[Tellan]

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

Tellan, on 10 July 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Welcome Ruse.

Who were you?

I saw Anomandaris and Fener post in SH, so you aren't them.

So, do we buy Tellan's "I was on my phone and panicked while at L-4" or do we think he's Scummy McScum Scum?

I think Tellan is scum. Some information has come up in the spectre thread, that led us to believe that either Osseric, Tellan or Liosan are the scum Esper. Now Osserics death scene didn't read to me like we got the Esper, so that leaves Tellan and Liosan. Of those two I think Tellan is more likely to be scum, especially with the fast hammer yesterday.

vote Tellan

What information is that? Because I know I'm innocent. And I can prove it.
Hello everyone,
I am Zahska Taraq, a 34 year old Arak woman from the Pan'potsun Odhan. If you really still don't believe the reveal, I'll reveal my ability, but I'd rather not.

Ye gods, if Telas is scum you're playing right into their hands. Don't reveal unless it really looks like you're going to get lynched, please. (One vote is not enough to count as 'you're going to get lynched')

Honestly, its not that big of a deal. Yesterday, I had 4 votes and today another person came on and voted for me. If they all voted me again, I'd be at L-3, and as the most obvious candidate for a lynch, I'd be gone. Also, I wanted to give more than enough time to find another target for the lynch, as I have seen many times that if someone reveals too late, it doesn't help one bit, or a random lynch happens

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ruse, on 10 July 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

I was Serc in SH

Okay, why didn't you drop a single vote yesterday? I just took a quick gander through Path Shaper posts from yesterday and there hasn't been a Serc vote since the alt was ninja'd.

[Emurlahn]

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Wasn't Eloth telling us yesterday that the person who comes out of Spectre Thread would be the next person who was lynched, so Fener? I.E. that they are chosen in the order that they were lynched? So the fact that Ano and Barghast came back debunks that theory.

If Emur isn't lying about being Ano, then that means the Spectre thread just got a whole lot more interesting. People come out of there at random or are chosen by an as yet undisclosed source, we still don't have confirmation if anyone other than the lich would go back to spectre thread if they were lynched/killed a second time, it seems that when someone comes out of spectre thread, it is only for a day, then their spirits are sent back while the body remains.

I think the fact that Emur is now Ano makes me suspicious. Let's say that only one ghost is supposed to come back normally. Perhaps Ruse was returned via another mechanic. Maybe Ruse is actually scum? Barghast's CF was scum, but we don't know if that was the Eager Ninja CF or if that was Barghast's character CF, or if he was recruited, or if his scum CF remains the same after being resurrected from spectre thread.

I'm willing to test that, personally, so I will

vote Ruse

to put a little pressure on our newest newcomer.

I find it weird that you throw all your suspicion at Ruse. We have seen people coming back from SH in a new alt, but apart from the FM it is the first time that we have seen someone swaping alts, so I don't get how you think Ruse was returned with a different mechanic.

[Ruse]

no need - I was going to vote Osseric along with the others in SH, but when it came down to the end of time, my vote wasn't needed. I was right there though.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Wasn't Eloth telling us yesterday that the person who comes out of Spectre Thread would be the next person who was lynched, so Fener? I.E. that they are chosen in the order that they were lynched? So the fact that Ano and Barghast came back debunks that theory.

If Emur isn't lying about being Ano, then that means the Spectre thread just got a whole lot more interesting. People come out of there at random or are chosen by an as yet undisclosed source, we still don't have confirmation if anyone other than the lich would go back to spectre thread if they were lynched/killed a second time, it seems that when someone comes out of spectre thread, it is only for a day, then their spirits are sent back while the body remains.

I think the fact that Emur is now Ano makes me suspicious. Let's say that only one ghost is supposed to come back normally. Perhaps Ruse was returned via another mechanic. Maybe Ruse is actually scum? Barghast's CF was scum, but we don't know if that was the Eager Ninja CF or if that was Barghast's character CF, or if he was recruited, or if his scum CF remains the same after being resurrected from spectre thread.

I'm willing to test that, personally, so I will

vote Ruse

to put a little pressure on our newest newcomer.

I find it weird that you throw all your suspicion at Ruse. We have seen people coming back from SH in a new alt, but apart from the FM it is the first time that we have seen someone swaping alts, so I don't get how you think Ruse was returned with a different mechanic.

I am looking at it more and more. Ruse is claiming to have been Barghast before Barghast was taken by the FM. He then says that he was Serc in the Spectre thread, yet Serc did not vote even once yesterday. Barghast, however, hammered Osseric. And this after we received a CF stating that Barghast was Brujah, was a cultist, and was the Eager Ninja, etc. We had all assumed that the CF meant that Brujah was dead dead, or at least that the FM was. Now I'm not so sure anymore. So until I am given something a little more concrete by Ruse, then this is where I like my vote right now.

You're also on my scumdar at the moment, but I'm less inclined your way. I didn't have any/many pangs from you when you were still Ano, so no reason to keep going. I'll be keeping an eye out though, we shall see what happens.

[Ruse]

Barghast/Brujah was in SH last night - he never denied anything, didn't say a whole lot while I was around. He was still there when I left for the night.


How do you know I didn't vote? If I removed before PS updated the thread, it wouldn't show.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

In a secluded chamber, a few adventurers are gathered. On one side of the room, the Jheck barbarian is tending a fire. He and the two others beside him are watching what looks like a large pile of rags.
From the mishapen bundle, a gnarled, covered hand appears and lays down three cards. Orb, upright, is laid side-by-side Obelisk, inverted. Sideways, bridging the two, The Apocalyptic.

The hand withdraws into the rags, and the three others watching wait impatiently. After a minute, the hand returns with nine more cards, which it flings down haphazardly. The cards bounce and fall in a scatter around the center three, but all land face-up: Priest and Weaver of Life. Herald of Death. Builder and Maiden of Light. Soldier of Dark. Consort, Cripple and Fool (Mekin) in Chains. Hunter and Mercenary. On each card, a single figure is depicted, most of them human-looking. As the trio lean forward to look closer, the rag bundle's hand re-emerges and casts down three small stone cards, which each land upon one of the outer cards.
"What's this? These aren't Cards!" says one of the onlookers. The bundle of rags does not reply, as usual. But the Jheck, who himself rarely speaks, answers.

"Blocks? Slates?" he asks, looking at his companion as he tries to find the right word. "How do you say... Tiles." Realization dawns. He leans over the field and points out each one. "The Frozen Hold. Here, Bearer. This, Walker. And this..." He looks up at his companions while making a series of warding gestures.
"Shaper."

Just a random aside, I think we should probably take a bit more time to analyze the Deck of Dragons reading. At the very least, it might help us identify people a little more, or figure out some roles.

The thing that interests me the most is the three tiles - Bearer, Walker, Shaper. Those must be our Apostl'eyds. I'm thinking Shaper is the recruiting one, but what could the other two mean?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ruse, on 10 July 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Barghast/Brujah was in SH last night - he never denied anything, didn't say a whole lot while I was around. He was still there when I left for the night.


How do you know I didn't vote? If I removed before PS updated the thread, it wouldn't show.

Well that's what I mean though. You didn't vote that we out here could see. You can't prove that you were Serc, and you can't prove that Serc was even in the spectre thread at all, seeing as he didn't vote from it that we could see.

[Tellan]

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

In a secluded chamber, a few adventurers are gathered. On one side of the room, the Jheck barbarian is tending a fire. He and the two others beside him are watching what looks like a large pile of rags.
From the mishapen bundle, a gnarled, covered hand appears and lays down three cards. Orb, upright, is laid side-by-side Obelisk, inverted. Sideways, bridging the two, The Apocalyptic.

The hand withdraws into the rags, and the three others watching wait impatiently. After a minute, the hand returns with nine more cards, which it flings down haphazardly. The cards bounce and fall in a scatter around the center three, but all land face-up: Priest and Weaver of Life. Herald of Death. Builder and Maiden of Light. Soldier of Dark. Consort, Cripple and Fool (Mekin) in Chains. Hunter and Mercenary. On each card, a single figure is depicted, most of them human-looking. As the trio lean forward to look closer, the rag bundle's hand re-emerges and casts down three small stone cards, which each land upon one of the outer cards.
"What's this? These aren't Cards!" says one of the onlookers. The bundle of rags does not reply, as usual. But the Jheck, who himself rarely speaks, answers.

"Blocks? Slates?" he asks, looking at his companion as he tries to find the right word. "How do you say... Tiles." Realization dawns. He leans over the field and points out each one. "The Frozen Hold. Here, Bearer. This, Walker. And this..." He looks up at his companions while making a series of warding gestures.
"Shaper."

Just a random aside, I think we should probably take a bit more time to analyze the Deck of Dragons reading. At the very least, it might help us identify people a little more, or figure out some roles.

The thing that interests me the most is the three tiles - Bearer, Walker, Shaper. Those must be our Apostl'eyds. I'm thinking Shaper is the recruiting one, but what could the other two mean?

I think we should compare the cards to the roles we know and try to find more info through cross-examination. I'll go do that now

[Sheltatha Lore]

Heck, Serc hasn't voted from the Spectre Thread even once since he ninjaed. Seeing as he CF'd as Mekin Zikulka before Barghast, it makes it even more suspect as far as I'm concerned. If you were Serc in the Spectre Thread, who were you before you got taken over by the FM?

[Ruse]

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

Heck, Serc hasn't voted from the Spectre Thread even once since he ninjaed. Seeing as he CF'd as Mekin Zikulka before Barghast, it makes it even more suspect as far as I'm concerned. If you were Serc in the Spectre Thread, who were you before you got taken over by the FM?

Barghast

[Emurlahn]

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ruse, on 10 July 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Barghast/Brujah was in SH last night - he never denied anything, didn't say a whole lot while I was around. He was still there when I left for the night.


How do you know I didn't vote? If I removed before PS updated the thread, it wouldn't show.

Well that's what I mean though. You didn't vote that we out here could see. You can't prove that you were Serc, and you can't prove that Serc was even in the spectre thread at all, seeing as he didn't vote from it that we could see.

Serc was posting in the specter thread when I was around and his story about being Barghast before fits what he told us there.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 10 July 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ruse, on 10 July 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Barghast/Brujah was in SH last night - he never denied anything, didn't say a whole lot while I was around. He was still there when I left for the night.


How do you know I didn't vote? If I removed before PS updated the thread, it wouldn't show.

Well that's what I mean though. You didn't vote that we out here could see. You can't prove that you were Serc, and you can't prove that Serc was even in the spectre thread at all, seeing as he didn't vote from it that we could see.

Serc was posting in the specter thread when I was around and his story about being Barghast before fits what he told us there.

Very well, I'll take this for now.

remove vote

but I'm keeping an eye on both of you. I'm still suspicious of anyone returning from Spectre thread, and of course you would back him up if you're both scum. That being said, the fact that people don't necessarily stay longer than one day when they are resurrected perhaps makes it somewhat improbable for spectre threaders to be recruited.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 23 hours and 40 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan

8 votes to lynch

1 Vote for Liosan ( Fener )
2 Votes for Tellan ( Emurlahn, Anomandaris )

[Ruse]

Fener has voted for Liosan - anybody have a guess why?

[Tellan]

Ruse, on 10 July 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Fener has voted for Liosan - anybody have a guess why?

Because he believes my reveal and knows that Liosan is likely to be scum?

[Telas]

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Welcome Ruse.

Who were you?

I saw Anomandaris and Fener post in SH, so you aren't them.

So, do we buy Tellan's "I was on my phone and panicked while at L-4" or do we think he's Scummy McScum Scum?

I think Tellan is scum. Some information has come up in the spectre thread, that led us to believe that either Osseric, Tellan or Liosan are the scum Esper. Now Osserics death scene didn't read to me like we got the Esper, so that leaves Tellan and Liosan. Of those two I think Tellan is more likely to be scum, especially with the fast hammer yesterday.

vote Tellan

Based on this mysterious info, do we know anything about Rashan as well? He'd be my next pick behind Liosan. (although the dead clearing Tellan doesn't exactly convince)
I'm guessing there has to be a "no-sharing" guideline in place between Specter world and here, because everyone is so damn cagey about "info" that comes up in deadland.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 23 hours and 11 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan

8 votes to lynch

2 Votes for Tellan ( Emurlahn, Anomandaris )

[Emurlahn]

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 July 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Telas, on 10 July 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Welcome Ruse.

Who were you?

I saw Anomandaris and Fener post in SH, so you aren't them.

So, do we buy Tellan's "I was on my phone and panicked while at L-4" or do we think he's Scummy McScum Scum?

I think Tellan is scum. Some information has come up in the spectre thread, that led us to believe that either Osseric, Tellan or Liosan are the scum Esper. Now Osserics death scene didn't read to me like we got the Esper, so that leaves Tellan and Liosan. Of those two I think Tellan is more likely to be scum, especially with the fast hammer yesterday.

vote Tellan

Based on this mysterious info, do we know anything about Rashan as well? He'd be my next pick behind Liosan. (although the dead clearing Tellan doesn't exactly convince)
I'm guessing there has to be a "no-sharing" guideline in place between Specter world and here, because everyone is so damn cagey about "info" that comes up in deadland.

Yes, we know that Rashan is not the cult Esper right now. As for being cagy, I could be more open with my information, but I think cult would profit from that the most.

And why is Tellan suddenly cleared?

[D'riss]

Ok so I don't trust Ruse, I think that Serc was a cult recruit. Right now I am debating whether the new Emur is really Ano or if he is the FM. I think that we are very close to lynching the cult recruiter. It is either Liosan or Tellan and right now I am leaning toward Liosan as the recruiter. Nobody has been able to make a case on him but half of the boards gut yesterday says that he was scum. It is interesting to see that both of the new alts are voting for Tellan. I think that they are trying to get us to lynch one more town so that another member of cult can come down from SH.


Vote Liosan