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Mafia 87.5: The Numbers Game When Transcendentals Attack!

#641 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:20 AM

And we'd know if Korbas is scum or not.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:21 AM

You know it is D-day, right?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:24 AM

I am well aware. If we lose a two townies, including Fener, and a killer we can win. We'd be at four players, one scum, three human, three votes required to get a lynch.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:28 AM

Unless there is a miracle, like Fener is scum or Fener actually beats the modtimer, we are 4 town versus 2 scum. We kill a townie, scum kill another, it's 2 to 2. All scum have to do is not vote at all and they win. We fuck up, it's over, unless Fener turns out to be a boon not a bane.

But I am absolutely convinced Korbas is scum, so with the above caveat, I would be happy to experiment.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:32 AM

It is Day 4. There are 33 hours and 56 minutes remaining.

The are 7 players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Fener, Galain, Korbas, Rashan and Thyrllan.

1 vote Korbas (Anomandaris)

The following players haven't voted: Ampelas, Fener, Galain, Korbas, Rashan and Thyrllan.



Regarding Fener - his modkill timer will expire while I am asleep. I will let you know the outcome in the morning.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 May 2012 - 12:33 AM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#646 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:32 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

Unless there is a miracle, like Fener is scum or Fener actually beats the modtimer, we are 4 town versus 2 scum. We kill a townie, scum kill another, it's 2 to 2. All scum have to do is not vote at all and they win. We fuck up, it's over, unless Fener turns out to be a boon not a bane.

But I am absolutely convinced Korbas is scum, so with the above caveat, I would be happy to experiment.



If you want to gamble, i can up the votes to L-2, and see who bites. And who doesn't.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:34 AM

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:35 AM

View PostGalain, on 29 May 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

Unless there is a miracle, like Fener is scum or Fener actually beats the modtimer, we are 4 town versus 2 scum. We kill a townie, scum kill another, it's 2 to 2. All scum have to do is not vote at all and they win. We fuck up, it's over, unless Fener turns out to be a boon not a bane.

But I am absolutely convinced Korbas is scum, so with the above caveat, I would be happy to experiment.



If you want to gamble, i can up the votes to L-2, and see who bites. And who doesn't.


As much as I want Korbas dead, I would rather you read up and tell me if I am missing anything. We do have 2 scum, not just 1, to find and eliminate.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:35 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.


See my ninja edit above :).

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#650 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:36 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 29 May 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

Unless there is a miracle, like Fener is scum or Fener actually beats the modtimer, we are 4 town versus 2 scum. We kill a townie, scum kill another, it's 2 to 2. All scum have to do is not vote at all and they win. We fuck up, it's over, unless Fener turns out to be a boon not a bane.

But I am absolutely convinced Korbas is scum, so with the above caveat, I would be happy to experiment.



If you want to gamble, i can up the votes to L-2, and see who bites. And who doesn't.


As much as I want Korbas dead, I would rather you read up and tell me if I am missing anything. We do have 2 scum, not just 1, to find and eliminate.


Alright, alright, i'll do some reading first.

28.6% chance of lynching scum is we strike at random!

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:40 AM

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.


Putting your edit next to my post. I'm sorry to be dense PS, but I don't see any edit, ninja or otherwise. Your subtle humor eludes me.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:43 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 29 May 2012 - 12:40 AM, said:

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.

PS, I know you have an eye on it, but it would be really helpful to know how long Fener has. A modkill would change this game dramatically, so I want to know we have till that point in time.


Putting your edit next to my post. I'm sorry to be dense PS, but I don't see any edit, ninja or otherwise. Your subtle humor eludes me.



He added the part whereh e says it'll time out when he's asleep, and i think you want a timer. Correct?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:44 AM

Oh, thanks Galain, that was driving me crazy.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:46 AM

Aieeh, i don't know about Korbas. His lynch seems like a solid choice (I've said this so many times i'm starting to doubt myself), yet i wish he would be here to defend himself, yet he's in New York City.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:46 AM

Whoops, doubleposted. I wonder if Anomandaris is cum and i'm just playing right into his trap right now...

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:47 AM

I have a slightly crazy idea floating around in the back of my mind. Ano has been the epitome of helpful townie the whole game. The way he has doggedly chased after scum, pleaded with town to change it's ways, and put forward long essays on the nature of scum plays screams 'helpful townie'. His ideas on the way scum plays can be easily related back to him, but the fact that he acknowledges and AGREES with this has made me, and probably others, label him as innocent.

But what if this was simply extremely clever play by an extremely clever scum?

Everything Ano has done over the past few days has been acknowledging that he may get lynched for his actions. His determination to get Korbas lynched. His opposition to the Telas lynch. His argument with D'riss. Above all, his assertion that the scum players are those who act most town-like. He keeps acknowledging that his actions could get him lynched, and yet nothing happens, because we agree that he is putting himself out there and that isn't something that scum do. Time and again he has failed to garner more than a few cursory votes, while we allow him to direct the thread and lead the voting.

Now, he has suggested that scum players will be floating around waiting to hammer as soon as a player gets two votes on him. This subtly distances himself from 'scummy ideas', because he has already put a vote down.

He has also now expressed disbelief at every single night kill. It is this that initially caught my eye. It is another method of distancing, to question why scum have picked who they did. Looking back at the night kills; first was Shelly. Ano suggests looking at the people who advocated ignoring Shelly on day one, reasoning that they were trying to distance themselves from the night kill, without acknowledging that he, himself, also advocated ignoring Shelly as simply role-playing. Night two was Karosis, who, it was suggested, was looking suspiciously at Ano. Third was D'riss, who was having a rather large dust up with Ano before the day ended, and asking some particularly pointed questions, particularly why Ano was so worried about being lynched. And yet we have Ano running around, stating that scum don't want to be associated with their kill targets. Three night kills associated with Ano is starting to look like more than coincidence.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:49 AM

I'll be in and out today. Back in a few hours.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:50 AM

Also, i like how in every game i play i manage to survive even though i do some scummy ass shit early on, i mean, people have given a cursory glance at my posts, or the lack thereof, the last day, while they constantly questioned me before.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:51 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 29 May 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

I have a slightly crazy idea floating around in the back of my mind. Ano has been the epitome of helpful townie the whole game. The way he has doggedly chased after scum, pleaded with town to change it's ways, and put forward long essays on the nature of scum plays screams 'helpful townie'. His ideas on the way scum plays can be easily related back to him, but the fact that he acknowledges and AGREES with this has made me, and probably others, label him as innocent.

But what if this was simply extremely clever play by an extremely clever scum?

Everything Ano has done over the past few days has been acknowledging that he may get lynched for his actions. His determination to get Korbas lynched. His opposition to the Telas lynch. His argument with D'riss. Above all, his assertion that the scum players are those who act most town-like. He keeps acknowledging that his actions could get him lynched, and yet nothing happens, because we agree that he is putting himself out there and that isn't something that scum do. Time and again he has failed to garner more than a few cursory votes, while we allow him to direct the thread and lead the voting.

Now, he has suggested that scum players will be floating around waiting to hammer as soon as a player gets two votes on him. This subtly distances himself from 'scummy ideas', because he has already put a vote down.

He has also now expressed disbelief at every single night kill. It is this that initially caught my eye. It is another method of distancing, to question why scum have picked who they did. Looking back at the night kills; first was Shelly. Ano suggests looking at the people who advocated ignoring Shelly on day one, reasoning that they were trying to distance themselves from the night kill, without acknowledging that he, himself, also advocated ignoring Shelly as simply role-playing. Night two was Karosis, who, it was suggested, was looking suspiciously at Ano. Third was D'riss, who was having a rather large dust up with Ano before the day ended, and asking some particularly pointed questions, particularly why Ano was so worried about being lynched. And yet we have Ano running around, stating that scum don't want to be associated with their kill targets. Three night kills associated with Ano is starting to look like more than coincidence.


I was playing with the same thought, Amp. We could get him to L-2, see who hops onto the train after that?

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:58 AM

Perfect Amp. I would say good job writing that, but as you said, I've been saying everything you just said all game long. And yet, there are more people than just me who have played a clean townie game, and even more precisely, there are several of us still alive who discounted Shelly at the very start (Amp you happen to be one of those).

Galain, I am getting a little suspicious of you atm. You do seem to want to do an L-2 experiment really bad, and don't care if it is me or Korbas. Why is that? We have plenty of time to look over the game again, and you apparently have the time right now. Care to provide some new thoughts of your own?

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