[Rashan]

Emurlahn, on 12 July 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Night???? Day is going to time out in about 4 hours.

Day, Night, it's all the same to me.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Someone should have gotten that info up here sooner. If Kaschan hadn't said there was only 1 cult in the living thread at the end of day, I would have thought everyone who has came up here from SH had to be scum, because none of them helped provide ANY of the useful info that SH has been coming up with. It makes me wonder why.

The reason 'why' is, for me, very simple: I wasn't sure I understood it correctly even when I was double-reading it in SH, and I therefore couldn't reproduce it here. I play from 3 different locations, each a different station, and I'll be damned if I am going to take a blocnote around. Furthermore, my bed times roughly correspond with the hotbed of conversation in SH, and twice now I have woken up in the morning, checked my phone and seen I was allocated a different alt. As such, my info is a few steps behind on actual proceedings and latest revelations. So that particular remark, good sir, is under the belt.


There is however one major point I'd like your opinion on (and that of Kalse).
You said Kalse implicitly trusts his contact. I remember a post (mostly because it set my alarm bells ringing) upon my return to SH in the Anomandaris guise (so it was from day 3, iirc), in which Kalse mentioned that he had no way to check his partner's information and that it might be he was consistently lied to. A small chance of that perhaps, but he felt it was worthy mentioning. Has that point of view changed?

I'd suggest I'd be flash-voted by Kalse if he now implicitly trusts his partner.

[Telas]

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Since I'm stumbling around blindly in the dark, I might as well latch onto what appears to be fair info. I will go ahead and share what little I have.

My ability isn't terribly helpful IMO, but it may shed some light on today. I can tell if someone has taken a night action or not. It could make a difference today given what we appear to know about cult on thread. I was suspicious of D'riss today because I chose him on night 2 and my action seemed to have been blocked. This could be related to Liosan's alleged targeting of me NIght 2 to receive actions aimed at him, but it seemed a fair point to work on. I became less suspicious of Tellan, because he was my target last night and apparently took no night action. He was on thread before night timed out. I assumed that if he was the recruiter, he would have taken an action and he had the opportunity to put in an action. A lack of action made him less suspicious.

That being said, if there is really still only one cult on thread, he could have withheld or something else happened. So....yeah, not really that helpful unfortunately.

[Tellan]

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Due to SH factors, I am less suspicious of D'riss. But When there is a spat like that that makes both participants seem suspicious, when one is (almost completely) cleared, it makes the other one look more suspicious. I'm not going to vote Rashan yet, but I will if we agree that we should lynch him. I also have him down to die if we no-lynch, for now.
@Tennes: The information that you just gave us is IMO what we have needed from SH. We were completely blind before, and now we have a small keychain flashlight to see.

[Rashan]

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

[Telas]

Let's get SH to flash vote then to back him up (or not).

[Rashan]

Also, i'm quite happy i'm Gau on the list.

[Rashan]

Also a source told us that SL was town at the end of Night 1, and Rashan at the end of Night 2. But this CANNOT BE VERIFIED.- Tennes

If i was Town Night 2, then i was scum Night 3 too. If i would've been recruited it would've been last night, but that didn't happen. Again, this was prevented due to Puppy Eyes, which resolves before anything else so it's the perfect defensive ability. D'riss can doubt my ability however much he wants, but it's still there.

Edit: Typo

Edit #2: Undid original edit (which occured 20 minutes after posting) -PS

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

[Tellan]

Telas, on 12 July 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

Let's get SH to flash vote then to back him up (or not).

I agree with this. Thats the only way to get an unbiased (as far as we know) opinion

[Emurlahn]

Telas, on 12 July 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

Let's get SH to flash vote then to back him up (or not).

Agreed. For now

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[Rashan]

But we need.to hear from Thyrllan and Osseric. Osseric can CF dead people. He was suppose to CF Liosan for us last night. - Tennes


Tennes, does this mean that he was going to CF Liosan the night you were brought back and that you don't know the results, or that he was supposed to but didn't CF Liosan?

[Tellan]

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

I see your point, but there is only 1 scum. So no defending the master going on here.

[Rashan]

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

I see your point, but there is only 1 scum. So no defending the master going on here.

Pray tell, how do you know there is only 1 scum for sure?

[Ruse]

I'm back, what's the timer situation?

I see the huge info dump, need some time to look at it - but it's similar to what I was seeing in SH, but evolved

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 12 July 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

I'm back, what's the timer situation?

I see the huge info dump, need some time to look at it - but it's similar to what I was seeing in SH, but evolved

A few hours i think.

[Tellan]

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

I see your point, but there is only 1 scum. So no defending the master going on here.

Pray tell, how do you know there is only 1 scum for sure?

The information from the player I trust almost the most: Kaschan. But I still need to wait for confirmation from the flash votes.

[Rashan]

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

I see your point, but there is only 1 scum. So no defending the master going on here.

Pray tell, how do you know there is only 1 scum for sure?

The information from the player I trust almost the most: Kaschan. But I still need to wait for confirmation from the flash votes.

But it could be Tennes saying "Kaschan said x".

[Tellan]

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

Rashan, on 12 July 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thing is, how can we trust Tennes? Most of those that come from SH obviously don't know this information, i just find it odd that he comes with this information when D'riss needs more votes against me. But, do what you want, just don't be surprised when you lynch me and Scum wins.

I see your point, but there is only 1 scum. So no defending the master going on here.

Pray tell, how do you know there is only 1 scum for sure?

The information from the player I trust almost the most: Kaschan. But I still need to wait for confirmation from the flash votes.

But it could be Tennes saying "Kaschan said x".

That's why I'm waiting for the flash votes to confirm it.

[Rashan]

I'd like to get a flash-vote confirmation on Liosan too, still feels like he's town. But after all the other flash-vote things. Also, flashvotes suck when PS isn't around.

[Tennes]

Well, I would like to see what Osseric's find on Liosan was. If Liosan is scum, then it would put to rest whether Kalse's source is trusted. If he's not scum, it doesn't mean anything. Just means we all went for someone we thought was scum. I don't think there's any possibility that Kalse can't be trusted. And in answer to SL, I thought Kalse said he was sure of his contact being town. He wouldn't keep the same guy if he didn't. I'm sure he mentioned being able to switch.

Also Telas, Kaschans find is at the end of the day, not the night. I may have worded it wrong. After Liosan's lynch last night, Kaschan said only one cult on thread. So if we trust the town finds, SL night 1 - could still be recruited, Rashan night 2 - could still be recruited by now, Telas town as of last night I THINK - so has to be town, Tellan as of night 2 or 3 - could be recruited last night, D'riss is cleared because he wouldn't be clear ANYONE if he was cult, and then we have alt changes.

I have to refrain from building my own cases, and SH understands why, but I think its possible that Ruse is one of the scum recruits. I'd like him to explain if his action was offensive or defensive. If he doesn't I could test it the hard way.

Osseric? Liosan CF?

Kaschan, can we trust the clearing of SL and Rashan or not? Did you come up with anything further?

For now I think Kalse and D'riss vote Rashan for their above reasons.
Liosan votes Rashan for revenge if Liosan is scum, and it doesn't matter if Liosan is town. We can't ask, anyway.

Kalse can you signal me your second choice behind Rashan, assuming he recruited last night? If it is Rashan, and he only has one recruit, who would you say. I'll try to take a deeper look. End things tonight.