[D'riss]

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thing is, if you're wrong, i'm Town, you'll sacrifice yourself, you're Town, two townies lynched. Assuming Scum has a nightly recruit ability, they might reach majority by then, depending on their current scumcount.
I'll admit i'm a tad confused about who's who with all the swipping and the swapping and the whatnots. (Ignore the fact that swipping isn't a real word, it just fit in the sentence.)

I am not wrong. Your are a Bahamudite not a member of town.

So you won't even consider the chance that i'm Town? Because that's a horrible mindset, son.

Don't need to. I have laid my cards on the table. You have not played like town. You have not helped in anyway what so ever in any discussion about the cult. You are not town. You are a Bahamudite.

And, pray, how have you helped? You've just been lying low until you got voted for.

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thing is, if you're wrong, i'm Town, you'll sacrifice yourself, you're Town, two townies lynched. Assuming Scum has a nightly recruit ability, they might reach majority by then, depending on their current scumcount.
I'll admit i'm a tad confused about who's who with all the swipping and the swapping and the whatnots. (Ignore the fact that swipping isn't a real word, it just fit in the sentence.)

I am not wrong. Your are a Bahamudite not a member of town.

So you won't even consider the chance that i'm Town? Because that's a horrible mindset, son.

Don't need to. I have laid my cards on the table. You have not played like town. You have not helped in anyway what so ever in any discussion about the cult. You are not town. You are a Bahamudite.

And, pray, how have you helped? You've just been lying low until you got voted for.

And when you do start posting, it's to just quote me and comment on every comment with "Spam".

This WTF is this shit. More spam on shit. I built my case on you today and now I am going to do other shit. I stated on thread that I am not going to remove my vote. You are a Bahamudite. Everything you say is a lie. I have pointed it out time and time again. You offer bullshit excuses. You have done nothing this entire game but SPAM. Now you are trying to get so much spam inbetween my case and the end of the thread that you are quoting the posts that you just made. Pathetic

[Rashan]

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thing is, if you're wrong, i'm Town, you'll sacrifice yourself, you're Town, two townies lynched. Assuming Scum has a nightly recruit ability, they might reach majority by then, depending on their current scumcount.
I'll admit i'm a tad confused about who's who with all the swipping and the swapping and the whatnots. (Ignore the fact that swipping isn't a real word, it just fit in the sentence.)

I am not wrong. Your are a Bahamudite not a member of town.

So you won't even consider the chance that i'm Town? Because that's a horrible mindset, son.

Don't need to. I have laid my cards on the table. You have not played like town. You have not helped in anyway what so ever in any discussion about the cult. You are not town. You are a Bahamudite.

And, pray, how have you helped? You've just been lying low until you got voted for.

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thing is, if you're wrong, i'm Town, you'll sacrifice yourself, you're Town, two townies lynched. Assuming Scum has a nightly recruit ability, they might reach majority by then, depending on their current scumcount.
I'll admit i'm a tad confused about who's who with all the swipping and the swapping and the whatnots. (Ignore the fact that swipping isn't a real word, it just fit in the sentence.)

I am not wrong. Your are a Bahamudite not a member of town.

So you won't even consider the chance that i'm Town? Because that's a horrible mindset, son.

Don't need to. I have laid my cards on the table. You have not played like town. You have not helped in anyway what so ever in any discussion about the cult. You are not town. You are a Bahamudite.

And, pray, how have you helped? You've just been lying low until you got voted for.

And when you do start posting, it's to just quote me and comment on every comment with "Spam".

This WTF is this shit. More spam on shit. I built my case on you today and now I am going to do other shit. I stated on thread that I am not going to remove my vote. You are a Bahamudite. Everything you say is a lie. I have pointed it out time and time again. You offer bullshit excuses. You have done nothing this entire game but SPAM. Now you are trying to get so much spam inbetween my case and the end of the thread that you are quoting the posts that you just made. Pathetic

You've been accusing me of avoiding questions, yet you're doing the same.

What have you done for Town, except making a half-assed "case" against me by just qouting what i said and copy-pasting notes?

[Sheltatha Lore]

I think I will stop being a voice of relative reason and just break out the orange juice, vodka and crisps.

[Rashan]

Sheltatha Lore, on 11 July 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

I think I will stop being a voice of relative reason and just break out the orange juice, vodka and crisps.

Why would you ruin OJ with Vodka?

[D'riss]

Rashan I have built cases on people who I think are scum. I built a case on Osseric I have built two cases on you. You have done nothing? NO cases no reread analysis no nothing.

[D'riss]

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I want several people in SH to vote D'riss and then remove vote so I can see that he is trustworthy.

Several???? I am at l-6 already. Do you want to put me at l-1 so that you can hammer? I want the FM to kill Rashan to prove that he is trust worthy.

[Rashan]

D, on 06 July 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Ok I have done a couple of rereads and the person who I am finding the most suspicious is Osseric.

Starting off

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

Ummm that is the only way that town will win. Someone trying to act like a noob, in a high TMDI game. Please

Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

So you're saying lynching someone you might suspect to be scum is WORSE than getting random people lynched?

That was how I read it.

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

I am saying lynching someone that another faction is going to lynch is like lynching a town knowingly.

I really don't understand this.

Serc, on 04 July 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

Quote

Core Setup:

This is a Town vs Cult game. There are only two factions:

Serc, on 04 July 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

OMG, who says dead are in the town faction?
you are just qouting things and not answering questions,why jumping after dead silanah and not other 2 trains.
and why silanah vote is a scum suspect?

YOU ARE SAYING THERE IS AN EXTRA FACTION WHEN THERE ISN'T/

Extra faction? The OP says town v cult. I think that Drek learned her lession of extra factions not included in the op from the game that shall not be mentioned.

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

It's possible.
but why do you think first res will be cult?

Eh, just making an assumption. I really have no idea at all. Why you so intent on protecting Thyrllan? Do you know something we don't?

ok,answer that for yourself and i will reveal what i know that you don't.

If you know something that the rest of town doesn't then share don't tease.

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 July 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

I suspect that one of the 3 quick voters (Shelly, Serc, & D'riss) may have the power to wield the votes of the dead in SH to form a voting block

Well, all three votes were on different people originally... I don't know, I don't buy it, and I still think that a Thyrllan lynch will provide the most useful information.

I don't really like Ano's case against Osseric/Kaschan. It's based on lots of speculation, and hopeful of dodgy scum play. I highly doubt scum would so overtly protect each other that way.

The case on Thyr is based on speculation even more so, imho.

actually,there is no case against Thyr. only that 3 dead guys voted him and that MAYBE lynching him will give us some info about how to kill people.

@PS: Do town win when all scum are in spectre thread?

It was pretty obvious that the dead were voting as through they were town. They had reasons to be worried about Thy we all did.

I don't like Osserics answers to questions I think that he needs to come clean about what he knows and isn't willing to share with us.

Vote Osseric

This was your Osseric case. I have said the exact same thing, but instead of making one post i did it spread over several posts, because that is how i roll. You even QUOTE me in there. If you made a case against Osseric, then so did i.

[D'riss]

Sheltatha Lore, on 11 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

I still have my original power. Not that it has had any use whatsoever as I haven't been around long enough for it to be effective.


As for looking at SH: three things.
1) Emurlahn already asked a question and I don't want to create a confusing situation;
2) I want to know who Tennes is;
3) and the situation up there has changed a bit. When I first came down, we were with 4 working constructively towards finding scum. As SH gets fuller, but also as people are rotated between SH and game thread, the water gets muddled. Also, for example, Osseric revealed as a dead-people-alignment-finder but all he managed so far, is clearing Thyrllan. He must have done more than that. So yes, I still look towards SH, but I think they may have a different (read: better) grasp of what is going on there. But even so, there is questions asked there over who is scum and who isn't, and therefore who can be trusted up there.

Ok so original power ok. Who do you trust up there?

[D'riss]

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Ok I have done a couple of rereads and the person who I am finding the most suspicious is Osseric.

Starting off

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

Ummm that is the only way that town will win. Someone trying to act like a noob, in a high TMDI game. Please

Rashan, on 04 July 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

So you're saying lynching someone you might suspect to be scum is WORSE than getting random people lynched?

That was how I read it.

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

I am saying lynching someone that another faction is going to lynch is like lynching a town knowingly.

I really don't understand this.

Serc, on 04 July 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Town will not win through lynching after another faction genius!

Quote

Core Setup:

This is a Town vs Cult game. There are only two factions:

Serc, on 04 July 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 July 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

OMG, who says dead are in the town faction?
you are just qouting things and not answering questions,why jumping after dead silanah and not other 2 trains.
and why silanah vote is a scum suspect?

YOU ARE SAYING THERE IS AN EXTRA FACTION WHEN THERE ISN'T/

Extra faction? The OP says town v cult. I think that Drek learned her lession of extra factions not included in the op from the game that shall not be mentioned.

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

It's possible.
but why do you think first res will be cult?

Eh, just making an assumption. I really have no idea at all. Why you so intent on protecting Thyrllan? Do you know something we don't?

ok,answer that for yourself and i will reveal what i know that you don't.

If you know something that the rest of town doesn't then share don't tease.

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 July 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

I suspect that one of the 3 quick voters (Shelly, Serc, & D'riss) may have the power to wield the votes of the dead in SH to form a voting block

Well, all three votes were on different people originally... I don't know, I don't buy it, and I still think that a Thyrllan lynch will provide the most useful information.

I don't really like Ano's case against Osseric/Kaschan. It's based on lots of speculation, and hopeful of dodgy scum play. I highly doubt scum would so overtly protect each other that way.

The case on Thyr is based on speculation even more so, imho.

actually,there is no case against Thyr. only that 3 dead guys voted him and that MAYBE lynching him will give us some info about how to kill people.

@PS: Do town win when all scum are in spectre thread?

It was pretty obvious that the dead were voting as through they were town. They had reasons to be worried about Thy we all did.

I don't like Osserics answers to questions I think that he needs to come clean about what he knows and isn't willing to share with us.

Vote Osseric

This was your Osseric case. I have said the exact same thing, but instead of making one post i did it spread over several posts, because that is how i roll. You even QUOTE me in there. If you made a case against Osseric, then so did i.

You didn't make shit. You bandwagoned and didn't do shit. Just floated by. Make a case over several posts is the case that I made on you earlier. What you do is make a quick one liner and then call several of them a case several days later. Scum move.

[Rashan]

You know what D'riss, i'll say it again, i am Town, i suspect you of being a Bahamudite although i'm not sure, you might just be a Townie on cocaine or something, but i'm going to go do something else until the drugs wear off and you can have a coherent argument that isn't "Everything you say is a lie *Snort* ohmanthisissomegoodstuff You're just posting shit man, bullshit, you're a Bahamudite *Snort* ohmanineedanotherhit Have i told you everything you say is shit and a lie and also bandwagons and strawmanninga'dkfmariy[afgansdng[aor8t gbdfsdjkfsdl

Have fun all.

[D'riss]

Shelly I agree that the thread apathy for town is horrible in this game. I assume that is because the majority of town are in SH and not here.

[Ruse]

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I want several people in SH to vote D'riss and then remove vote so I can see that he is trustworthy.

Several???? I am at l-6 already. Do you want to put me at l-1 so that you can hammer? I want the FM to kill Rashan to prove that he is trust worthy.

don't be like that, I'm trying to find out if you can be trusted, not lynch you

And you mention the FM as if you think he is somehow town's ally...

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I want several people in SH to vote D'riss and then remove vote so I can see that he is trustworthy.

Several???? I am at l-6 already. Do you want to put me at l-1 so that you can hammer? I want the FM to kill Rashan to prove that he is trust worthy.

don't be like that, I'm trying to find out if you can be trusted, not lynch you

And you mention the FM as if you think he is somehow town's ally...

We know the FM is Scum. D'riss asks for the FM to kill me, and he suspects i'm Scum. Therefore, he signals the FM to kill me. Maybe they don't have off-thread communications. This means he wants someone we know is Scum to attack someone he thinks is Scum. This would only work if he is Scum too and he knows i'm Town.

[Sheltatha Lore]

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Shelly I agree that the thread apathy for town is horrible in this game. I assume that is because the majority of town are in SH and not here.

I am not sure about the last part, as we haven't seen a great many CFs and we have all the switching happening.

We know that somewhere on day 1 at the very latest 1 scum was around to receive the Esper.
He has had 4 recruitment attempts if we go by night recruitment, which seems the safest bet. I know that there is a *claimed* guard.
With the current amount of people alive, if all recruitment succeeded and all cult was still alive, we'd be on D-day (majority + 1 = 5 + 1), going by 1 starting scum. Which, incidentally, is why your "lynch me next if I am wrong!" teaser as a leader to lynch Rashan is so damned suspicious. In WCS, if you are scum and Rashan is town, there will be no next day.

Now, how many CFs have we seen that give alignment? A whole lot less, and two of those were about the same person, the Eager Ninja.
If we check how many people have been switched to and fro, then we have a bigger list that could seriously affect distribution of town/scum ratio.
It isn't worse case scenario, but I think scum are likely to at the very most have parity on thread here, and aren't dominant in SH.
That gives both a good chance of the train being predominantly town (thus making it a lynch on the subject most town consider scum), and lynching scum, all in all.

If we're really, really, really lucky, it is a 2-3 spread over game thread/ SH meaning we're nowhere outnumbered nor being close to being outnumbered, yet. But that is very much BCS.

[Ruse]

Sheltatha Lore, on 11 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Shelly I agree that the thread apathy for town is horrible in this game. I assume that is because the majority of town are in SH and not here.

I am not sure about the last part, as we haven't seen a great many CFs and we have all the switching happening.

We know that somewhere on day 1 at the very latest 1 scum was around to receive the Esper.
He has had 4 recruitment attempts if we go by night recruitment, which seems the safest bet. I know that there is a *claimed* guard.
With the current amount of people alive, if all recruitment succeeded and all cult was still alive, we'd be on D-day (majority + 1 = 5 + 1), going by 1 starting scum. Which, incidentally, is why your "lynch me next if I am wrong!" teaser as a leader to lynch Rashan is so damned suspicious. In WCS, if you are scum and Rashan is town, there will be no next day.

Now, how many CFs have we seen that give alignment? A whole lot less, and two of those were about the same person, the Eager Ninja.
If we check how many people have been switched to and fro, then we have a bigger list that could seriously affect distribution of town/scum ratio.
It isn't worse case scenario, but I think scum are likely to at the very most have parity on thread here, and aren't dominant in SH.
That gives both a good chance of the train being predominantly town (thus making it a lynch on the subject most town consider scum), and lynching scum, all in all.

If we're really, really, really lucky, it is a 2-3 spread over game thread/ SH meaning we're nowhere outnumbered nor being close to being outnumbered, yet. But that is very much BCS.

Do you think it's possible that the FM is either independent or town aligned?

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 11 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Shelly I agree that the thread apathy for town is horrible in this game. I assume that is because the majority of town are in SH and not here.

I am not sure about the last part, as we haven't seen a great many CFs and we have all the switching happening.

We know that somewhere on day 1 at the very latest 1 scum was around to receive the Esper.
He has had 4 recruitment attempts if we go by night recruitment, which seems the safest bet. I know that there is a *claimed* guard.
With the current amount of people alive, if all recruitment succeeded and all cult was still alive, we'd be on D-day (majority + 1 = 5 + 1), going by 1 starting scum. Which, incidentally, is why your "lynch me next if I am wrong!" teaser as a leader to lynch Rashan is so damned suspicious. In WCS, if you are scum and Rashan is town, there will be no next day.

Now, how many CFs have we seen that give alignment? A whole lot less, and two of those were about the same person, the Eager Ninja.
If we check how many people have been switched to and fro, then we have a bigger list that could seriously affect distribution of town/scum ratio.
It isn't worse case scenario, but I think scum are likely to at the very most have parity on thread here, and aren't dominant in SH.
That gives both a good chance of the train being predominantly town (thus making it a lynch on the subject most town consider scum), and lynching scum, all in all.

If we're really, really, really lucky, it is a 2-3 spread over game thread/ SH meaning we're nowhere outnumbered nor being close to being outnumbered, yet. But that is very much BCS.

Do you think it's possible that the FM is either independent or town aligned?

He CF'd as Scum, Ruse.

[Ruse]

I know, but it isn't unheard of that the FM leaves the CF of his new residence attached to the body he vacates.

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know, but it isn't unheard of that the FM leaves the CF of his new residence attached to the body he vacates.

But he CF'd with the same character name every time.

[D'riss]

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 11 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

D, on 11 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Shelly I agree that the thread apathy for town is horrible in this game. I assume that is because the majority of town are in SH and not here.

I am not sure about the last part, as we haven't seen a great many CFs and we have all the switching happening.

We know that somewhere on day 1 at the very latest 1 scum was around to receive the Esper.
He has had 4 recruitment attempts if we go by night recruitment, which seems the safest bet. I know that there is a *claimed* guard.
With the current amount of people alive, if all recruitment succeeded and all cult was still alive, we'd be on D-day (majority + 1 = 5 + 1), going by 1 starting scum. Which, incidentally, is why your "lynch me next if I am wrong!" teaser as a leader to lynch Rashan is so damned suspicious. In WCS, if you are scum and Rashan is town, there will be no next day.

Now, how many CFs have we seen that give alignment? A whole lot less, and two of those were about the same person, the Eager Ninja.
If we check how many people have been switched to and fro, then we have a bigger list that could seriously affect distribution of town/scum ratio.
It isn't worse case scenario, but I think scum are likely to at the very most have parity on thread here, and aren't dominant in SH.
That gives both a good chance of the train being predominantly town (thus making it a lynch on the subject most town consider scum), and lynching scum, all in all.

If we're really, really, really lucky, it is a 2-3 spread over game thread/ SH meaning we're nowhere outnumbered nor being close to being outnumbered, yet. But that is very much BCS.

Do you think it's possible that the FM is either independent or town aligned?

I think that there is a possibility that the FM could be town aligned. From the earlier conversation I had with the first Emur he seemed to indicate that several of the guys up in SH thought that it was a strong possibility. I am assuming that they have more information then I do in regards to the FM.

[Ruse]

Rashan, on 11 July 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 11 July 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

I know, but it isn't unheard of that the FM leaves the CF of his new residence attached to the body he vacates.

But he CF'd with the same character name every time.

I'm just working through the idea