner strategy.

I don't understand where this idea that the agrument was staged is coming from. Spite and now Osseric have floated 'feelings' and 'thoughts' on the matter, but nothing suggests to me that that argument was staged. Have you seen any other evidence that suggests OE and Karo are paired, or are scum? Because otherwise this is just baseless speculation. Spite didn't answer when I questioned him about it.

That;s just how it seemed to me. Evidence? No, or I'd try to make a case with it.

[Meanas]

Osseric, on 06 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

actually I have been reading the previous 324 posts trying to do just that, but this pesky occupation has other plans

I can't shake the feeling that somehow the spat with OE & Karo was somehow fake-ish, or staged. It just doesn't feel authentic. Someone (Spite?) said it could have been distancing, and that could be true. Perhaps making some distance between partners while creating a history that will keep them from seeming to avoid interaction, standard killer partner strategy.

Oh, yes. That whole convo must have been faked. I mean, it just doesn't feel authentic!
And, to further prove your point, it was the first round! That's the absolute perfect time to plan and execute a special fake convo just to convince everyone that those two aren't paired killers!

How could we have missed this?

[Osseric]

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

actually I have been reading the previous 324 posts trying to do just that, but this pesky occupation has other plans

I can't shake the feeling that somehow the spat with OE & Karo was somehow fake-ish, or staged. It just doesn't feel authentic. Someone (Spite?) said it could have been distancing, and that could be true. Perhaps making some distance between partners while creating a history that will keep them from seeming to avoid interaction, standard killer partner strategy.

Oh, yes. That whole convo must have been faked. I mean, it just doesn't feel authentic!
And, to further prove your point, it was the first round! That's the absolute perfect time to plan and execute a special fake convo just to convince everyone that those two aren't paired killers!

How could we have missed this?

Hmmm, something doesn't feel right about this post, maybe there's too much echo from the arse it issued from, maybe that's why it was missed!

[Meanas]

Olar Ethil, on 06 September 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

actually I have been reading the previous 324 posts trying to do just that, but this pesky occupation has other plans

I can't shake the feeling that somehow the spat with OE & Karo was somehow fake-ish, or staged. It just doesn't feel authentic. Someone (Spite?) said it could have been distancing, and that could be true. Perhaps making some distance between partners while creating a history that will keep them from seeming to avoid interaction, standard killer partner strategy.

Interesting that this is your first mention of this idea that Karosis and I were faking our little scrap and you claim an inability to 'shake the feeling', implying that you've had this feeling for some time now - why not mention it before? Anyway, that's cool. You know what? I agree with you - I'm pretty sure that one of me and Karosis is on the wrong side, perhaps even both of us. Chasing low posters has gotten boring as well. So, I heard that it's now possible to vote for oneself yes? I'll be more than happy to vote for myself if needed but for now, I'm going to

vote Karosis

Wait, are you just voting Karo because somebody put you two together?

I'll look back to see if you have any other reasons, but I would appreciate it if you list all of your reasons for voting when you vote.

[Meanas]

Osseric, on 07 September 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 September 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

actually I have been reading the previous 324 posts trying to do just that, but this pesky occupation has other plans

I can't shake the feeling that somehow the spat with OE & Karo was somehow fake-ish, or staged. It just doesn't feel authentic. Someone (Spite?) said it could have been distancing, and that could be true. Perhaps making some distance between partners while creating a history that will keep them from seeming to avoid interaction, standard killer partner strategy.

Oh, yes. That whole convo must have been faked. I mean, it just doesn't feel authentic!
And, to further prove your point, it was the first round! That's the absolute perfect time to plan and execute a special fake convo just to convince everyone that those two aren't paired killers!

How could we have missed this?

Hmmm, something doesn't feel right about this post, maybe there's too much echo from the arse it issued from, maybe that's why it was missed!

Haha, good one!

[Sorrit]

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Osseric

He is next in line.

Seriously? This is the laziest of lazy play. Are you actually going to join in the discussion, proovide something useful and look for scum? Or is your crusade against low posters so all-consuming that you will follow it regardless of whether you actually think that person is scum or not?

[Spite]

Sorrit, on 07 September 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Osseric

He is next in line.

Seriously? This is the laziest of lazy play. Are you actually going to join in the discussion, proovide something useful and look for scum? Or is your crusade against low posters so all-consuming that you will follow it regardless of whether you actually think that person is scum or not?

Don't you ever learn ?
low posting is not good for town. If we are gonna lynch town (which is the most likely since its only day 2) I prefer we kill a useless town. not someone vocal and useful .
I have my suspicions but I don't have anything to back them up so right now motivating low posters is my priority .

[Osseric]

It's also easier than making cases

[Meanas]

Spite...do I have to say anything?

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I'm here for 10 minutes or so, but I see thread is halfway dead . Right know Sorrit really stands out to me. He is Low posting and getting away with it.

okay, so here he brings attention to Sorrit, because he is committing the grievous crime of "low posting". Spite apparently doesn't like low posters.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 06 September 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Why would you vote Korv, when the whole point was that Korv was symping Mockra? Killing a symp gets us nowhere, unless the voting block made by the killers and the symp is becoming an issue. At this stage of the game it isn't.

When I said that , it was just gut. now, I think It may be possible that Korv picked a low poster and tried to lynch him by fake-symping him. Clearing himself when he came up inno.

Wait, what the hell? Now Spite is saying that voting a low poster is a bad thing, saying it is suspicious. Also, he has now completely forgotten Sorrit and turned to Korv.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

two others that I would like the lynch are Ossy and Meanas. Both of them are low posting so I don't have any idea about them.Oh and btw, Dead Thread Is Dead.

Uh...well, now it seems that low posting is bad again, talking about how he wants to lynch those who are low posting. Also,Che states he doesn't have any idea about them. Wait what?
Shouldn't you lynch people that you think you know are scummy, not people you just don't know anything about? Also changes who he is talking about again.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'm back.I'm gonna vote Sorrit on grounds of low posting/move your lazy ass and give us some opinions .Vote Sorrit.I chose Sorrit because he was the most suspicious one. low posting big posts and pretending to post content.

and we are back to Sorrit, on the grounds of low posting. Didn't you just say in the previous post that you wanted to vote two completely different people for the exact same reason?

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Osseric

He is next in line.

Ok, Spite. What the hell does that even mean?

Vote Spite

edit: fixed quote.

This post has been edited by Meanas: 07 September 2012 - 02:23 AM

[Spite]

Osseric, on 07 September 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

It's also easier than making cases

Is it just because I'm voting you? Post some, do some padding like you did before. don't be that lazy.

Also, I don't wanna join a lynch train that is easy. I can just vote Emur , I won't do that cause I want some info out of a lynch.

[Meanas]

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Osseric, on 07 September 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

It's also easier than making cases

Is it just because I'm voting you? Post some, do some padding like you did before. don't be that lazy.

Also, I don't wanna join a lynch train that is easy. I can just vote Emur , I won't do that cause I want some info out of a lynch.

Yes, because suggesting to vote for three different people in two consecutive posts definitely will get you some good information.

[Osseric]

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Osseric, on 07 September 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

It's also easier than making cases

Is it just because I'm voting you? Post some, do some padding like you did before. don't be that lazy.

Also, I don't wanna join a lynch train that is easy. I can just vote Emur , I won't do that cause I want some info out of a lynch.

ok

[Emurlahn]

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

Galain, on 06 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Probably last time I'll be on tonight.

I withdrew because it's standard mafia practice not to keep someone at L-1, to avoid accidental hammering.

I was third on the train anyway, and promised to be around before time out to place it back.

Steps for you to follow:

1. Read the thread
2. dont omgus (at least not so obvious)
3. read the thread
4. uninstall
5. cry

Very mature, but then again, it is Mafia. I stand by the fact that I found your vote removal, in particular, suspicious, regardless of which order in the train you were, and this nonsense about 'standard mafia practice' is so full of shit. You say you were 3rd or 4th on the Mockra train, yet felt the need to remove when he got to L-1.

I also happen to know damn well that pulling back, and thus moving someone from L-1 is viable in SOME scenarios, but it's not 'standard mafia practice' to ALWAYS remove votes anytime a lynch target hits L-1.
This was not one of the times in which it was required. Mockra wasn't talking, and a few hours isn't exactly a long amount of time. Moreover, it's more common for someone who was the person to put the victim at L-1 or L-2 to be the ones to then change their minds shortly thereafter, and remove their vote IF THEY BECAME UNSURE.

You voted 3rd or 4th. If you weren't voting with the intention of lynching, then why vote? Maybe you just wanted to appear like you were being involved, maybe you weren't. It doesn't matter, what matters is that when Mockra was about to finally be lynched, which you seemed to have wanted to happen, because you know, you voted for him and stuff, you removed your vote. Like I said, only scum knows who is innocent, and it's possible that you didn't want to be on the lynch train of an innocent player all of a sudden. It's not like you replaced your vote, even though you had plenty of time.

I'm not saying this is a dead solid case against you, but it IS suspicions to me, and rightly so. It COULD just be a normal behaviour that came across as suspicios, but this is as good as cases are going right now. The exact same things could be said of your suspicions of me, which in my eyes is plain stupid because my first few posts were just me entering the game, and saying hello. I can't go back and change my posts and place more content in them, but it's horrible that I'm even being looked at as scummy based on such harmless posts.

So in summary, keep the pissy attitude to yourself. It was severely unnecessary just because I felt your vote removal was suspicious, especially when you're suspicions on me are equally small. That failed attempt to look superior,.especially when incorrectly alluding to nonexistent 'mafia practices', just made you look like an asshole. Congratulations, we can now officially stop being intelligent and civil, and move straight to pissy and rude.

Edit - 'pissy' was auto corrected to something else, thus fixed.

Wow. Somebody doesn't like lists.

On all of the things to be suspicious about, you choose this? He just removed his vote so somebody wouldn't lynch Mockra before he had a chance to say something. It's pretty standard Mafia practice.

Also, don't get all mad when somebody says something that makes you feel bad about yourself. Remember, it's just a game. Being immature and rude is part of the fun.

You ass.

Being immature and rude is part of the fun? Maybe for half the players, but that's not how I play. I can't help it that I'm usually one of the lower end posters, and that I prefer to talk to people with kindness and civility, and try to settle things using logic. That's just how I've always played. I don't believe in spastic posting, spreading nonsense, and being generally rude to the other players. Call me the black sheep of the mafia population, if so. So I really don't appreciate your name calling, nor have you earned the right to pipe in on other people's business, because all I see you doing is talking shit about what everyone else is saying or doing. You haven't said or done anything of your own creation, just slammed others for their choices, especially for cases. If you've noticed, we don't have many solid cases out there, and most of them center around low posting and low content. You just let your vote sit on D'riss all of day 1, and didn't do shit to help us with the Mockra case .

Not stooping to responding to your 'You ass' remark with further crass behavior, so instead, have a blessed day, Meanas.

[Spite]

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

Spite...do I have to say anything?

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I'm here for 10 minutes or so, but I see thread is halfway dead . Right know Sorrit really stands out to me. He is Low posting and getting away with it.

okay, so here he brings attention to Sorrit, because he is committing the grievous crime of "low posting". Spite apparently doesn't like low posters.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 06 September 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Why would you vote Korv, when the whole point was that Korv was symping Mockra? Killing a symp gets us nowhere, unless the voting block made by the killers and the symp is becoming an issue. At this stage of the game it isn't.

When I said that , it was just gut. now, I think It may be possible that Korv picked a low poster and tried to lynch him by fake-symping him. Clearing himself when he came up inno.

Wait, what the hell? Now Spite is saying that voting a low poster is a bad thing, saying it is suspicious. Also, he has now completely forgotten Sorrit and turned to Korv.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

two others that I would like the lynch are Ossy and Meanas. Both of them are low posting so I don't have any idea about them.Oh and btw, Dead Thread Is Dead.

Uh...well, now it seems that low posting is bad again, talking about how he wants to lynch those who are low posting. Also,Che states he doesn't have any idea about them. Wait what?
Shouldn't you lynch people that you think you know are scummy, not people you just don't know anything about? Also changes who he is talking about again.

Spite, on 06 September 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'm back.I'm gonna vote Sorrit on grounds of low posting/move your lazy ass and give us some opinions .Vote Sorrit.I chose Sorrit because he was the most suspicious one. low posting big posts and pretending to post content.

and we are back to Sorrit, on the grounds of low posting. Didn't you just say in the previous post that you wanted to vote two completely different people for the exact same reason?

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Osseric

He is next in line.

Ok, Spite. What the hell does that even mean?

Vote Spite

first : Would you like it if we lynched you because a hypothetical Korv was supposedly defending you ?
My problem with Mockra lynch was the aforementioned.
And If you read the thread, you will see that I voted Mockra because of low-posting, not because of Korv.

Second : do you see anything with more merit than a low poster case in the thread ? I have missed it, point it out to me and I will happily vote that way.

Third: The exact reason I want to lynch low posters is that I don't have any idea about them, means they can hide their scumminess in low posting .

Fourth: I voted Sorrit because he was taking the middle way, posting some big posts and at the same time not giving ME any feeling of him . Thats smarter than low posting for a killer, right?

Fifth: all this scrambling because of a post that you weren't even voted in ? (seems familiar, didn't the same thing happen with emur day1 ? )

And last , If you would make such post for a couple of other players, you would be posting content. making you less scummy. right now you have shown that you have the time and ability to do so but just won't . I don't know why , but it seems my useless vote had some effect on the game .

[Spite]

Ok, I gotta leave soon, so anything you want to discuss (looking at Meanas) should be said within 5 minutes.

[Emurlahn]

Spite, on 07 September 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Ok, I gotta leave soon, so anything you want to discuss (looking at Meanas) should be said within 5 minutes.

I don't think Meanas wants to discuss, as much as he just wants to be antagonistic.

[Meanas]

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Meanas, on 07 September 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 07 September 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

Galain, on 06 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Probably last time I'll be on tonight.

I withdrew because it's standard mafia practice not to keep someone at L-1, to avoid accidental hammering.

I was third on the train anyway, and promised to be around before time out to place it back.

Steps for you to follow:

1. Read the thread
2. dont omgus (at least not so obvious)
3. read the thread
4. uninstall
5. cry

Very mature, but then again, it is Mafia. I stand by the fact that I found your vote removal, in particular, suspicious, regardless of which order in the train you were, and this nonsense about 'standard mafia practice' is so full of shit. You say you were 3rd or 4th on the Mockra train, yet felt the need to remove when he got to L-1.

I also happen to know damn well that pulling back, and thus moving someone from L-1 is viable in SOME scenarios, but it's not 'standard mafia practice' to ALWAYS remove votes anytime a lynch target hits L-1.
This was not one of the times in which it was required. Mockra wasn't talking, and a few hours isn't exactly a long amount of time. Moreover, it's more common for someone who was the person to put the victim at L-1 or L-2 to be the ones to then change their minds shortly thereafter, and remove their vote IF THEY BECAME UNSURE.

You voted 3rd or 4th. If you weren't voting with the intention of lynching, then why vote? Maybe you just wanted to appear like you were being involved, maybe you weren't. It doesn't matter, what matters is that when Mockra was about to finally be lynched, which you seemed to have wanted to happen, because you know, you voted for him and stuff, you removed your vote. Like I said, only scum knows who is innocent, and it's possible that you didn't want to be on the lynch train of an innocent player all of a sudden. It's not like you replaced your vote, even though you had plenty of time.

I'm not saying this is a dead solid case against you, but it IS suspicions to me, and rightly so. It COULD just be a normal behaviour that came across as suspicios, but this is as good as cases are going right now. The exact same things could be said of your suspicions of me, which in my eyes is plain stupid because my first few posts were just me entering the game, and saying hello. I can't go back and change my posts and place more content in them, but it's horrible that I'm even being looked at as scummy based on such harmless posts.

So in summary, keep the pissy attitude to yourself. It was severely unnecessary just because I felt your vote removal was suspicious, especially when you're suspicions on me are equally small. That failed attempt to look superior,.especially when incorrectly alluding to nonexistent 'mafia practices', just made you look like an asshole. Congratulations, we can now officially stop being intelligent and civil, and move straight to pissy and rude.

Edit - 'pissy' was auto corrected to something else, thus fixed.

Wow. Somebody doesn't like lists.

On all of the things to be suspicious about, you choose this? He just removed his vote so somebody wouldn't lynch Mockra before he had a chance to say something. It's pretty standard Mafia practice.

Also, don't get all mad when somebody says something that makes you feel bad about yourself. Remember, it's just a game. Being immature and rude is part of the fun.

You ass.

Being immature and rude is part of the fun? Maybe for half the players, but that's not how I play. I can't help it that I'm usually one of the lower end posters, and that I prefer to talk to people with kindness and civility, and try to settle things using logic. That's just how I've always played. I don't believe in spastic posting, spreading nonsense, and being generally rude to the other players. Call me the black sheep of the mafia population, if so. So I really don't appreciate your name calling, nor have you earned the right to pipe in on other people's business, because all I see you doing is talking shit about what everyone else is saying or doing. You haven't said or done anything of your own creation, just slammed others for their choices, especially for cases. If you've noticed, we don't have many solid cases out there, and most of them center around low posting and low content. You just let your vote sit on D'riss all of day 1, and didn't do shit to help us with the Mockra case .

Not stooping to responding to your 'You ass' remark with further crass behavior, so instead, have a blessed day, Meanas.

Thank you for being so mature and civil in the face of blatant rudeness. I'm glad you do this when most others don't.

I'm usually not this rude, it's just that Mafia lets me mess with people more. I actually am usually one of the more bland players, so I felt like I could switch it up. Sorry for calling you an ass.

As for not saying or doing anything of my own creation, well, you got me there. I've really only been spamming this whole game. There aren't any real cases out there, which we can't really help.
The reason I let my vote sit on D'riss all day was because: a, I was gone all day (until after the lynch), and b, it was a joke vote.
Reason a is also the reason I didn't do shit on the Mockra case.

I will now insert a favorite quote of mine...you may have seen it before.
"I don't actually go here...I just have a lot of emotions."