[Telas]

Well, there were a few possibilities before the lynch played out (all the below assumes my theory is correct):
Kalse fake-symped Tellan/Rashan with the fake reveal. This had 3 possible turnouts:
1.) We believe Kalse, and lynch SL/Kaschan.
2.) We disbelieve Kalse, and lynch Tellan/Rashan
3.) We disbelieve Kalse, and lynch Kalse


(3) is unlikely since Kalse's play doesn't fit scum, it fits symp. Lynching Kalse, barring a "finder" CF (which I doubt would happen), wouldn't tell us who the scum are.

(1) and (2) were the most likely possibilities. If (2) had happened, Tellan/Rashan would have CFed inno, Kalse would have been PIed to a degree, and he could help force the next lynch or 2 onto other people.

But (1) happened, and now we need to lynch Kalse to buy ourselves time. Otherwise we can guess at Tellan/Rashan and we're at D-Day. On the other hand we can lynch Kalse, giving us 2 scum / 5 town and therefore 1 guess at the real scum, whom I believe can be found among Sorrit, Atrahal, Liosan, and Eloth.

[Telas]

Essentially it would've been a pretty bold play that couldn't really backfire if Kalse didn't even mention his master.

(There's also the possibility that Kalse was distancing from Kaschan in the same maneuver, though Tennes mentioned voting SL and Tellan was the first to vote SL, thereby deflecting from kaschan--which pretty much ruins my theory).

[Tellan]

Vote Kalse



Regardless of if I agree with you or not, I think lynching Kalse today is a good idea.

[Tellan]

Telas, on 31 July 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Essentially it would've been a pretty bold play that couldn't really backfire if Kalse didn't even mention his master.

(There's also the possibility that Kalse was distancing from Kaschan in the same maneuver, though Tennes mentioned voting SL and Tellan was the first to vote SL, thereby deflecting from kaschan--which pretty much ruins my theory).

I actually assumed that Kalse was protecting SL by voting kaschan in the first place. We mafia folk are sure paranoid.

[Telas]

Tellan, on 31 July 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

Telas, on 31 July 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Essentially it would've been a pretty bold play that couldn't really backfire if Kalse didn't even mention his master.

(There's also the possibility that Kalse was distancing from Kaschan in the same maneuver, though Tennes mentioned voting SL and Tellan was the first to vote SL, thereby deflecting from kaschan--which pretty much ruins my theory).

I actually assumed that Kalse was protecting SL by voting kaschan in the first place. We mafia folk are sure paranoid.

Exactly haha. The way I could see that playing out is:
Kaschan/Tellan are scum, Kalse is symp
Kalse fake reveals, naming Kaschan and SL
Tellan directs lynch onto SL
SL gets lynched, CFs inno
Kalse gets lynched for being symp
Kaschan looks inno as a result.

But that is a pretty paranoid conspiracy theory-esque scenario. More likely IMO is that Kalse chose Kaschan and SL since he could link them by the duck avatars, even though I'm pretty sure SL had the duck avatar first so he couldn't have been a symp signaling to master.

[Telas]

Yeah--SL was the first poster, about 10 hours before Kaschan first checked in. Pretty sure SL had the duck avatar first, so he couldn't have been the symp signaling to Kaschan.

[Kalse]

Before you lynch me im waiting for ps to get back to me with my tellan find, Its up to you if you want to kill me off asap, Im expecting to be gone this day, but if you want to wait for the result of tellan, ill glady vote for myself

[Kalse]

nvm ps got bk to me, tellan is town

[Tellan]

Remove Vote



Let's see if he clears me before we lynch him.

[Kalse]

players left
Atrahal, Eloth, Kalse, Kaschan, Liosan, Rashan, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan

my finds

Scum
SL
Kaschan

Town
Tellan

[Tellan]

Yes I am.


Vote Kalse



Doesn't change anything.

[Telas]

Meh, if my fake-symp theory is wrong then tellan could be your master. You clearing him is pretty meaningless when we have you pegged as symp no matter what.

[Kalse]

vote kalse

because if I dont you wont change anything

kaschan is scum!
for the love of mafia lynch him!!!!!

[Kalse]

and im now at L1

and i hope I CF as finder but expect to just be town

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 30 hours and 55 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Atrahal, Eloth, Kalse, Kaschan, Liosan, Rashan, Sorrit, Telas, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for Kalse ( Sorrit, Telas, Tellan, Kalse )

Players not voted: Atrahal, Eloth, Kaschan, Liosan, Rashan

[Liosan]

Atrahal, on 31 July 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 31 July 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

For atrahal, LOOKING for a symp is different than finding the fucker. Once found, killing his ass gives you an extra day to look for scum. I'll set it up nice and simple.

Down to 3 scum, 4 town. Go for a scum, and miss, its 3 scum, 2 town, and scum gives you the royal treatment.

Now if you ALREADY know the symp, lynch him, its then 2 scum, 3 town. Another day is MAGICALLY granted. Hard to follow, I know. But tis true. You were obviously thinking of early game, not being sure of symp. You wouldn't need the extra day, yet. Here, yes, go for killers, not symp. At our point, if you know the symp, grill his ass.

Hell, Kalse could cf finder for all we know. Wouldn't that be grand. It's SLIGHTLY POSSIBLE. He COULD of been told he found a killer, and the symp MAY have CFed scum from Mott. Would be odd. If this DID happen, it would explain why he didn't think the game was over. Which was odd. Could explain why SL didn't vote him.

Another day MAGICALLY granted means another day for scum to kill. Not sure what you don't understand about this.

And your WIFOM about SL is not going to help until he returns to explain his actions.

It is currently 2am, and I need sleep. Will return when I awake.

Am I on crack, or did SL not get lynched? WTF are you talking about Atrahal?

[Liosan]

So should I just hammer Kalse?

[Kalse]

might aswel so I can go look into SH

[Telas]

I want to hear what Atrahal and Eloth think but it's hard to say when they will be back.

[Telas]

7 anons, there's some lurkers afoot.