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#1 User is offline   Grey_McHawk 

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 02:44 PM

Walking through the the local book shop the other day, to pick up something new to read and i notice that the finally released 'A Dance with Dragons' in paper back. well i wasn't keen on buying it because i already bought the hard back version on release. But i did notice that like the third A Song of Ice and Fire book it was split in two parts (Some stupid uk publisher scam to make you buy two 20 dollar paperbacks to read one book), with a sub-title for each part

The first part was titled
'A Dance with Dragons pt 1- Dreams with Dust'

obviously a blatant rip off the title Dust of dreams

what's next
a 'winds of winter' pt 1 -Hounds of the toll

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 02:55 PM

I don't see any connection at all. The Malazan Book of the Fallen may have a following but it is not even remotely as big as Song of Ice and Fire. The Dust of Dreams title was coined like 5 or 6 years ago. It is not some kind of golden catch phrase that has reverberated through the halls of Fantasy litterature. It is just a title. I think Martin is more than capable of coming up with his own flowery titles.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:30 PM

I dont know if Martin names the sub-titles or the publishers on the Harper-Collins ASOIAF novels. But of all the phrases in all the books in the 'ASOIAF' series you don't think they couldn't find a phrase which isn't similar. And even though it might not be as popular, Malazan is still a fairly prominent fantasy series with many of the people who i know that have read 'ASOIAF' having heard of it while googling 'whats the best fantasy novel after Game of Thrones'. You dont think that they will have questions of why a Malazan book and a Dance of Dragons book having the same name. What happens when some one buys some one a gift and ends up buying the wrong book.
You cant honestly tell me there wont be any problems stemming from this.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:36 PM

I haven't read an ASOIAF book since the third one but could it be that the title relates to an event or phrase in the book? Just like Dust of Dreams has a meaning in the Malazan series?
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:42 PM

Not that i recall, but it seems like the sub-titles dont corralate to a specific quote, as a Dance of Dragons pt 2 is titled as 'After the Feast'
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:36 PM

Owl City has a song from 2011 called "Dreams Don't Turn to Dust"; obviously a rebuttal to SE's series. :lol:
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostSalt-Man Z, on 30 May 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

Owl City has a song from 2011 called "Dreams Don't Turn to Dust"; obviously a rebuttal to SE's series. :lol:


Oh, the scandal!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 04:34 AM

GG, boys.

You guys have helped me realise that this is all a non-issue that stems from my insecurities of the popularity of ASOIAF that i wish the malazan series would achieve.

Now

Imma goto my corner while i cry and await my friends to beat me up for even suggest such blasphemy against ASOIAF.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 30 May 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

Walking through the the local book shop the other day, to pick up something new to read and i notice that the finally released 'A Dance with Dragons' in paper back. well i wasn't keen on buying it because i already bought the hard back version on release. But i did notice that like the third A Song of Ice and Fire book it was split in two parts (Some stupid uk publisher scam to make you buy two 20 dollar paperbacks to read one book), with a sub-title for each part

The first part was titled
'A Dance with Dragons pt 1- Dreams with Dust'

obviously a blatant rip off the title Dust of dreams

what's next
a 'winds of winter' pt 1 -Hounds of the toll

Naughty Publishers


Wait, you guys pay $20 for paperbacks?
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:39 AM

Sure do

Most paper back books in the major book chains in Australia cost around 20 dollars.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 02:05 PM

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 30 May 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

Walking through the the local book shop the other day, to pick up something new to read and i notice that the finally released 'A Dance with Dragons' in paper back. well i wasn't keen on buying it because i already bought the hard back version on release. But i did notice that like the third A Song of Ice and Fire book it was split in two parts (Some stupid uk publisher scam to make you buy two 20 dollar paperbacks to read one book), with a sub-title for each part

The first part was titled
'A Dance with Dragons pt 1- Dreams with Dust'

obviously a blatant rip off the title Dust of dreams

what's next
a 'winds of winter' pt 1 -Hounds of the toll

Naughty Publishers


The Winds of Winter pt 1- Frozen Memories :lol:
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:51 PM

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 31 May 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Sure do

Most paper back books in the major book chains in Australia cost around 20 dollars.

Hmm, they cost a little over half that here.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:05 PM

View PostBlackMoranthofDoom, on 31 May 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 30 May 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

Walking through the the local book shop the other day, to pick up something new to read and i notice that the finally released 'A Dance with Dragons' in paper back. well i wasn't keen on buying it because i already bought the hard back version on release. But i did notice that like the third A Song of Ice and Fire book it was split in two parts (Some stupid uk publisher scam to make you buy two 20 dollar paperbacks to read one book), with a sub-title for each part

The first part was titled
'A Dance with Dragons pt 1- Dreams with Dust'

obviously a blatant rip off the title Dust of dreams

what's next
a 'winds of winter' pt 1 -Hounds of the toll

Naughty Publishers


The Winds of Winter pt 1- Frozen Memories :lol:


Is this a thing now? Let's perpetuate it.

'Winds of Winter' pt 1- Celestial Body Horticulture
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

View Postthe more interesting wade-newb, on 31 May 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

View PostBlackMoranthofDoom, on 31 May 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 30 May 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

Walking through the the local book shop the other day, to pick up something new to read and i notice that the finally released 'A Dance with Dragons' in paper back. well i wasn't keen on buying it because i already bought the hard back version on release. But i did notice that like the third A Song of Ice and Fire book it was split in two parts (Some stupid uk publisher scam to make you buy two 20 dollar paperbacks to read one book), with a sub-title for each part

The first part was titled
'A Dance with Dragons pt 1- Dreams with Dust'

obviously a blatant rip off the title Dust of dreams

what's next
a 'winds of winter' pt 1 -Hounds of the toll

Naughty Publishers


The Winds of Winter pt 1- Frozen Memories :lol:


Is this a thing now? Let's perpetuate it.

'Winds of Winter' pt 1- Celestial Body Horticulture


A Clash of Kings pt. 2 - A super guy who is not so super

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostKanese S, on 31 May 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostGrey_McHawk, on 31 May 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Sure do

Most paper back books in the major book chains in Australia cost around 20 dollars.

Hmm, they cost a little over half that here.



In Italy, all Malazan books are split into two separate editions, each costing around 17 euro, if I remember correctly. So that's about £13.50, or $21, for half of MoI, for example.

And for this astonishing price, you don't even get a random sub-title: It's just 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' :lol:
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:02 PM

Yeah man, its ridiculous what publishes try to get away with. Just recently i convinced my mate to pick up the hard cover edition of a Storm of Swords instead because not only was it in one part but it was only 10 bucks more.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 02:13 PM

Yikes! I bought ASoIaF books 1-4 in MMPB for < $30, including tax. God bless Target. I've been getting the Malazan books in MMPB for ~ $7.50 each from Amazon, thanks to their 4-for-3 deals. Bibliophile that I am, I guess I'm lucky to live in the U.S.
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 03:02 PM

I remember the first time I heard an American bitch about having to pay $30 for a hardcover. I laughed. It's even worse when they whine about having to shell out a whole $60 for a new game. :lol:

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 03:25 PM

Winds of Winter, Part 1:

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