[Anthras]

Karosis, on 17 July 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Signalling cases are shit and we've never caught scum off any of them so far. I'm not following scum onto a train like that. They normally are careful with their posts and want to avoid day one as much as possible. It is possible Fener or Kalse could be scum and come on late in the day but i'm doubtful.

Sorrit, Kaschan (who was on before but didn't post), Ano amp and Korv are the ones that are most likely to harbour some scum. You cannot prove that with Kaschan but he was definitely naked and on thread earlier.

I'm voting fener for lack of posts but that was just to try and prod him into action.

Especially since you're the focus of one, right? just kidding, I know our Day 1 signal cases provide little in the way of accuracy, but the thread is actually showing some life.

Kaschan lurking, that's interesting.

Vote Kaschan

Let's hear some explanations, yo

we cannot lynch based on this though can we? You're only taking my word for it unless someone else seen it? The reason I mentioned it is because before lunch I was posting asking if anyone was around and then I scrolled down and his name was there. So I left for lunch expecting him to have posted when I come back but nothing.

[Karosis]

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

I popped into the thread earlier on my phone before leaving for work to see what was going on. Clearly I forgot to sign in anonymously if someone noticed in those 2 minutes. What makes you suspicious about Sorrit, Ano, and Korv, yet you disregard the people who've already been discussed as potentially scummy?

1 minute later, you must win some sort of prize

[Anomandaris]

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Signalling cases are shit and we've never caught scum off any of them so far. I'm not following scum onto a train like that. They normally are careful with their posts and want to avoid day one as much as possible. It is possible Fener or Kalse could be scum and come on late in the day but i'm doubtful.

Sorrit, Kaschan (who was on before but didn't post), Ano amp and Korv are the ones that are most likely to harbour some scum. You cannot prove that with Kaschan but he was definitely naked and on thread earlier.

I'm voting fener for lack of posts but that was just to try and prod him into action.

You could almost accuse anyone really, because there is so little content, some people have a high number of spam posts, which Silanah took exception to a couple of pages back but on the whole until right about now there have been only a handful of posts that do not appear to be spam.

[Path-Shaper]

Also, I get a 404 on the manager so doing things by hand now. - T.

[Korvalain]

Wait a second, Fener is in this game?

Ahah! We have our scum.

remove vote

Vote fener

[Anthras]

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

I popped into the thread earlier on my phone before leaving for work to see what was going on. Clearly I forgot to sign in anonymously if someone noticed in those 2 minutes. What makes you suspicious about Sorrit, Ano, and Korv, yet you disregard some of the people who've already been discussed as potentially scummy?

edit: It's 8:43. You probably saw me lurking at around 7:30 before I left my home.

Er, This aimed at me?

First off, for someone accused of lurking it is pretty convenient of you to appear almost straight after being voted for. That smacks of er lurking especially when you said nothing before this post.

I'm suspicious of everyone. I don't have a feel for anyone yet.

No one has been discussed as scummy, just little tidbits with little to go on.

[Kaschan]

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

I popped into the thread earlier on my phone before leaving for work to see what was going on. Clearly I forgot to sign in anonymously if someone noticed in those 2 minutes. What makes you suspicious about Sorrit, Ano, and Korv, yet you disregard some of the people who've already been discussed as potentially scummy?

edit: It's 8:43. You probably saw me lurking at around 7:30 before I left my home.

Er, This aimed at me?

First off, for someone accused of lurking it is pretty convenient of you to appear almost straight after being voted for. That smacks of er lurking especially when you said nothing before this post.

I'm suspicious of everyone. I don't have a feel for anyone yet.

No one has been discussed as scummy, just little tidbits with little to go on.

That was a response to you, x-posted with Karosis. Sorry. It just so happens that lunchtime in GMT coincides with my arrival at work, which is why I'm appearing now that the thread is picking up.

[Anthras]

Karosis, on 17 July 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I don't see why scum would need to signal each other. Maybe this is not as complex as other games but scum normally start off by knowing each other, it is one of their advantages over us, they have more information.

disagree, normally at this level of low TDMI/M&P the symp knows the killer, but the killer doesn't know his symp, that's why potential signalling is alarming - the symp must identify himself to the killer without being caught

which is dangerous and never works or i haven't seen it.

[Kaschan]

Karosis, on 17 July 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 17 July 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

I popped into the thread earlier on my phone before leaving for work to see what was going on. Clearly I forgot to sign in anonymously if someone noticed in those 2 minutes. What makes you suspicious about Sorrit, Ano, and Korv, yet you disregard the people who've already been discussed as potentially scummy?

1 minute later, you must win some sort of prize

That was to Anthras, posted via fast reply instead of a quote. So 7 minutes, with about 4 people posting before I finished typing my reply.

[Anthras]

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Wait a second, Fener is in this game?

Ahah! We have our scum.

remove vote

Vote fener

Kaschan is being discussed and Korv comes on and votes Fener. Joke vote or not this could be deflection

[Anthras]

Sorry Kasch but unless someone else picks up something I think we've got scum in you. One slip is all it takes and I think we have that in what you've done.

The speed of your response is worrying.

How long does it take you to get to work?

[Korvalain]

Karosis, on 17 July 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

Korbas, it's not nice to make death threats

Evon though Simon is a douche, he is usually right

This is the most suspicious post so far, to me. Can't tell if putting pressure as RI, signaling as symp, or trying to create suspicion as killer.

He would be a safe lynch, imo.

[Korvalain]

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Wait a second, Fener is in this game?

Ahah! We have our scum.

remove vote

Vote fener

Kaschan is being discussed and Korv comes on and votes Fener. Joke vote or not this could be deflection

I don't agree with the Kaschan case. (Unless I'm crossposting with some new evidence, since I'm mobile with slow thumbs). I believe his story.

[Anthras]

See Korv popping up when i'm applying pressure to Kasch?

Well Kasch since seeing you on here and your first post it's been around 2 hours

[Kaschan]

@Anthras: All I'm saying is that a few people are noted as potentially signaling. Then you throw down a few names and say that they are our most likely scum, including people who have previously garnered little to no discussion. Of the 3-4 people who have been discussed thus far, you omit all but 1 of them (even ones that were discussed in the context of Amp, the only 1 you kept in your list). What's your reasoning for omitting them but not Amp if you dislike day 1 signaling cases in general?

[Anthras]

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 July 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Wait a second, Fener is in this game?

Ahah! We have our scum.

remove vote

Vote fener

Kaschan is being discussed and Korv comes on and votes Fener. Joke vote or not this could be deflection

I don't agree with the Kaschan case. (Unless I'm crossposting with some new evidence, since I'm mobile with slow thumbs). I believe his story.

so you vote fener and point at Korbas saying he is most scummy. That's two people in 5 minutes.

[Korvalain]

Though with 5 hours left I will vote him to get a lynch. I just think that's a shitty reason to be lynched, and meta besides.


Meta = information that other players could not possibly have.

Using meta in a case is bad. This is why its in the rules to sign in anonymously.

[Kaschan]

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Sorry Kasch but unless someone else picks up something I think we've got scum in you. One slip is all it takes and I think we have that in what you've done.

The speed of your response is worrying.

How long does it take you to get to work?

I hopped on at 7:30ish, then ate breakfast and left for work, which is over half an hour away. I arrived about 15 minutes late to work since my boss doesn't mind and took care of all my work-related emails before checking mafia.

[Silanah]

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Signalling cases are shit and we've never caught scum off any of them so far. I'm not following scum onto a train like that. They normally are careful with their posts and want to avoid day one as much as possible. It is possible Fener or Kalse could be scum and come on late in the day but i'm doubtful.

Sorrit, Kaschan (who was on before but didn't post), Ano amp and Korv are the ones that are most likely to harbour some scum. You cannot prove that with Kaschan but he was definitely naked and on thread earlier.

I'm voting fener for lack of posts but that was just to try and prod him into action.

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I don't see why scum would need to signal each other. Maybe this is not as complex as other games but scum normally start off by knowing each other, it is one of their advantages over us, they have more information.

Karosis, on 17 July 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 17 July 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I don't see why scum would need to signal each other. Maybe this is not as complex as other games but scum normally start off by knowing each other, it is one of their advantages over us, they have more information.

disagree, normally at this level of low TDMI/M&P the symp knows the killer, but the killer doesn't know his symp, that's why potential signalling is alarming - the symp must identify himself to the killer without being caught

Nothing anywhere said anything about there being a symp, so I think you're just making an assumption based on previous games. Or you're a symp and accidentally put that out there. As it stands, I don't believe there's any reason to signal anyone. Not to mention I have to agree with Anthras re: signalling never working. If the signal is obvious enough for the killers to pick it up, it's almost definitely obvious enough for the rest of thread to pick it up. And honestly, just cherry picking one of the many possible 'signalling' posts out of all the Day 1 spam is as weak a case as you can get, as far as I am concerned. I know I currently fall into the group of low-ish posters, but I did not feel the need to over-spam the Day 1 crap. I made a couple of 'video' posts and crap like that, then left it at that. Heck, one of my posts even makes a small case against someone (i.e. Spite) rather than just being spam. I'm making an effort to actually play the game and you're willing to lynch me for it?

[Korvalain]

@Anthras

Quit trying to bully me into following your opinion. I'm forming my own. Just because it happens to be in the middle of what you believe is a big slip, doesn't make me a deflector.