[Atrahal]

Does Sheltatha leaving tell us anything? Did vengeance actually just leave, or is leaving a result of scum activity? In any case it doesn't seem to provide any information that will help us in day 2.

[Silanah]

Atrahal, on 17 July 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Does Sheltatha leaving tell us anything? Did vengeance actually just leave, or is leaving a result of scum activity? In any case it doesn't seem to provide any information that will help us in day 2.

I am assuming she was NKd by the scum, but 'leaving' is the term being used as it's American Idol based.

[Fener]

Atrahal, on 17 July 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Does Sheltatha leaving tell us anything? Did vengeance actually just leave, or is leaving a result of scum activity? In any case it doesn't seem to provide any information that will help us in day 2.

Just looks like a themed way of saying NK'd (since modkill was specified, and it's meant to be M&P ish), and Inno.

[Sorrit]

Kaschan said:

1342544118[/url]' post='979305']

Fener said:

1342543876[/url]' post='979302']

Kaschan said:

1342542866[/url]' post='979288']
I make half a case, refresh the thread, and find the train heading my way. We've disregarded the part where Anthras has been involved in apparent symp signaling all game, starting from the second page between himself, Silanah, and Atrahal that Shelly pointed out:

Sheltatha Lore said:

1342460342[/url]' post='978948']

Anthras said:

1342443481[/url]' post='978880']
Remove Vote

Vote Silanah

I'm in that video!

Atrahal said:

1342456595[/url]' post='978936']
Believe it or not, I'm one of the shadows in the very first part of this video. I'm the hotest one lol *winky face* I'm so random! And talented of course.
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Looks like day one signalling to me.

Then Atrahal shows up as Amp applies some pressure to Anthras and immediately puts up an inaccurate analsysis of korv's votes to push the train toward me. Seems like he's trying to back his own master up.

Vote Anthras

Shouldn't you be voting the person you think is the master rather than the symp?

I think there's two possibilities:

1) Silanah is the master and Anthras is the symp. That vote on Silanah was completely out of the blue. Anthras has commanded everyone's attention by being spammy as fuck, whereas Silanah has been a medium poster without making any big splash, while not being completely absent like Kalse. That vote seems a little too blatant, though, as if Anthras is trying to fake symp.

2) Anthras is the master and Atrahal is the symp. The fact that Atrahal has redirected the lynch train to me while Anthras was being pressured by Amp.

On my phone, but reviewing I'm not getting what started your train. I voted Sil because I thought it looked like Anthras may be signaling as the symp. I think that still was one of the better cases and wonder if it would have had more traction if my vote hadn't been lost.

[Kaschan]

Shelly's post history:

-3 spam posts
-Joke response to Anthras, replying to a joke vote on Ampelas
-Remarks upon possible signaling involving Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah
-Joke/RP post to Atrahal
-2 joke responses to Atrahal after he joke voted her
-Summarizes the death threat exchange involving Korbas, Karosis, Ampelas
-2 posts talking about wanting to force a day 1 lynch
-Votes Silanah for getting riled up about suggesting there has to be a symp
----Dies.

This makes it look a bit like Silanah is trying to protect herself if she's scum. Had Sheltatha remained alive and been here to discuss my case against Anthras I think he would have supported me. However, my case is hardly concrete enough that any support for it would need to be shut down.

Obviously by leaving Anthras, Atrahal, and I alive we will continue to keep arguing/accusing each other, which protects scum if all of us turn out to be inno. I'm inclined now to look for other possible scum while keeping tabs on these 3 (Sil, Anthras, Atrahal). It's about as probable that they are scum and making a somewhat rash kill decision as it is that they are being framed, imho.

@Sorrit: Do you refer to the train against me or the train I was trying to start?

[Kaschan]

It's 8pm GMT, where is everyone?

[Kaschan]

Looking at the low posters who haven't made an appearance recently:

Korbas--

Made a joke vote on Anthras he later removed. Lots of spam and RP. Involved in the death threat exchange. Since MIA.

Ano--

Spam, discussed the death threat exchange, voted Korbas then left for work. Presumably he doesn't have internet access at work so it makes sense he hasn't posted since.

Spite--

Eleven spam posts. All before the game started getting serious. Hasn't posted since then, presumably also at work.

[Sorrit]

Kaschan said:

1342550957[/url]' post='979361']
Shelly's post history:

-3 spam posts
-Joke response to Anthras, replying to a joke vote on Ampelas
-Remarks upon possible signaling involving Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah
-Joke/RP post to Atrahal
-2 joke responses to Atrahal after he joke voted her
-Summarizes the death threat exchange involving Korbas, Karosis, Ampelas
-2 posts talking about wanting to force a day 1 lynch
-Votes Silanah for getting riled up about suggesting there has to be a symp
----Dies.

This makes it look a bit like Silanah is trying to protect herself if she's scum. Had Sheltatha remained alive and been here to discuss my case against Anthras I think he would have supported me. However, my case is hardly concrete enough that any support for it would need to be shut down.

Obviously by leaving Anthras, Atrahal, and I alive we will continue to keep arguing/accusing each other, which protects scum if all of us turn out to be inno. I'm inclined now to look for other possible scum while keeping tabs on these 3 (Sil, Anthras, Atrahal). It's about as probable that they are scum and making a somewhat rash kill decision as it is that they are being framed, imho.

@Sorrit: Do you refer to the train against me or the train I was trying to start?

The train against you. Still mobile, but my skim through looks more like people just trying to get ANY lynch.

[Kaschan]

Sorrit, on 17 July 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Shelly's post history:

-3 spam posts
-Joke response to Anthras, replying to a joke vote on Ampelas
-Remarks upon possible signaling involving Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah
-Joke/RP post to Atrahal
-2 joke responses to Atrahal after he joke voted her
-Summarizes the death threat exchange involving Korbas, Karosis, Ampelas
-2 posts talking about wanting to force a day 1 lynch
-Votes Silanah for getting riled up about suggesting there has to be a symp
----Dies.

This makes it look a bit like Silanah is trying to protect herself if she's scum. Had Sheltatha remained alive and been here to discuss my case against Anthras I think he would have supported me. However, my case is hardly concrete enough that any support for it would need to be shut down.

Obviously by leaving Anthras, Atrahal, and I alive we will continue to keep arguing/accusing each other, which protects scum if all of us turn out to be inno. I'm inclined now to look for other possible scum while keeping tabs on these 3 (Sil, Anthras, Atrahal). It's about as probable that they are scum and making a somewhat rash kill decision as it is that they are being framed, imho.

@Sorrit: Do you refer to the train against me or the train I was trying to start?

The train against you. Still mobile, but my skim through looks more like people just trying to get ANY lynch.

Essentially. Anthras saw me reading the thread naked when I skimmed through before work on my phone. He named me among a list of low posters as "most potential scum", with an emphasis on me because he specifically saw me reading the thread without making a post. This annoyed me, and as I explained why he saw me a few things happened:

-Karosis voted me, saying it was to stir things up. The only evidence against me was Anthras' word he saw me logged in.
-Korv made a joke vote for Fener, then later made a case against Korbas regarding signaling.
-Anthras or Karosis (not sure which) accused Korv of deflecting from me, and at some point around here votes for me.
-Korv argued that he just didn't like meta arguments and found them implausible
-Karosis later retracted his vote on me

~Fast forward a few hours~

-We need a lynch
-Ampelas goes on a posting spree criticizing Anthras' playstyle, saying that it doesn't help town even if he isn't scum
-Ampelas votes Anthras
-Shortly afterward Atrahal returns
-Atrahal makes a long post that deflects from Anthras while accusing Korv of symping me and votes for me
-Sil, Korv, and Karosis vote for me to try and get a lynch as I make a counterargument against Anthras linking him to Silanah and Atrahal as scummy.
-Afterward Fener makes a last-minute vote for me to secure a lynch after he previously voted Anthras because his play is questionable.

Votes were
Kaschan - Anthras, Atrahal, Silanah, Korvalain, Karosis, Fener in that order
Anthras - Ampelas, Kaschan

before day ended without a lynch.

Notice that Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah--the three people I identified as having potentially signaled to one another (3 scum makes sense out of 14)--are the first 3 on my train. Not definitive evidence by any means, but that's some food for thought.


Now then, where the fuck did everyone go? There were 9 on at the time of day's end at one point. 5 viewing right now yet no one is posting.

[Silanah]

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 17 July 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Shelly's post history:

-3 spam posts
-Joke response to Anthras, replying to a joke vote on Ampelas
-Remarks upon possible signaling involving Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah
-Joke/RP post to Atrahal
-2 joke responses to Atrahal after he joke voted her
-Summarizes the death threat exchange involving Korbas, Karosis, Ampelas
-2 posts talking about wanting to force a day 1 lynch
-Votes Silanah for getting riled up about suggesting there has to be a symp
----Dies.

This makes it look a bit like Silanah is trying to protect herself if she's scum. Had Sheltatha remained alive and been here to discuss my case against Anthras I think he would have supported me. However, my case is hardly concrete enough that any support for it would need to be shut down.

Obviously by leaving Anthras, Atrahal, and I alive we will continue to keep arguing/accusing each other, which protects scum if all of us turn out to be inno. I'm inclined now to look for other possible scum while keeping tabs on these 3 (Sil, Anthras, Atrahal). It's about as probable that they are scum and making a somewhat rash kill decision as it is that they are being framed, imho.

@Sorrit: Do you refer to the train against me or the train I was trying to start?

The train against you. Still mobile, but my skim through looks more like people just trying to get ANY lynch.

Essentially. Anthras saw me reading the thread naked when I skimmed through before work on my phone. He named me among a list of low posters as "most potential scum", with an emphasis on me because he specifically saw me reading the thread without making a post. This annoyed me, and as I explained why he saw me a few things happened:

-Karosis voted me, saying it was to stir things up. The only evidence against me was Anthras' word he saw me logged in.
-Korv made a joke vote for Fener, then later made a case against Korbas regarding signaling.
-Anthras or Karosis (not sure which) accused Korv of deflecting from me, and at some point around here votes for me.
-Korv argued that he just didn't like meta arguments and found them implausible
-Karosis later retracted his vote on me

~Fast forward a few hours~

-We need a lynch
-Ampelas goes on a posting spree criticizing Anthras' playstyle, saying that it doesn't help town even if he isn't scum
-Ampelas votes Anthras
-Shortly afterward Atrahal returns
-Atrahal makes a long post that deflects from Anthras while accusing Korv of symping me and votes for me
-Sil, Korv, and Karosis vote for me to try and get a lynch as I make a counterargument against Anthras linking him to Silanah and Atrahal as scummy.
-Afterward Fener makes a last-minute vote for me to secure a lynch after he previously voted Anthras because his play is questionable.

Votes were
Kaschan - Anthras, Atrahal, Silanah, Korvalain, Karosis, Fener in that order
Anthras - Ampelas, Kaschan

before day ended without a lynch.

Notice that Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah--the three people I identified as having potentially signaled to one another (3 scum makes sense out of 14)--are the first 3 on my train. Not definitive evidence by any means, but that's some food for thought.


Now then, where the fuck did everyone go? There were 9 on at the time of day's end at one point. 5 viewing right now yet no one is posting.

In my defense, my vote was on Karosis, and I had made it very clear that as soon as there was the beginnings of a train that I would jump on it. I am not a believer of a non-lynch being a good thing, despite any lack of information. Even a random lynch has a better chance of hitting scum than a no lynch. I made it very clear that I was moving my vote to Karosis to get a lynch. Had there been another viable candidate prior to that, I would have moved my vote there instead. Unfortunately, I was the only one with any votes besides Karosis, and for obvious reasons I was not going to vote for myself.

[Spite]

I'm back, catching up.

[Anomandaris]

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Looking at the low posters who haven't made an appearance recently:

Korbas--

Made a joke vote on Anthras he later removed. Lots of spam and RP. Involved in the death threat exchange. Since MIA.

Ano--

Spam, discussed the death threat exchange, voted Korbas then left for work. Presumably he doesn't have internet access at work so it makes sense he hasn't posted since.

Spite--

Eleven spam posts. All before the game started getting serious. Hasn't posted since then, presumably also at work.

Sadly yes, no internet at work and no chance to get near my phone for long enough to even look over the thread.

There seems to have been a couple of changes in attention when trains look like they could be developing, I'll need to read the last couple of pages more carefully since i've mainly just glanced at them, no lynches are very frustrating, doesn't look like we have all that much information, very little more than yesterday but it seems participation has at least picked up slightly so day two might be more productive.

[Spite]

Fuck, missing the lynch sucks, but a NO LYNCH sucks a big bag of dicks. I can't believe that happened, although I suppose it's partially my fault for not being around to vote. Still, what the fuck. On day 1 should have had plenty of people around to switch...and there were a number of votes for other people, too. Whoever said a no-lynch is a good idea needs a healthy dose of Mafia Fucking 101.

Just reading over this page here...

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Every fucking game I play in there's a no lynch day one, and another somewhere down the line.

As I say everytime, pathetic. If you know you can't be around before lynch, throw a vote out before you leave so we can work with that.

Looking at you Sorrit and Spite.

While in principle I totally agree with you about day 1 lynches, the last time I was able to post we were all still talking about avatars, cocaine, random RP joke votes, and...dancing? So if you're wondering why I didn't just throw out a random vote, well, it's because nothing had even happened yet. I also recently learned that it's worse to have your boss and coworkers all out of the office than to be worried about your boss watching over your shoulder. So I've just been busy as fuck and totally could not get on until now.

Also, why did you leave out Kalse in that statement? I'm actually shocked he never posted at all and was then modkilled, so he doesn't appear to be scum, but if he was still alive I would be extremely suspicious of you for leaving him off your list, as at day's time out there were three of us who hadn't voted, not two. And I guess Sorrit actually had voted but it just wasn't updated right in the P-S update? Either way, sketchy finger pointing, dude.

Need some time to go back and read some more pages, since apparently there was real discussion after I asked for some free cocaine. Also, I think I say "fuck" a lot when I post and I should probably try to cut down on that.

[Korvalain]

Actually I apologized in my next post. I posted that in passionate anger. Lol.

I left kalse off because he hadn't posted at all, and I assumed he wasn't aware we were playing.

Fyi, EVERYONE keeps saying I went after Korbas. Not true. It was Karosis, who had responded to a Korbas post. Sillies.

[Spite]

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 17 July 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Shelly's post history:

-3 spam posts
-Joke response to Anthras, replying to a joke vote on Ampelas
-Remarks upon possible signaling involving Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah
-Joke/RP post to Atrahal
-2 joke responses to Atrahal after he joke voted her
-Summarizes the death threat exchange involving Korbas, Karosis, Ampelas
-2 posts talking about wanting to force a day 1 lynch
-Votes Silanah for getting riled up about suggesting there has to be a symp
----Dies.

This makes it look a bit like Silanah is trying to protect herself if she's scum. Had Sheltatha remained alive and been here to discuss my case against Anthras I think he would have supported me. However, my case is hardly concrete enough that any support for it would need to be shut down.

Obviously by leaving Anthras, Atrahal, and I alive we will continue to keep arguing/accusing each other, which protects scum if all of us turn out to be inno. I'm inclined now to look for other possible scum while keeping tabs on these 3 (Sil, Anthras, Atrahal). It's about as probable that they are scum and making a somewhat rash kill decision as it is that they are being framed, imho.

@Sorrit: Do you refer to the train against me or the train I was trying to start?

The train against you. Still mobile, but my skim through looks more like people just trying to get ANY lynch.

Essentially. Anthras saw me reading the thread naked when I skimmed through before work on my phone. He named me among a list of low posters as "most potential scum", with an emphasis on me because he specifically saw me reading the thread without making a post. This annoyed me, and as I explained why he saw me a few things happened:

-Karosis voted me, saying it was to stir things up. The only evidence against me was Anthras' word he saw me logged in.
-Korv made a joke vote for Fener, then later made a case against Korbas regarding signaling.
-Anthras or Karosis (not sure which) accused Korv of deflecting from me, and at some point around here votes for me.
-Korv argued that he just didn't like meta arguments and found them implausible
-Karosis later retracted his vote on me

~Fast forward a few hours~

-We need a lynch
-Ampelas goes on a posting spree criticizing Anthras' playstyle, saying that it doesn't help town even if he isn't scum
-Ampelas votes Anthras
-Shortly afterward Atrahal returns
-Atrahal makes a long post that deflects from Anthras while accusing Korv of symping me and votes for me
-Sil, Korv, and Karosis vote for me to try and get a lynch as I make a counterargument against Anthras linking him to Silanah and Atrahal as scummy.
-Afterward Fener makes a last-minute vote for me to secure a lynch after he previously voted Anthras because his play is questionable.

Votes were
Kaschan - Anthras, Atrahal, Silanah, Korvalain, Karosis, Fener in that order
Anthras - Ampelas, Kaschan

before day ended without a lynch.

Notice that Anthras, Atrahal, and Silanah--the three people I identified as having potentially signaled to one another (3 scum makes sense out of 14)--are the first 3 on my train. Not definitive evidence by any means, but that's some food for thought.


Now then, where the fuck did everyone go? There were 9 on at the time of day's end at one point. 5 viewing right now yet no one is posting.

1. Nice summary.

2. WIFOM much?

Just some food for thought...

[Atrahal]

I'm not even going to bother responding to Kaschan's suggestion that I was signalling anyone; I've already expressed how stupid such an action would be day one, regardless of role. I very much doubt any claim of signalling is true at this stage, regardless of who it is. Like I said, it is more likely that we spot the symp by case and vote patterns. Specifically we should look for someone diverting attention, but perhaps more importantly, someone ignoring a potential scum and throwing out random votes for weak cases. Now we may have to wait another day or two to see these patterns. In the meantime we shouldn't waste too much time on the day one proceedings. No case was solid, I admit even my own was only the most likely (according to me) based on the very little evidence we had to work with.

I suggest we look to Sheltatha, and perhaps why she was off'd. It is possible she was drawing attention to the right scum, who panic killed her off. This is doubtful, especially this early in the game. How stupid would you have to be? Clearly an early move by scum would have diversionary intent. At least, it makes more sense. It was probably to draw attention away from some players. Not those who she suggested were scum, or had scummy behaviour. It is most likely that the scum want our attention on her, and who she interacted with. I bet that our scum are among those who had little to no interaction with Sheltatha. I realize that she and I exchanged jokes early game, and you might think I'm just trying to avoid notice, but it's painfully clear that our exchanges were clearly rp nonsense. I think my suggestion makes the most sense and I hope it does to you all as well, but feel free to shut it down if I've overlooked something. We can't really afford to let the scum pick us apart while we remain indecisive.

I'm going out for diner, but I'll be back in an hour or so. I'll see about gathering some posts together.

[Spite]

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Actually I apologized in my next post. I posted that in passionate anger. Lol.

I left kalse off because he hadn't posted at all, and I assumed he wasn't aware we were playing.

Fyi, EVERYONE keeps saying I went after Korbas. Not true. It was Karosis, who had responded to a Korbas post. Sillies.

Haha, wow, I literally did not notice the post you made about being rude until you pointed it out. Ok then. The Kalse thing still bugs me a bit cause the only way it would make sense is if you KNEW he would be modkilled or something, which doesn't happen often, people usually get warnings and shit. Just cause he hadn't posted doesn't mean he didn't vote, P-S's list was pretty clear. I mean, I had posted but only day 1 bullshit, so it's not like I was adding to the discussion either. Too many fucking K names anyway.

[Spite]

Atrahal, on 17 July 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

I'm not even going to bother responding to Kaschan's suggestion that I was signalling anyone; I've already expressed how stupid such an action would be day one, regardless of role. I very much doubt any claim of signalling is true at this stage, regardless of who it is. Like I said, it is more likely that we spot the symp by case and vote patterns. Specifically we should look for someone diverting attention, but perhaps more importantly, someone ignoring a potential scum and throwing out random votes for weak cases. Now we may have to wait another day or two to see these patterns. In the meantime we shouldn't waste too much time on the day one proceedings. No case was solid, I admit even my own was only the most likely (according to me) based on the very little evidence we had to work with.

I suggest we look to Sheltatha, and perhaps why she was off'd. It is possible she was drawing attention to the right scum, who panic killed her off. This is doubtful, especially this early in the game. How stupid would you have to be? Clearly an early move by scum would have diversionary intent. At least, it makes more sense. It was probably to draw attention away from some players. Not those who she suggested were scum, or had scummy behaviour. It is most likely that the scum want our attention on her, and who she interacted with. I bet that our scum are among those who had little to no interaction with Sheltatha. I realize that she and I exchanged jokes early game, and you might think I'm just trying to avoid notice, but it's painfully clear that our exchanges were clearly rp nonsense. I think my suggestion makes the most sense and I hope it does to you all as well, but feel free to shut it down if I've overlooked something. We can't really afford to let the scum pick us apart while we remain indecisive.

I'm going out for diner, but I'll be back in an hour or so. I'll see about gathering some posts together.

Erm, translation:

"I have no intention of responding to accusations against me and all day 1 cases should be thrown out the window and we should look for scum.

Also, some delicious WIFOM.

Peace, yo."

Ok, I'm short on time and can't really go in detail atm, but yeah, I think that's a funny post.

[Spite]

Silanah, on 17 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 17 July 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 17 July 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Hour and a half till lynch, I smell a no-lynch, and that makes me sad!

I am around, so will move my vote if necessary to get a lynch, but for now I still like Karosis best.

There's no problem with a no-lynch. Day 1 lynches are generall good because they provide information for day 2, but if it's not going to happen, there's no reason to force it. A dozen votes suddenly piling on at the last second just to have a lynch doesn't get any extra info. So let it time-out, I say, at this point we won't get anything more.

Though you're generally right, I still disagree with the 'there's no problem with a no-lynch' statement. Regardless of whether it's done in the last hour of the day, I would rather have a lynch then to make the game longer for no reason. Without a lynch, or at least something close to a lynch, we get zero information. I dunno, I think it's pretty scummy to say it's okay not to lynch. If there are no roled town, then the lynch is our only means to get rid of scum. Better to lynch randomly and possibly land on scum then to not lynch at all. At least in the former, there's a small percentage of a chance to hit scum.

This is that post from the previous page. I agree with Silanah because without the lynch, we HAVE no information for day 2. Even forcing a lynch (which is really only a must on day 1) is better than a no lynch, because we get to see a CF and a train. Instead all we have is people WIFOMing the hell out of everything, mostly because that's all there is to do. We can still look at the train but because we don't know the alignment of the lynch target it's almost useless. I'm kicking myself for not being around at timeout.

Anyway, I still need to do more than skim, but Anthras is appearing the most scummy at the moment, based on what I've read, and all the RP nonsense he's filled the thread with. I should have more time later tonight to reread.

[Atrahal]

Spite, on 17 July 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 17 July 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

I'm not even going to bother responding to Kaschan's suggestion that I was signalling anyone; I've already expressed how stupid such an action would be day one, regardless of role. I very much doubt any claim of signalling is true at this stage, regardless of who it is. Like I said, it is more likely that we spot the symp by case and vote patterns. Specifically we should look for someone diverting attention, but perhaps more importantly, someone ignoring a potential scum and throwing out random votes for weak cases. Now we may have to wait another day or two to see these patterns. In the meantime we shouldn't waste too much time on the day one proceedings. No case was solid, I admit even my own was only the most likely (according to me) based on the very little evidence we had to work with.

I suggest we look to Sheltatha, and perhaps why she was off'd. It is possible she was drawing attention to the right scum, who panic killed her off. This is doubtful, especially this early in the game. How stupid would you have to be? Clearly an early move by scum would have diversionary intent. At least, it makes more sense. It was probably to draw attention away from some players. Not those who she suggested were scum, or had scummy behaviour. It is most likely that the scum want our attention on her, and who she interacted with. I bet that our scum are among those who had little to no interaction with Sheltatha. I realize that she and I exchanged jokes early game, and you might think I'm just trying to avoid notice, but it's painfully clear that our exchanges were clearly rp nonsense. I think my suggestion makes the most sense and I hope it does to you all as well, but feel free to shut it down if I've overlooked something. We can't really afford to let the scum pick us apart while we remain indecisive.

I'm going out for diner, but I'll be back in an hour or so. I'll see about gathering some posts together.

Erm, translation:

"I have no intention of responding to accusations against me and all day 1 cases should be thrown out the window and we should look for scum.

Also, some delicious WIFOM.

Peace, yo."

Ok, I'm short on time and can't really go in detail atm, but yeah, I think that's a funny post.

No. just no. I did not avoid responding, I had already done so. Go find the post. I'm back, obviously, and I'm going to go through Sheltatha's posts.