[caladanbrood]

really liked TDTCB and i can see why Erikson liked it too, concentrated quite a bit on the background detail, which is similar to Erikson... Not as good as Erikson, but some intruiging ideas

[RodeoRanch]

In a Internet sense, I guess so!

Unless they're all evil clones?

[vaiski]

Humm.. that good, huh ?
Guess I have to buy them even though I really should try to save some money for a change.
Anyways, is Warrior-Prophet available anywhere outside North America ?
With shipping it'd be CDN$ 46 from amazon.ca.. that's a bit expensive..

[RodeoRanch]

I just picked up the Warrior-Prophet. I didn't even realize it was out yet but I meandered into my local bookstore and there it was!

Cool thing about Loose, Mithfânion, and Ur-Lord being mentioned in the Acknowledgements section, eh!

[Folken]

Well it does change a little bit in WP. The story really takes off in WP. I really enjoy Bakker, true that its not as original as Erikson but it's still better than others. Kellhus is a very complicated character lol...while reading WP its hard to decide wether you hate him or love him. It's one of the greatest strong points of Bakker, being able to make one feel like one with the characters. From all the novels that I've read, Bakker does it the best.

[Murrin]

I just started The Darkness That Comes Before (ordered it from amazon.co.uk last week), I'm only up to the second chapter so far, but it seems good (though a little hard to follow - the maps are something I tend to use when I first start reading until I'm familiar with the locations, but in this one they're hidden away in the back and it seems quite hard to find places on them).

[Fist Gamet]

I never realised that Meiville's interview was causing such a storm. Ah well, there's no such thing as bad publicity, eh?

I enjoyed that interview, and, like Salvatore, I respect much of what he has to say. He does indeed seem very down to earth, and I particularly liked his views on the search within the genre, rather than groundbreaking into new stuff (or something like that )

I agree, EPIC FANTASY LIVES!!!!

[Folken]

No I mean you know Erikson's novels always have some sort of proper ending. There's a nice conclusion and stuff. I understand its the first novel in the series and stuff, but I would've prefered a better conclusion I don't know I just felt a bit let down by it. It was still a wonderful novel, no complaints there

I'm just wondering what I'm going to read once I'm done The Warrior Prophet...any suggestions?

[Malarion]

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Originally posted by Baran:
Cant wait for The Warrior Prophet to come out. Unfortunately i wouldnt have a clue when thats going to be.

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Mines in the post from Canada as we speak.

[stone monkey]

Far be it from me to disagree with all sorts of people who believe this to be Officially the Best Thing Ever; but I'm a disagreeable old sod, so I will. I realise that I'm probably going to be burned at the stake as a heretic for this (or at least receive the flaming of my life), but here goes.

Lets go by the criteria elucidated in one of the other threads, namely Plot,Character & Style.

Plot: Not a great deal to excite here, I'm afraid. The same old fantasy tropes wheeled out with different set dressings. No twists that weren't obvious, no real surprises.

Character: Others have lauded the character of Kellhus, and while he's unusual he's not exactly literary dynamite as a character. He's one of those cool ideas that appeal to the insecure adolescent in us all: the infinitely competent person who is always in control of himself and the events around him. Which makes him a little pointless if you're trying to build any kind of jeopardy into the plot - he's never really in any kind of danger, is he? Also the female characters are a bit one note: Serwe and Esmi seem to have "victim" tattooed on their foreheads.

Style: This is where it definitely falls down for me. Given the setting I was expecting a certain amount of exoticism in Bakker's phrasing and other use of language - for atmospheric purposes - but the whole thing came off a bit flat, to my mind. It didn't enfold me in the culture. Also, trying to make it a very character centred piece needs internal monologues that are almost fetishistically self-absorbed within the character and use a kind of enhanced language to get this across (a la Donaldson or Martin); Bakkers monologues just seemed IMO to say "the character feels this" and didn't make you feel along with them.

I really wanted to like this book, and whilst my review does seem a little hostile, I don't actually dislike it. I was just a bit disappointed. It's not a bad book, just one whose reach definitely exceeds it's grasp.

[drosdelnoch]

Not just yet. Simon and Schuster (the UK publishers) sold it to Orbit, book one will be published by Orbit in June and theyve hinted that book two will be released in the summer so probably around July August, in theory. SO it will be a long wait until then for us.

[maynard]

Woo, I finally found the first book in this uncivilized end of the world. Everytime I've gone to a book store this past half-year I've been looking for it, and didn't see it until a couple of days ago. Anyway, here's my thoughts:

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I recognized some of things that SM said about Kellhus, and I partly agree with it. I do think he had a redeeming quality however, IE his seeming complete lack of a conscience. I for one am sick of tired of all these shining heroes as protagonists. And perhaps since I am an adolescent (well, more or less at least) I didn't have as large a problem with Kellhus being somewhat superhuman as SM did. However, I also found large parts of the books pretty boring, but overall I really did enjoy the book and will look for the sequel, but I guess it won't released here in the snowy North anytime soon.

/maynard

[Murrin]

I seem to be liking this book in the same way I liked KJ Parker's Scavenger Trilogy - The characters aren't anything special, the style leaves me faintly dissatisfied, and yet I still want to know what's going to happen - I still want to keep following these characters and see how they cope...