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Mafia 89.75: Happy Never After

#561 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:20 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 27 July 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

@Tellan: Osseric hasn't pushed the case, though. Osseric quoted a few things and then voted. That's it. I think that your response to Osseric is misdirected, and as much OMGUS as a legitimate response. TBH my willingness to lynch him to secure something on day 2 is motivated as much by annoyance at the RP (the same way I'd probably be willing to vote Tennes because reading through the accent is a pain) as it is by legitimate suspicion.



This attitude is seriously damaging to town. Our focus needs to be on lynching scum, not annoying players. It doesn't matter who bugs you or why, you need to go for the person most likely to be scum, and annoying does not equal scummy.


Okay. Let me rephrase that. By interspersing unnecessary RP in between posts, or writing all your posts with the accent like Tennes has been doing, it makes it more difficult for people to reread / analyze their posting patterns. It's a tactic that only hurts town if you have nothing to hide, and makes it less likely people will find slips if you are scum.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:20 PM

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 46 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Kalse, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Liosan ( Sheltatha Lore, D'riss )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Tennes, Osseric, Atrahal )
3 Votes for Osseric ( Tellan, Eloth, Kalse )
1 Vote for Atrahal ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Kaschan, Rashan, Sorrit, Telas
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#563 User is offline   Kalse 

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:21 PM

I still think lio is town, but its more of a wifom gut feeling, more than anything else which I was called on when I made that post originally

there's quite a few if us who are just slipping through without making any waves, its those im thinking of right now

my house internet keeps going on and off, ive tried 3 times to post this so im going to be using my phone after this

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:21 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 27 July 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you are throwing a tantrum like a two year old? To be honest, I am far more interested in your reaction to the pressure than to the case itself, and you look like you're scrambling. Name-calling, OMGUS and condescention all seem to me to be the last resort of scum trying to hang on. The post below exemplifies all of these tactics. Do you have any reason to believe that D'riss and Osseric are scum, apart from the fact that they are voting you?

View PostTellan, on 27 July 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

You're all blind and retarded if you think I'm scum. D'riss and Osseric are scum.



My point was that Eloth thinks acting as if I'm town is a scummy behavior. That's beyond idiotic. Why would you act as anything but town? That just makes it more confusing for people that are trying to find scum.


Also, this post sreams out to me:

View PostTellan, on 27 July 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

6 anons. All three scum watching?


How do you know there are three scum? We have had no indication from PS and no discussion around how many scum there are in this game.


Osseric I've made cases against. I shouldn't have mentioned D'riss before I had the material to make a case. Heat of the moment.

2 partnered scum and a symp would be standard for this size of game.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:22 PM

View PostD, on 27 July 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 27 July 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Okay. Re: Liosan, I see that contradiction / hypocrisy there that SL pointed out. However, I don't agree with the second part of the case--at that stage Emu was the most probable lynch iirc, and the case on rashan was founded entirely on lurking / low-posting--something Rashan corrected, which nullified the entire case. I did the same thing at night, only Emu was at L-1 so I neglected to hammer.


Not sure what you are saying Telas. What do you see as the second part of the case? The fact Liosan was in the final four? The reason that (and anyone in the final four) were suspicious was that a lynch of Emur was looking like a done deal, and with the rapidity at which votes were placed, to a scum it would be an ideal hiding place, should Emur have been finished quickly. I don't think Liosan would have voted if she had thought the Emur lynch would have stalled.


Okay, I think that the rush to L-1 was sketchy, as I previously stated. I was referring more to the bit where Lio removes his vote on Rashan first. But I see your point.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostKalse, on 26 July 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

All I could see was his (jokish) vote on liosan, for calling ruse out on not being the princess we all know vengence to really be

he also had a little spat at osseric for being an evil disney charachter.

and like everyone else he seemed against speaking in tongues, though he did send a few messages back at emur in chinease

now we know emur was town, it looks like the language lynch was a really bad idea, but hopefully will stop this happening in future games...



View PostKalse, on 26 July 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Im still here as well but im at work so I keep half writing something and getting interupted and then forgetting the point I was making....

I'm thinking lisoan isnt scum, but only becuase ruse was voting for him the whole day, and there was hardly any other heat on him, it would of been daft for lio to kill off ruse....I'm not rulling him out completlty, but I think he is a little less likely to be scum right now....


These two quotes Telas, at the start of day 2

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

the first post was an analysis of ruse after he was killed and the second one was about lio

why dont you vote for me if you think my defense of lio makes lio scummy?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:32 PM

cause paired killer avoid one another typically. Symps don't have this restriction.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:34 PM

I mean, you aren't exactly dropping a vote for Liosan. Afraid that could lead to her lynch?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:35 PM

I dont think lio's scum, so why would i vote for him?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostKalse, on 27 July 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

I dont think lio's scum, so why would i vote for him?


Interesting that you could be so sure.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

Sorry D'riss but that just doesn't strike me as that strong of a connection.

Tell me, after Tellan blew up the way he did, what made your suspicions about him at the end of day 1 change?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

lol I said I dont think, not that I know for certain, and as theres not really any evidence against him (well anyone at the moment)

Ill probably keep my vote on osseric for now, hopefully he will get out of his meeting in time to say something useful

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:40 PM

Connection being, it didn't seem like Kalse was attempting to deflect particularly strongly in either of those posts. The first post was talking about ruse, not liosan, and while the second post has some wifom I don't particularly disagree with kalse's statement.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:42 PM

I have no time, I'm on my phone. Id be willing to vote kaschan if no one wants to go for trojan or Liosan but it's telling that the votes are split.

That's meant to say tellan. As Isay I'm on phone.

I'll edit in my French accent later.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:43 PM

I'm still suspicious of him, as I am of everyone else. However, over the course of day 2, my suspicion of Liosan increased, and I'm going with the one I see as most likely scum. Plus, calling oneself scum towards the end, just like a self-vote, statistically is more of a town move rather than a scum move. There are always exceptions, but that last move convinced me that I wanted to go for Liosan.

But being one who likes adding a little pressure, I wanted to make sure we got a little more data on Tellan before I went after Liosan.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

View PostTennes, on 27 July 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

I have no time, I'm on my phone. Id be willing to vote kaschan if no one wants to go for trojan or Liosan but it's telling that the votes are split.

That's meant to say tellan. As Isay I'm on phone.

I'll edit in my French accent later.


I think kaschan might not be to bad an idea, he hasn't said anything at all for a while

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:46 PM

So it's going to be Osseric eh? Ok, so I will help with that, even though I think Liosan is a better candidate. I'm not going to stall this lynch so it doesn't happen, but I want to inquire more into your agreeability Telas, and Kalse by no means is cleared (more suspicious if you ask me).


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:46 PM

View PostKalse, on 27 July 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 27 July 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

I have no time, I'm on my phone. Id be willing to vote kaschan if no one wants to go for trojan or Liosan but it's telling that the votes are split.

That's meant to say tellan. As Isay I'm on phone.

I'll edit in my French accent later.


I think kaschan might not be to bad an idea, he hasn't said anything at all for a while


Yeah, but what use is it pushing that case when nothing has been said about Kaschan for the last many posts and we have less than an hour to lynch?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:48 PM

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 18 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Kalse, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Liosan ( Sheltatha Lore )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Tennes, Osseric, Atrahal )
4 Votes for Osseric ( Tellan, Eloth, Kalse, D'riss )
1 Vote for Atrahal ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Kaschan, Rashan, Sorrit, Telas
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