[D'riss]

Tennes, on 27 July 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Kalse, on 27 July 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Tennes, on 27 July 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Kalse, on 26 July 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

I would love to dance but im already falling for someone else....

either theres only one kill per night, or someone can gaurd, or has bps.

Are you saying zis because you tried to kill someone and failed?

actually I was replying to the post sorrit posted right before this one.

Sorrit, on 26 July 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Perhaps one of the killers failed to put in their night action? We're assuming two killers for now, I'd surmise. Who all popped on late? Although, that's nothing definitive, it may be somewhat useful down the road.

Osseric, what do you have to say about things? I'd like to know your thoughts. Who were your best suspects for Day 1, and what are you thinking now?

Kalse? Anyone else available for discussion?

Or perhaps a slow dance?

I was just going through the possibilitys

Zis is meant to be M & P no? Deux killers and a symp which I agree on yet deux kills a night vould be overpowered in my opinión. I zink Sorrit was referring to zee amount of time at night not un kill.

This, plus Kalse's statement that Liosan was very likely innocent drove my shift of focus from Tellan to Liosan. I thought it odd that someone would say someone else was innocent this early in the game and moreover, throw in speculation that is entirely ludicrous in a M&P of this TMDI and size. Furthermore, the remark about Lio's innocence was just a small passing remark, easily overlooked but still planting a seed.

[Telas]

Ugh. This game is all over the place right now, with 4-5 people all getting accused of different cases. It's hard to digest all at once. Aside from what is currently being discussed, the bit from Kalse that seemed to assume two separate kills every night struck me as a bit sketchy.

I think I believe Tellan. The case against him has been pretty overblown, as if publicly declaring your suspicions on day 1 makes you scummy somehow. I really would not mind lynching Osseric, as it seems he's pretty convinced about a rather weak case, and continues to throw in his content posts among distracting / obfuscating RP.

I'm not too clear on the Liosan case. It's based on someone throwing out suspicions on day 1, but hedging those suspicions by admitting their faults, i.e. not having conviction about those suspicions? It was on day 1! Do I have this right?

[Tellan]

I really don't believe the Liosan case, and it won't be getting any support from me. Just so you know. As I mentioned earlier, it just feels the same as that against me.

[Osseric]

3 votes for roleplaying? Low posting? I gave a genuine case based on the little we have PLUS little time to post. I'll be more available after today. I think it would be stupid to have picked a villain if I were scum.

[Telas]

Osseric, on 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

3 votes for roleplaying? Low posting? I gave a genuine case based on the little we have PLUS little time to post. I'll be more available after today. I think it would be stupid to have picked a villain if I were scum.

Well that's just a whole bunch of WIFOM. It'd be ballsy but it could definitely work.

[D'riss]

You see, Liosan has been exceptionally helpful today, going over the last moments of the lynch, reviewing the final four votes that put Emur at L-1. It's an ideal place for a more talkative scum to sit. Plus, being scum herself, she needed to control the information that included her as a suspect (the most suspicious suspect since she was the L-1 vote).

Question was, how to pull attention off herself. Especially when SL caught on to her day 1 behavior. The thing in day 1 that was most heinous in my opinion was her shift from saying there was possibly avatar signaling to saying that hunting for day 1 signaling was silly.

You see, since the start of this game, I have researched a couple of M&P games to get a feel for what scum do on day 1. What I've found is that scum can either be found entirely absent from the lynch train or in the later half of the lynch train (refer to the mafia games in the 70s). So I really do think that if we are to find scum, it will be in those last 4 votes.

[Tellan]

Osseric, on 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

3 votes for roleplaying? Low posting? I gave a genuine case based on the little we have PLUS little time to post. I'll be more available after today. I think it would be stupid to have picked a villain if I were scum.

WIFOM it up, baby.


The votes are for the way you push this shit case, not the roleplaying.

[Osseric]

Tellan, on 27 July 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

3 votes for roleplaying? Low posting? I gave a genuine case based on the little we have PLUS little time to post. I'll be more available after today. I think it would be stupid to have picked a villain if I were scum.

WIFOM it up, baby.


The votes are for the way you push this shit case, not the roleplaying.

Pushed? While low posting? Funny. You are funny.

[D'riss]

Telas, on 27 July 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

Ugh. This game is all over the place right now, with 4-5 people all getting accused of different cases. It's hard to digest all at once. Aside from what is currently being discussed, the bit from Kalse that seemed to assume two separate kills every night struck me as a bit sketchy.

I think I believe Tellan. The case against him has been pretty overblown, as if publicly declaring your suspicions on day 1 makes you scummy somehow. I really would not mind lynching Osseric, as it seems he's pretty convinced about a rather weak case, and continues to throw in his content posts among distracting / obfuscating RP.

I'm not too clear on the Liosan case. It's based on someone throwing out suspicions on day 1, but hedging those suspicions by admitting their faults, i.e. not having conviction about those suspicions? It was on day 1! Do I have this right?

Tellan, on 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

I really don't believe the Liosan case, and it won't be getting any support from me. Just so you know. As I mentioned earlier, it just feels the same as that against me.

The case on Liosan is more complex than the one on Tellan. SL did a much better job capturing the essence of Liosan's day 1 game play than I could when I posted suspicions at the start of Day 2. The thing that pushed me over the edge was Kalse's odd support of Liosan when the pressure on Lio wasn't that great. Plus, Liosan, in regurgitating day 1 events with no need for a spin because she would of course say she herself was innocent, could easily be construed as helpful without looking altogether too suspicious.

[Telas]

@Tellan: Osseric hasn't pushed the case, though. Osseric quoted a few things and then voted. That's it. I think that your response to Osseric is misdirected, and as much OMGUS as a legitimate response. TBH my willingness to lynch him to secure something on day 2 is motivated as much by annoyance at the RP (the same way I'd probably be willing to vote Tennes because reading through the accent is a pain) as it is by legitimate suspicion.

[D'riss]

Osseric, on 27 July 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Tellan, on 27 July 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

3 votes for roleplaying? Low posting? I gave a genuine case based on the little we have PLUS little time to post. I'll be more available after today. I think it would be stupid to have picked a villain if I were scum.

WIFOM it up, baby.


The votes are for the way you push this shit case, not the roleplaying.

Pushed? While low posting? Funny. You are funny.

Hey, ladies! Save the catfight for after the lynch. Nighttime would be a good place for such hissy-fits.
Tellan, I'm giving you a chance now, live up to it.

[Eloth]

WOW. D'riss care to explain which case you support? case on Lio,Osseric or Tellan ?
or do you just attack anybody who isn't online?

[Eloth]

Osseric, you are here but still low posting and no content. give us something to not lynch you at least.

[Osseric]

In a meeting...

[Atrahal]

How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you are throwing a tantrum like a two year old? To be honest, I am far more interested in your reaction to the pressure than to the case itself, and you look like you're scrambling. Name-calling, OMGUS and condescention all seem to me to be the last resort of scum trying to hang on. The post below exemplifies all of these tactics. Do you have any reason to believe that D'riss and Osseric are scum, apart from the fact that they are voting you?

Tellan, on 27 July 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

You're all blind and retarded if you think I'm scum. D'riss and Osseric are scum.



My point was that Eloth thinks acting as if I'm town is a scummy behavior. That's beyond idiotic. Why would you act as anything but town? That just makes it more confusing for people that are trying to find scum.

Also, this post sreams out to me:

Tellan, on 27 July 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

6 anons. All three scum watching?

How do you know there are three scum? We have had no indication from PS and no discussion around how many scum there are in this game.

[Telas]

Okay. Re: Liosan, I see that contradiction / hypocrisy there that SL pointed out. However, I don't agree with the second part of the case--at that stage Emu was the most probable lynch iirc, and the case on rashan was founded entirely on lurking / low-posting--something Rashan corrected, which nullified the entire case. I did the same thing at night, only Emu was at L-1 so I neglected to hammer.

[D'riss]

Eloth, on 27 July 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

WOW. D'riss care to explain which case you support? case on Lio,Osseric or Tellan ?
or do you just attack anybody who isn't online?

I no longer think Tellan is the most likely scum. I think Osseric is dodgy and I don't like being surprised by low-posting spammers at the end game, hence my willingness to vote Osseric if we end up needing my vote to close the deal.

But my lead suspect is Liosan for aforementioned reasons.

[Atrahal]

Telas, on 27 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

@Tellan: Osseric hasn't pushed the case, though. Osseric quoted a few things and then voted. That's it. I think that your response to Osseric is misdirected, and as much OMGUS as a legitimate response. TBH my willingness to lynch him to secure something on day 2 is motivated as much by annoyance at the RP (the same way I'd probably be willing to vote Tennes because reading through the accent is a pain) as it is by legitimate suspicion.

This attitude is seriously damaging to town. Our focus needs to be on lynching scum, not annoying players. It doesn't matter who bugs you or why, you need to go for the person most likely to be scum, and annoying does not equal scummy.

[Telas]

Okay. We have about an hour left before timeout. I need to get back to work soon, though, but I don't want to end up with a no-lynch. I would be willing to lynch Osseric, or if necessary Tellan--he did ask for it. D'riss, what was the bit about Kalse defending Liosan too strongly?

[D'riss]

Telas, on 27 July 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Okay. Re: Liosan, I see that contradiction / hypocrisy there that SL pointed out. However, I don't agree with the second part of the case--at that stage Emu was the most probable lynch iirc, and the case on rashan was founded entirely on lurking / low-posting--something Rashan corrected, which nullified the entire case. I did the same thing at night, only Emu was at L-1 so I neglected to hammer.

Not sure what you are saying Telas. What do you see as the second part of the case? The fact Liosan was in the final four? The reason that (and anyone in the final four) were suspicious was that a lynch of Emur was looking like a done deal, and with the rapidity at which votes were placed, to a scum it would be an ideal hiding place, should Emur have been finished quickly. I don't think Liosan would have voted if she had thought the Emur lynch would have stalled.