[QuickTidal]

For those who haven't seen the film and wish to see the luscious title sequence (one of my fave ever in the series), check it out here in all it's glory.

http://vimeo.com/53442121

[Abyss]

I enjoyed. Doesn't merit overthinking because that would throw me right out of the film, but overall entertaining and massively better than QUANTUM.

[McLovin]

Going to see tonight! w00t!!!!

[Jakovasaurus]

Miss Savage, on 10 November 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

I really enjoyed the movie- probably one of the best Bonds ever. I thought it was a great homage to the old Bonds considering it's the 50th anniversary of the franchise, and in line with this Shanghai and the Middle East worked well as "exotic" places. I liked that it had a sort of a quintessential British feel about it, and of course with Daniel Craig, Judy Dench and Ralph Fiennes some fine British actors too. It's also the one of the few, if not the only Bond where a large part of the plot happens on British ground, if I remember correctly- I loved the whole tube action and seeing so much of London was awesome and the scenery up in Scotland was beautiful, not surprisingly. Bardem is an awesome, creepy villain, of course, being the outstanding actor that he is, and I liked Albert Finney- he's a legend.
It's a shame to see Judy Dench go, because I always thought she made a great M and there was this chemistry between her and Craig, but Fiennes is a decent replacement and the two of them go well too, I have to say.
Besides- Daniel Craig is the best Bond ever and I really really hope he is going to take up the tux one more time. He plays it so well- this cultivated yet raw/brute manliness that makes James Bond.

^^^ This. The Bond franchise was getting a little too Jason Bourne for my taste. This story takes us back to the suave Bond, the "shaken but not stirred Bond", the "Aston Martin driving Bond". Don't get me wrong, I love Daniel Craig as James Bond in all of the movies and agree that he (may) be the best Bond ever. But it was refreshing to see this movie update what was so awesome about the James Bond brand.

[McLovin]

Saw it last night. Pretty darn good, think it's definitely up there with the best of the Bond films. Definitely the most beautifully shot - the neon Shanghai was just gorgeous. Acting all top notch.

Hopefully now that Daniel Craig's Bond is now fully "set up" they don't lapse into the formulaic self-parody of previous Bond offerings.

[Aptorian]

I wouldn't mind if they just re-interpreted all the old Bond classics. Imagine that opening sequence from Moonraker done with modern CGI. Also Modern day Jaws amd Oddjob? That would be... interedasting.

This post has been edited by Aptorius: 21 November 2012 - 04:49 PM

[QuickTidal]

So wait Apt....you would prefer them REMAKING old movies instead of making new Bond stories?

Wow, you'll not mind me if I vehemently disagree. SKYFALL is a step in the right direction os new Bond films with stories that don't already exist in some fashion.

[Abyss]

Arguably the Craig Casino Royale would support Apt's point, but the original wasn't really a Bond film. The Thunderball/Never Say Never Again thing is all the reason i need to argue against remaking old Bond films.

At a base level, Bond films are not rocket science (except for that one with Denise Richards that involved rocket science... and Moonraker, actually...) . Even originality-starved hollywood should be able to come up with viable variations of 'Bond does something cool, badguy does something evil, M sends Bond on mission, Q appears, Bond almost dies, Bond shags Bond-Girl, Bond kills bad-guy and X number henchmen'.

[Aptorian]

QuickTidal, on 21 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

So wait Apt....you would prefer them REMAKING old movies instead of making new Bond stories?

Wow, you'll not mind me if I vehemently disagree. SKYFALL is a step in the right direction os new Bond films with stories that don't already exist in some fashion.

I didn't say I'd PREFER it. I said I wouldn't mind. The original movies are so old that a direct remake wouldn't even make sense. They are horribly anachronistic and their entire make-up is very different from what a modern day Bond crowd would want but they still have some iconic imagery and legendary characters.

What I really want is for the franchise to re-interpret SPECTRE. I want Bond and MI6 pitted against a Super Terrorist/Evil Secret society type of organization with absurd take over the world/crush the economy/steal the worlds surplus of twinkies type of schemes.

[QuickTidal]

Aptorius, on 21 November 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

What I really want is for the franchise to re-interpret SPECTRE. I want Bond and MI6 pitted against a Super Terrorist/Evil Secret society type of organization with absurd take over the world/crush the economy/steal the worlds surplus of twinkies type of schemes.

That's where they are headed, just with new stories.

[Abyss]

Aptorius, on 21 November 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

... The original movies are so old that a direct remake wouldn't even make sense. They are horribly anachronistic and their entire make-up is very different from what a modern day Bond crowd would want but they still have some iconic imagery and legendary characters. ...

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that any modern re-interpretation of Oddjob is just going to be farcical if not outright suck.

Case in point...



...because honestly, who throws a shoe????

And don't even get me started on 'Jaws'.

[Aptorian]

Abyss, on 21 November 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

...because honestly, who throws a shoe????

And don't even get me started on 'Jaws'.

The opening sequence could be a SPECTRE sanctioned assassination attempt on George Dubya Bush.

Also I nominate Anthony Hopkins as Jaws.

[Loki]

Really wasn't blown away by it. In fact, I was rather disappointed by it.

Amongst other things, it felt like one seriously drawn out prologue just to introduce a new character.

I did like seeing

Spoiler

the DB-5

again. That was a really nice touch. And the bad guy's performance was pure Bond villian - he did an awesome job.

Also, it was rather light on action and high in drama - not a bad thing per se but given the unimpressive story I would have preferred more action scenes. I was actively bored in parts.

[QuickTidal]

Loki, on 30 November 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Really wasn't blown away by it. In fact, I was rather disappointed by it.

Amongst other things, it felt like one seriously drawn out prologue just to introduce a new character.

I did like seeing

Spoiler

the DB-5

again. That was a really nice touch. And the bad guy's performance was pure Bond villian - he did an awesome job.

Also, it was rather light on action and high in drama - not a bad thing per se but given the unimpressive story I would have preferred more action scenes. I was actively bored in parts.

Indeed, it was, in a sense...CASINO ROYALE shows us an untested Bond, unleashed for the first time like a mad dog....QUANTUM OF SOLACE takes that mad dog and shows him that you really can't BE the way he attempted to be (a cold-hearted killer...who attempts to love and have a heart...) and that puts him through the wringer, up to and including torture, and ending in the MOST FLAMMABLE HOTEL ever...LOL....so SKYFALL is really his re-indoctrination into the role he was meant for, but more wary, more poised...less mad dog and more calculated, I no longer have those emotions tripping me up, killer...this includes shedding the very last bastion of his emotion he has left in him (his son-like love and devotion for M). So you definitely have a reason to see it that way, as I really think that a lot of SKYFALL is table dressing for the role moving forward.

That sucks that you were disappointed by it though Loki, I hate going to movies and not getting out of them what I expected, it really does let you down.



Cheer up though, HOBBIT in a few weeks.

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 30 November 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

Cheer up though, HOBBIT in a few weeks.

Oh come on, getting his hopes up for that's just going to grind his spirit even more.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 30 November 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 30 November 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

Cheer up though, HOBBIT in a few weeks.

Oh come on, getting her hopes up for that's just going to grind her spirit even more.

Fixed.

Also, too late, hopes are already up for it, can't help it PG.

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 30 November 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

Fixed.

My apologies.

I should probably not talk about the Hobbit again until after I've seen it. I keep going off on rants. And despite my unending nitpickyness, I don't normally go into films expecting them to let me down.

[Abyss]

Aptorius, on 21 November 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

...The opening sequence could be a SPECTRE sanctioned assassination attempt on George Dubya Bush.
...

But why would a British agent want to stop such a thing???

[Coco with marshmallows]

Abyss, on 30 November 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Aptorius, on 21 November 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

...The opening sequence could be a SPECTRE sanctioned assassination attempt on George Dubya Bush.
...

But why would any sane person want to stop such a thing???

Fixed.

[Illuyankas]

Oh man, the Secret Service is just going to love that.