[Ruse]

he probably edited calling me a poo-poo face or somesuch

@D'riss - maybe you can go first to get the snacks ready

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 16 hours and 47 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Rashan, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch.

3 Votes for Tellan ( Sheltatha Lore, Emurlahn, Fener )
2 Votes for Rashan ( D'riss, Kalse )
2 Votes for D'riss ( Telas, Rashan )

[Rashan]

Dead thread is dead.

[Tellan]

Yep it is. I'm back from an exhausting day on the beach, and having just caught up, I want to say that D'riss's actions today were so nonsensical and unhelpful, I need to vote for him to let out the part of me that is reasonable.
Vote D'riss

[Ruse]

people are lurking, 6 anons

which of D'riss' actions do you mean?

[Rashan]

Tellan, on 11 July 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yep it is. I'm back from an exhausting day on the beach, and having just caught up, I want to say that D'riss's actions today were so nonsensical and unhelpful, I need to vote for him to let out the part of me that is reasonable.
Vote D'riss

Beach partaaaaay!

[Tellan]

The relentless quoting of Rashan, blinkering himself to any case other than Rash's, ignoring questions, etc

[Tellan]

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Tellan, on 11 July 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yep it is. I'm back from an exhausting day on the beach, and having just caught up, I want to say that D'riss's actions today were so nonsensical and unhelpful, I need to vote for him to let out the part of me that is reasonable.
Vote D'riss

Beach partaaaaay!

Hehe, Joisey shoow beach partay

[Rashan]

So. What now.

[Rashan]

Going to bed for now, i'll see you all tomorrow.

[Ruse]

everybody looking to make this page last the rest of the game...

I would still like some sign from SH about D'riss - I noticed Fener was on and did not vote, but it would be uncertain to infer from that, maybe he didn't read or won't cooperate, but he's not voting D'riss - I'm gonna wait on this

We've got to hear from Tennes



where's my gut when I need it?

bedtime

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 10 hours and 42 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Rashan, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch.

3 Votes for Rashan ( D'riss, Kalse, Liosan )
4 Votes for Tellan ( Sheltatha Lore, Emurlahn, Fener, Anomandaris )
3 Votes for D'riss ( Telas, Rashan, Tellan )

[Tennes]

Well. Where to start. I have a great deal of information to share. I'm not going to reveal my identity, yet. I'm going to speak on behalf of SH for now. They all know who I am down there, and they will be able to verify any information I give.

Kaschan. Down there Kaschan has been building many helpful lists. To be fair, Kaschan hasn't been TOTALLY cleared as town yet, but for the most part he seems to work towards towns goals. As the scholar, one of his abilities is to get a scum count at the end of each day. These are his calculations. He can verify this. In fact Kalse can also verify this. Kalse is in direct contact with someone up here, but I'm not going to reveal who because it's not mine to reveal. We trust Kalse probably the most of anyone. Anyway, Kaschan said there were 2 scum at the end of Day 1. (I can't read his post so I'm doing this from memory, Kalse correct me if I'm wrong)
-assumed recruit night 1 = 3.
-end of night 2 scum count was 2 I believe. Assumed night recruit =3.
-end of night 3 scum count was only 1. That means 2 of 3 were scum(Osseric, barghast, Anom) assume recruit at night.
-end of night 4 scum still at ONLY ONE. So either LIOSAN WAS SCUM or no recruit. Or Kaschan is lying to us. Kalse and his source thought Liosan may have been cult CL. OSSERIC WAS SUPPOSE TO CF LIOSAN LAST NIGHT. OSSERIC, RESULTS?

So most stuff is our speculation. What we THINK is that, assuming Kaschan can be trusted, the cult count was ONE right after Liosan lynch. That means that we THINK that means out of the 7 living players along with Liosan at the time of his lynch, we only had one scum out of those 7. Has to be the CL? And if true this may clear Kaschan, but even if he is scum, he could still tell the truth. Serc, Fener(FM Fener), Liosan, Thyrllan, Kalse, Kaschan, and Osseric: It's possible that maybe 3 or so of these are cult.
Another thing, we ALL discuss a target before voting so far. Just because you saw, for example last night, three of us vote there at the end back to back or near the same time, dont mean it wasn't discussed first. When Liosan was L-2 last night, Barghast waited for Kalse to talk to his source and make up his mind, then they both voted. Same thing happened with Thyrllan and Osseric. No one is just spaz voting. Kaschan gave the final ok on the Thyrllan vote, and even tried to remove his vote at one point, but too late. With the Osseric vote, Barghast wanted to vote Tellan, but went with everyone else on Osseric, even asking if they were sure before voting. The thread up here just sees half the story.

Last night's lynch was SH unanimous. All 7 of us went for Liosan because Thyrllan used Boo on her to reveal her as styggian witch/hag. Plus Kalse's source also said she thougt it was Liosan. For the record Kalse's source has been helping us a lot. She's helped us with the Osseric and Liosan lynch. And no one knows for sure who is CFing right. I mean we've killed at least 3 or 4 cult. So someone who was cult CFed town. So I'd say that Kalse is the most trused person in SH. Even alone, he seems to have a good beat on things, but he's also got communication with this thread, so he's by far the most informed. Until we know otherwise we're assuming that we've been right in some of our lynched. The entire thread can't be town, though. And Kalse died before recruiting started, so he's the only person we can be absolutely sure has not been recruited.

So as of last night we had come to these conclusions. Telas, Tellan, Rashan, D'riss, and SL are the last 5 places to search for CL. It's possible that Liosan may have been CL, and that whole thing with Rashan was a switch to Rashan being CL. But we need.to hear from Thyrllan and Osseric. Osseric can CF dead people. He was suppose to CF Liosan for us last night.

Kalse said his source cleared Tellan the night we were going to lynch her, so we lynched Osseric instead.
Telas we aren't too worried about.
Also a source told us that SL was town at the end of Night 1, and Rashan at the end of Night 2. But this CANNOT BE VERIFIED.

I want to hear from Kalse, Kaschan, and Thyrllan. Thyrllan obviously used his Boo on the Jheck Warrior. I want to know why.

As of last night Kaschan and I were investigating some possible Rashan discrepancies. And if Kalse is thinking Rashan is our next best target, then I'm probably going to have to agree.

SL is wearing white robes and doesn't fit the bill for an evil aligned role. Not saying he hasn't been recruited, but doubtful CL if Eloth is now in the body. Don't imagine the CL would be able to swap with someone from SH.

We were worried somewhat about the purple haired lady, though. If Osseric and Thyrllan can be trusted, then the purple haired worried them two, I think it was them two. I'd ask if anything needs to be corrected, let Kalse know. With that said, we actually had to pause on that for now. If the purple haired lady is who we think, then I wasn't worried.

Telas seems the least suspicious to me.

D'riss I trust for now. We have reason to believe D'riss based on his voting with us on the previous 3 lynches. He's the only living person we believe that was on our side all 3 times. He was the only living person period that voted with us last lynch. Everyone else is ok with sitting back and letting others either do the work, or put their own head on the line.

Tellan was cleared by D'riss on Night 3 I think it was, but we don't like the Herald of Death reveal. In the reading we figure the 3 neutral cards, Orb Ob Apoc, represent our story. "If we do the right thing, etc, we can prevent the end of world," that whole thing.

The other 10 cards were for the 10 of us alive. Kaschan has a different version, but with Tellan reveal, I made changes.

Priest and Weaver of Life: SL
Builder and Maiden of Light: Emurlahn(Eloth)
Hunter: Rashan
Merc: Telas
Herald of Death: Tellan
Soldier of Dark: D'riss
Consort in Chains: Liosan
Cripple in Chains: Osseric
Fool in Chains: FM
Virgin of Death: Anom

FF6 characters:
Fener(FM) - Shadow
Eloth - Relm Arrowy, Shadows Daughter
Osseric - Gogo
Jheck warrior - Umaro
Purple Hair - Rachel
Rashan - Gau
Barghast - Setzer
Tellan - Terra
Anomandaris - Celes or maybe even Cyan' s wife
SL - Strago Magus
Liosan - we thought he was Kefka, the main villain. Kefka is known as the Trickster, and uses illusions to kill. Thought he was disguising his appearance.

The 3 stone cards represent the Espers. These 3 cards were placed on top of 3 living cards, telling which hosted which esper. The Apostles'eyds were tied to the Jaghut somehow, and Bearer Shaped Walker are from the Ice Hold.

It may be nothing but the Apocalypse card supposedly represents that whole Rakaru desert whirlwind Drydhna thing.

These probably aren't important, just character creation basis, but the one about the FM being Shadow is worth googling, IMO. Especially the part where he starts off appearing to help Kefkas army, but switches to help the Returners I think they were called in the end.

I believe that's the basis. Some things we'll have to withhold for now.

So for the most part, I'm with Kalse. I just wonder if they figured out something new. Make it count guys. Are we sure?

I hate to give you the excuse that "because Kalse said so" as my reason for voting, but it's what we trust for now.

It's my pure guess that the other two Espers may be the Phoenix, responsible for resurrection, and Odin, the king of the Espers in FF6 and some type of unread, lich-like, imo. Google FF6, the War of the Magi. May or may not help.

The Warring Triad, three beings who locked themselves in stone : Demon, Fiend, and Goddess.

That's my information dump. Use it how you like.

We need to figure out the mechanic for getting TRUE CFs as our next move. We're killing blindly. Admit it. We need to be able to know when we've killed cult. It's their biggest defence right now. We can't follow trails, etc.

Lastly, I need to send a message to SH. Unless someone triggers it, my ability isn't available. I can however, passively see certain 'behind the scenes' actions because they're considered to have been done "in the shadows."

Ruse? What the hell was that you were doing in the tunnel where you were sleeping ? Is that a defensive thing, or are you trying to kill everyone ?

So Ruse is the same guy, Eloth went from SH Anom to SL, Emur is the same guy?

I can see Serc being brought back in a new alt. Same thing happened to Eloth at first. The Eloth - Anom switch was.odd, though. But they had both been dead at one point.

It's extremely odd that SL, the white mage and self proclaimed priest, who hasn't died, would go into a dead Anom ghost, and that Eloth would go into SL. Kalse, can you guys confirm that the SL in SH seems trust-worthy?

I may look into Ruse more carefully, something seems odd. You have only voted ONCE as far as I remember. And that was for Thyrllan as Barghast the time you voted and pissed Telas off. You didn't vote at all as Serc in SH.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tennes, first, thanks for getting right what I couldn't even express. One question: who were you in SH?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

Well. Where to start. I have a great deal of information to share. I'm not going to reveal my identity, yet. I'm going to speak on behalf of SH for now. They all know who I am down there, and they will be able to verify any information I give.

Ah, scratch that. I think I *may* know, though. Now to figure out if that is 100% good news.

[Emurlahn]

That is a lot of new information to consider, Tennes.

Tennes, on 12 July 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

As of last night Kaschan and I were investigating some possible Rashan discrepancies. And if Kalse is thinking Rashan is our next best target, then I'm probably going to have to agree.

Since you seem to want to go for Rashan, can you please explain what those discrepancies are?

[Tennes]

Don't look at it as good or bad news. Look at it from the point of trust. And then you might say, well can I or can't I trust you.

The answer is, you don't have to do either. I can't expect to convince anyone that I'm a victim to mechanics. Anyone would be stupid to take that chance. That's why I haven't put anyone in that position. The full extent of my contributions won't be even known or appreciated until either much later, or after the game. Until then I've just followed someone else's lead. Someone I know I can fully trust. I don't ask people to take my word for anything. Everything I said above is verifiable information from a collection of sources from mostly SH.

SH has most of the better abilities. And you don't have to worry about using them or talking about them in the open, because you don't have to worry about being recruited. Of course you can't know who's also watching from cult, but it's info that mostly helps town. Cult knows how many they have more than likely. Unless the CL has a bad drinking problem. So that info definitely helps town A LOT. Someone should have gotten that info up here sooner. If Kaschan hadn't said there was only 1 cult in the living thread at the end of day, I would have thought everyone who has came up here from SH had to be scum, because none of them helped provide ANY of the useful info that SH has been coming up with. It makes me wonder why.

Most to all of the info I gave is useful to town more than cult, and the rest of it is just game background info speculation.

Knowing why D'rek chose to give someone red hair doesn't help the game in any way. We just thought it was fun way to pass the time. I bit of it did give me some good theories into possible game mechanics, but mostly it was just flavor research.

I think the War of the Magi story might give some clues, and I think Shadows character definitely helps explain some possible reasons for some very odd things.

I'm in a tough spot sometimes. I think my main ability may be on a timer or based off other players specific actions. And even if I was to be able to regain it, I'd then be forced into another hard decision. Either not act on it, and not 'darken my soul' or risk a chance at another scum. If I go too far, my Your soul slips further into the shadows. If you choose to go too far, the Abyss may claim you. This is a fate worse than death. And also (not sure about this, OP says reveals are ok, but I can't say the part in red) Unwitnessed is the only word repeated again not in red. Maybe someone can figure it out. (Erase this if not ok, but I didn't mention the red)


@Emurlahn - Kaschan noticed that a source ( not revealing sources to living thread but this is info available to everyone in assuming) that had cleared SL as town on Night 1 and cleared Rashan as town on Night 2, in a later post said he couldn't use his ability while dead( which is an alignment finder ). So Kaschan wondered how he used it. Then Kaschan said that this same source was one of our scum ghosts, although he had moved back to living thread. It's hard to remember exactly, but he thought that if this source was lying about his abilities or anything else, then he was probably scum, and if he was saying SL and Rashan had came back town night 1 and 2, then he was possibly covering for one or both. But Kaschan himself had said the cult count was only 1 right after Liosan lynch, and this source was already back in living thread. It meant this possibly cleared the source as town, so why would he be lying. I don't have the post, so I'm trying to remember exactly. It was posted last minute right before night ended. Only read it quickly. I think Kaschan was tired, too. It was hard to follow. My thought is that maybe its possible that scum in SH, won't come up as scum when in the alt of a non-scum. I would need to either read the post again, or talk to Kaschan. Mostly though, if Kalse is saying Rashan, then we should at least listen carefully. He's sure his contact here is town, so if he's linked with him, I'm sure he'd know. Plus his source hasn't did anything but try to hunt down scum. I hope that answered it.

Kalse, I'd really like to hear what Osserics finding said. If Liosan really was scum, that will vindicate your sources next choices even more. I wanted to know why Thyrllan Boo'ed the Jheck, was he signalling? Signal signal? I'll be back at least 2 hours before time out. Hold for me if you can. I'd like some input on a possible 'choice' if I regain it.

[Emurlahn]

I know who the source is you are speaking about, but I still don't quite get the discrepancy you were talking about. The main issue I see here is with the source might being a scum ghost, though from what you say, Kaschans ability seems to clear that source from that.

[Rashan]

Holy shitballs batman, i'm going to get caught up on Tennes' two posts. Night should time out soon-ish, shouldn't it?

[Emurlahn]

Night???? Day is going to time out in about 4 hours.