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The Book that Erikson just read and loved

#381 fortyseven

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 07:03 AM

The Chapters I went to yesterday had one copy

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 02:08 AM

So I finished The Thousandfold Thought, and decided that the Prince of Nothing is my favorite finished series that I have read.

No spoilers, but TTT throws some really good, and some really interesting, scenarios our way.

The book does well ending this series, but as well keeps us excited for the next series that takes part twenty years following the conclusion of TTT - the new series is aply titled The Aspect-Emperor. Can't wait for that.

Anyway, The Thousandfold Thought - book of 2006 so far. Mind you, we're only 17 days in.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:12 PM

when was the book released. you obviously got copies. yet amazon says its still not published and I have come across several differing dates in my search of the internet. local stores got nothing and I want this book so bad

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:28 PM

They all got advanced reader copies and one store apparently mixed up the release date.

Its not out yet.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 02:31 AM

All the Chapters and Chapters owned in Montreal have several copies.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 02:46 AM

Ok, so apparently its out in canada.

Amazon.ca has it, too.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 04:34 AM

It was released on the 19 or 20 of January. Yes, it's avaliable now.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 01:58 AM

so...is there any dialouge in this novel? All I'm getting here is what the character is feeling and why the character is feeling...and...they seem to be doing nothing really...and...so yeah...Me thinks Bakker might have over done the philosophy in this one

Oh and anyone in the Toronto area thats interested, Bakker is coming to TO @ Bakka Books on Feb 4th. Go, get em signed tell him you love him and that jazz lol.

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Posted 28 January 2006 - 10:40 PM

Jen said:

There's plenty of dialogue. But there's also plenty of inner thought.

I love them both, so I didn't find any flaw with that.

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 03:19 PM

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I agree, I recently put up my review of The Thosuandfold Thought up here

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 02:22 AM

Brys said:

Only superior to Erikson in terms of prose - Erikson's improving with every book he writes, but I find that Bakker's writing flows much better and has a much more consistent, intelligent feel to it than Erikson's. The novel overall I didn't find quite as good as Erikson's best, but I can see how a case can be made for it, especially with the characterisation - I don't think there are that many more grey, intriguing characters than Kellhus have ever been created.

Yeah, I am gonna also disagree with that POV. I found myself comparing the two at every interval, and Erikson won every time. Whilst I was intrigued during the first book, it in no way affected me like the Malazan books.....and wheras I love all the Malazan books, I didn't like Warrior-Prophet at all really...and I think Mr. Bakker may have issues with the fairer sex frankly. Even his one REAL female lead is wishy washy, and conniving...not to mention...well her profession. I don't know why, it just REALLY bothers me. Erikson has MANY female leads, alot of which are stronger than alot of the men....and alot of other authors realize that females can do more than what Bakker has them doing. Like I said, it just really gets under my skin. Perhaps I am like Joss Whedon....female characters can kick ass....but then I am a hardcore Buffy fan.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 07:34 PM

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I had an almost opposite reaction. While I'm enjoying the Malazan books, I stopped reading House of Chains in the middle to read this series and I'm now on my second read through. I'd also have to echo the sentiments of previous posters who said that this was the best piece of finished epic fantast they'd ever read. To me the characterization in these novels is truly first rate. While SE certainly has a much larger cast to deal with in terms of "main characters" then Bakker, I still don't think he even comes close to matching Bakker in this department. Cnaiur, Kellhus, Akka, Esmi and Conphas to name a few are all more memorable characters then any I've seen in the Malazan books thus far.

I'm also not sure where you get the impression that Bakker has issues with females. A vast majority of the characters in the series are, to put it mildly, not very nice people. Esmi is one of the more sympathetic characters in the series, IMO. Many of the flaws/sins you describe in Esmi are relatively minor compared to the other characters we meet in the novels.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 08:18 AM

QuickTidal said:

Don't bother bringing up the woman vs men thing. In Bakker's world, the women had few rights and were the target of plenty of stereotypes. In Erikson's world, obviously the genre difference is much less significant. Two different stories. Don't compare that aspect of them.

One could make the argument that genre plays a role in Bakker's book, and not in Erikson's. Since, wasn't it Erikson's that accidently gave a character a sex change and he nor the editors noticed?

Not taking away from either author here, as they're my two favorite, but I think comparing them is rediculous. Two completely different styles of book. Might as well compare the DeVinci Code with Harry Potter.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 11:50 AM

What? We cant compare them because they're different? Thats the whole point of comparing stuff! Finding out where its different.

And because erikson accidentally changed the gender of a characer?

Huh?

If you cant compare two authors who both write epic fantasy, who can you compare?

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 03:03 PM

Finished TTT, and...hmmmm. Kind of disappointed, actually. I thought the ending and certain subplots could have been developed more fully. Still, the trilogy was entertaining with some well-developed and original characters and I look forward to more offerings from RSB.

OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 12:47 AM

The prince of nothing series is essentially a prologue to his upcoming trilogy the aspect emperor longhorn. So whatever plots/subplots that didn't finish up in The prince of nothing books will begin again and find resolution in the next trilogy.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 02:21 PM

Yeah, yeah...it's not the ending per se that bothered me, but the way it was written...the endings didn't feel earned, I guess. Once Kellhus meets Moenghus, everything feels rushed. Moenghus raises some interesting questions that, while not having to be resolved, should at least have been explored. And we should definitely have seen more about Maithanet, given what we learn about him.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 07:19 PM

I will agree that the ending comes on you quickly, but overall i think it was well done. I will also agree that maithanet definitely warranted more info given about him.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:10 PM

longhorn said:

You should use spoiler tags.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:14 PM

Book 3 is a drag...dear god I can't take this anymore. Book 1 was awesome, Book 2 was awesome until the last 1/4...Book 3...it just caries on from what turned me off from book 2. There is so much of this character feels this...this character feels that and they're feeling this and that because of this and that BUT they're really feeling this and that but they don't know that...for the LOVE OF GOD!

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