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Mafia 87.5: The Numbers Game When Transcendentals Attack!

#381 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:34 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 24 May 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

not really much happening at all today.

Hating to sound non commital and middle of the road, I'm not over excited about the Rashan case, it does come across a tad omgus, my biggest gyp with him was the hammer vote, even though I was more than happy to lynch Tulas at the time, the hammer with like 10 hours left to play wasn't the finest of actions.


No-one else seems overly interested in my suspicions of Galain, I'd guess partly because of my failure in articulating them well.
I'm going to wait here and see Rashans response before deciding on where to stick or switch on my vote


You're right... I shouldn't have hammered. I had no idea if I was the hammer or whether there would need to be one more after me. I have a sinking feeling that mistake will hurt the town as it plays right into the case against me. Not much I can do there in hindsight.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 04:54 PM

I'm really disappointed with the lack of posting from folks. This game has been very quiet. Right now I can see this playing out that I'll get lynched because no one is playing the game. Which is kind of sad since I'm town y'all!!

So since I'm bored and amusing myself I decided I would look around at the rest of you further. I've been wondering about Karosis. Can't say that I have a read on him one way or the other TBH but doing some legwork for you.

He joined the game late....

View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

ok, i've arrived. reading up, yo. like a..boss...or something.


Then proceeded to get caught into the whirlwind that was Kheltatha. Damn... I miss you Khell.. this game was more fun when you were still alive... *snif*

View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

wow, what the mother fucking fuck of this thread is going on. this is incredibly bizarre. shelly is the weirdest fucking thing of all time and the fact that TS agrees with her after she time and time again makes deliberate mistakes (like referring to a "healer" over and over when it's been explicitly stated there isn't one...) is suspicious as all hell. i want to hear serious expla-fucking-nations from TS because this is ridiculous.

i have a few other thoughts on why people are playing the way they are but i think we should wait and see what happens for a bit before we start speculation like that.

i haven't seen a vote count, damn you P-S, but

vote shelly

if nothing else, the distraction will be gone and the severity of the immense misdirection she's putting on thread is as much a threat as anything, right now.



View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 22 May 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

well, i'm back and caught up.

Shelly is taking the piss. if it's really bothering you, ignore it. I personally am rather amused by it, it is a pretty good parody. I will maintain that it is never worth lynching people simply because they are annoying. hopefully the role play will end after the first day anyway.

I'd like to hear more from Tulas. a vote like that so early in the game seems odd. lazy townie moves like that tend to be later in the day, when people realise that they won't be online before time out and rush to put a vote down.


i don't think it's wise to ignore shelly - she's not just annoying, she's actually deliberately putting misinformation all over the thread which i cannot for the fucking life of me see how that would help town at all.




View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 22 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

I am only on for a minute. But I agree with Shelly we should be looking for codes. Actually Shelly seems to making perfect sense. If only I wasn't pressed for time. Thy is starting to look a little suspect.


Vote Thyrllan



Edited for spelling


like this post. mother of fucking god, what could he possibly be thinking? pressed for time? is this a joke? either he explains or his neck is next on the chopping block - especially if shelly comes back scum.



View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 22 May 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

well, i'm back and caught up.

Shelly is taking the piss. if it's really bothering you, ignore it. I personally am rather amused by it, it is a pretty good parody. I will maintain that it is never worth lynching people simply because they are annoying. hopefully the role play will end after the first day anyway.

I'd like to hear more from Tulas. a vote like that so early in the game seems odd. lazy townie moves like that tend to be later in the day, when people realise that they won't be online before time out and rush to put a vote down.


i don't think it's wise to ignore shelly - she's not just annoying, she's actually deliberately putting misinformation all over the thread which i cannot for the fucking life of me see how that would help town at all.



No you are completely right Telarosis, you shouldn't ignore me because I've been saying lots of things which make sense. I know I have an annoying posting style hahahahahahaha but I just want to get all my thoughts out there before I am killed because the killers are sure to target me tonight, so it's better that I get all my suspicions out there now so you know who to go for after I am gone. Trust me, just stick with me and you'll be fine.


i can't believe i'm bothering to respond to this but why in god's name would the killers target you? you are the perfect lynch, it would be (pay attention TS) BAD FUCKING PLAY to kill off the most lynchable player left alive, assuming TS gets lynched. also you haven't put forth anything of worth because it's all mixed in with total bullshit, like, "this person is town, and that person is the healer!" that gives us nothing, and so you have contributed nothing.


Was Khell REALLY the most lynchable player at the end of the day on Day 1? He was actually getting applauded by dropping the act at the end there.

View PostKarosis, on 23 May 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

ok....it is odd to me that they killed shelly , simply because she was so controversial and would have definitely been a potential lynch target and discussed throughout the day. without going into too much wifom, this essentially resets us back to day 1 with both of our main scum suspects dead and confirmed town. dilemma.

it's possible that she was onto something at the end, and if someone wants to really look into that, great, but we can't assume it. i flat out said yesterday the killers would be crazy to kill shelly...and then they did. so it could just be deliberate attempt at confusion. also stalls our discussion quite a bit.

one thing that I do not like is that SL was really targeting Anomandaris at the end of the day and now ano is making lists (on noes, t3h scumz!) and actively investigating people who were not interested in shelly's lynch... lays a vote down pretty early too. almost seems too eager to help town find out why shelly was killed and then base his lynch on that.... smells of scum who knows too much and is taking the reins in the aftermath of night 1 confusion.

not sure what to make of it yet though. need some time to reread more.


And this is the last we hear from Karosis. Come join us back for lynch time ya hear! I'm getting a lazy townie vibe, but I guess he could be a low lying killer that's trying not to make waves.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 05:24 PM

View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:



If you don't believe me, then look at this: http://www.youtube.c...&feature=relmfu

Clearly I drink.



I feel like drinking isn't a good excuse. A youtube video proving it seems over the top, and quite unreliable. Bit of an extreme defense in my eyes. Why? Not sure

Remove vote

Vote Rashan





View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 24 May 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 24 May 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

TS was lynched with ten hours left. It seemed odd to say that we couldn't lynch someone who was two short when there were over ten hours left in the day.


Thought it was pretty clear that I wouldn't be able to play for the rest of the night. I didn't want to take the chance of a no lynch day, and it seemed pretty obvious that Tulas Shorn was the more popular possible lynch of the two. At any rate, if I were a killer I certainly wouldn't have NK Sheltatha on night 1, she was getting enough negative attention as it was, there was a good chance that she would have gotten lynched on day 2. Guess we shall see.

At any rate, I probably won't be on for the rest of the night. Not sure if I'll be able to get on before end of MAFIA day, though I should be able to. But just in case, I am going to

vote Rashan

For reasons stated above, by myself and by D'Riss. Hopefully there'll be lots of interesting stuff to read tomorrow!


You're reasoning being? I voted Sheltatha whom you and D'riss BOTH agreed that many of us wanted to see go down and then I switched vote to hammer at the end? SO? It was a done deal. If I didn't vote someone else would have. I even admitted when I voted that I didn't know how many votes were out there etc. as I was ready for bed.

You've been dancing around the idea of accusing me for a while, but now that Ampelas has a second vote on him you decide to throw your vote down. I'm thinking you're starting to worry that your partner is in danger.


Trying to throw two others under the bus to save yourself?

Dunno, going to bed. I'll be back in the morn to see what's gone down.



View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

All of your reasoning makes sense to me amp. Upon a re-reread, he doesn't ever give a straight answer.

As I stated, I just voted you because I was unsure and wanted to dig up some new info. This is the kind of info I was talking about. Rashan seems to be casting the blame to as many people as possible while really not answering anyone's legit questions. Getting defensive, saying he "always seems guilty" and using drink as an excuse...not a strong case, really.

Remove Vote


Vote Rashan



Ok guys, get on the ball here. No one (not even Korbas) has truly responded to any of my accusations. And now no one notices that Korbas votes Rashan, removes his vote, and votes Rashan? And furthermore, these are votes without his own thoughts but rather agreeing with someone else. Does this scream sycophant to anyone else? Scream scum? Jesus!

And Amp, same problem. I've hammered back with some commentary, accused him of being the other scum, etc, and he blows it off? Really? And the only response I got back was rife with issues (such as saying that the killers voted for Shelly because they really wanted her dead and that's why they also put a NK simultaneously on her).

Really?

I mean, I know I'm not a Shelly in post count, but what's the point of making regular commentary if no one listens? Should I just go sheeple?

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 06:04 PM

3 more hours left of day and thread is dead. This is lame.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 24 May 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:



If you don't believe me, then look at this: http://www.youtube.c...&feature=relmfu

Clearly I drink.



I feel like drinking isn't a good excuse. A youtube video proving it seems over the top, and quite unreliable. Bit of an extreme defense in my eyes. Why? Not sure

Remove vote

Vote Rashan





View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 24 May 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 24 May 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

TS was lynched with ten hours left. It seemed odd to say that we couldn't lynch someone who was two short when there were over ten hours left in the day.


Thought it was pretty clear that I wouldn't be able to play for the rest of the night. I didn't want to take the chance of a no lynch day, and it seemed pretty obvious that Tulas Shorn was the more popular possible lynch of the two. At any rate, if I were a killer I certainly wouldn't have NK Sheltatha on night 1, she was getting enough negative attention as it was, there was a good chance that she would have gotten lynched on day 2. Guess we shall see.

At any rate, I probably won't be on for the rest of the night. Not sure if I'll be able to get on before end of MAFIA day, though I should be able to. But just in case, I am going to

vote Rashan

For reasons stated above, by myself and by D'Riss. Hopefully there'll be lots of interesting stuff to read tomorrow!


You're reasoning being? I voted Sheltatha whom you and D'riss BOTH agreed that many of us wanted to see go down and then I switched vote to hammer at the end? SO? It was a done deal. If I didn't vote someone else would have. I even admitted when I voted that I didn't know how many votes were out there etc. as I was ready for bed.

You've been dancing around the idea of accusing me for a while, but now that Ampelas has a second vote on him you decide to throw your vote down. I'm thinking you're starting to worry that your partner is in danger.


Trying to throw two others under the bus to save yourself?

Dunno, going to bed. I'll be back in the morn to see what's gone down.



View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

All of your reasoning makes sense to me amp. Upon a re-reread, he doesn't ever give a straight answer.

As I stated, I just voted you because I was unsure and wanted to dig up some new info. This is the kind of info I was talking about. Rashan seems to be casting the blame to as many people as possible while really not answering anyone's legit questions. Getting defensive, saying he "always seems guilty" and using drink as an excuse...not a strong case, really.

Remove Vote


Vote Rashan



Ok guys, get on the ball here. No one (not even Korbas) has truly responded to any of my accusations. And now no one notices that Korbas votes Rashan, removes his vote, and votes Rashan? And furthermore, these are votes without his own thoughts but rather agreeing with someone else. Does this scream sycophant to anyone else? Scream scum? Jesus!

And Amp, same problem. I've hammered back with some commentary, accused him of being the other scum, etc, and he blows it off? Really? And the only response I got back was rife with issues (such as saying that the killers voted for Shelly because they really wanted her dead and that's why they also put a NK simultaneously on her).

Really?

I mean, I know I'm not a Shelly in post count, but what's the point of making regular commentary if no one listens? Should I just go sheeple?


It feels like you and I are the only ones left really playing. Galain isn't even around to post his high stream of nothing.

You may also notice that I got accused of 'not answering' when I clearly answered. They just didn't like my response.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:19 PM

There be other people reading the thread! Post! I beg you!

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:36 PM

I have been posting on a fairly regular basis, but besides agreeing with Ampelas, I don't really have much to add. I think Rashan is scum, but I also think that Anomander may be right about Korbas. For now, I'm leaning towards Rashan. I have already stated why, and I don't know that there would be much to add that wouldn't just make it seem more and more that I am partnered with Ampelas, who I think is a townie, but others don't agree with me about that.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

Well considering the fact that I AM town it makes YOU seem quite a bit more scummy to ME.

My top choices for a lynch are Amp and Korbas, but I prefer Amp. I'm finding the lack of participation rather annoying. It makes me think that whatever happens will be decided in a rush, which is bad playing IMO.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM

Zip zap boopity bap, i'm back for now. Got some real life shit going on so i'll be a low-poster for today and tomorrow, the weekend should be fine though, and i apologize in advance.
I'll throw my thoughts on-thread when i have more time, i'm not yet convinced of this Rashan lynch, but it appears to be the only way with something like two or three hours remaining on the clock. Ampelas makes some valid arguments, and i'm willing to throw my vote on the Rashan train should it be required, but it just feels...iffy to me, i don't know.

The Amptelas could be true as well, yet... I don't know, man.

I'm going to do a slow reread, checking over stuff, etcetera.

Once again, i apologize for my lack of participation today and tomorrow.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:37 PM

View PostGalain, on 24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Zip zap boopity bap, i'm back for now. Got some real life shit going on so i'll be a low-poster for today and tomorrow, the weekend should be fine though, and i apologize in advance.
I'll throw my thoughts on-thread when i have more time, i'm not yet convinced of this Rashan lynch, but it appears to be the only way with something like two or three hours remaining on the clock. Ampelas makes some valid arguments, and i'm willing to throw my vote on the Rashan train should it be required, but it just feels...iffy to me, i don't know.

The Amptelas could be true as well, yet... I don't know, man.

I'm going to do a slow reread, checking over stuff, etcetera.

Once again, i apologize for my lack of participation today and tomorrow.


That seems to be the theme for today - there's no sure lynch, no one really has a STRONG case against anyone, so there's not much we can do!

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostTelas, on 24 May 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Zip zap boopity bap, i'm back for now. Got some real life shit going on so i'll be a low-poster for today and tomorrow, the weekend should be fine though, and i apologize in advance.
I'll throw my thoughts on-thread when i have more time, i'm not yet convinced of this Rashan lynch, but it appears to be the only way with something like two or three hours remaining on the clock. Ampelas makes some valid arguments, and i'm willing to throw my vote on the Rashan train should it be required, but it just feels...iffy to me, i don't know.

The Amptelas could be true as well, yet... I don't know, man.

I'm going to do a slow reread, checking over stuff, etcetera.

Once again, i apologize for my lack of participation today and tomorrow.


That seems to be the theme for today - there's no sure lynch, no one really has a STRONG case against anyone, so there's not much we can do!


That really sounds like a copout in case you get the votes to lynch me for when I come up town. You were so sure a couple of posts ago that I was scum Telas, but now you admit that there is not a sure lynch and there isn't a strong case?

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

Ironically enough, after having ample time to sit and talk all day, I now must go. I'm going to be on my phone for this last hour but that's all I've got.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

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This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 May 2012 - 09:33 PM
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:27 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 24 May 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:



If you don't believe me, then look at this: http://www.youtube.c...&feature=relmfu

Clearly I drink.



I feel like drinking isn't a good excuse. A youtube video proving it seems over the top, and quite unreliable. Bit of an extreme defense in my eyes. Why? Not sure

Remove vote

Vote Rashan





View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 24 May 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 24 May 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

TS was lynched with ten hours left. It seemed odd to say that we couldn't lynch someone who was two short when there were over ten hours left in the day.


Thought it was pretty clear that I wouldn't be able to play for the rest of the night. I didn't want to take the chance of a no lynch day, and it seemed pretty obvious that Tulas Shorn was the more popular possible lynch of the two. At any rate, if I were a killer I certainly wouldn't have NK Sheltatha on night 1, she was getting enough negative attention as it was, there was a good chance that she would have gotten lynched on day 2. Guess we shall see.

At any rate, I probably won't be on for the rest of the night. Not sure if I'll be able to get on before end of MAFIA day, though I should be able to. But just in case, I am going to

vote Rashan

For reasons stated above, by myself and by D'Riss. Hopefully there'll be lots of interesting stuff to read tomorrow!


You're reasoning being? I voted Sheltatha whom you and D'riss BOTH agreed that many of us wanted to see go down and then I switched vote to hammer at the end? SO? It was a done deal. If I didn't vote someone else would have. I even admitted when I voted that I didn't know how many votes were out there etc. as I was ready for bed.

You've been dancing around the idea of accusing me for a while, but now that Ampelas has a second vote on him you decide to throw your vote down. I'm thinking you're starting to worry that your partner is in danger.


Trying to throw two others under the bus to save yourself?

Dunno, going to bed. I'll be back in the morn to see what's gone down.



View PostKorbas, on 24 May 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

All of your reasoning makes sense to me amp. Upon a re-reread, he doesn't ever give a straight answer.

As I stated, I just voted you because I was unsure and wanted to dig up some new info. This is the kind of info I was talking about. Rashan seems to be casting the blame to as many people as possible while really not answering anyone's legit questions. Getting defensive, saying he "always seems guilty" and using drink as an excuse...not a strong case, really.

Remove Vote


Vote Rashan



Ok guys, get on the ball here. No one (not even Korbas) has truly responded to any of my accusations. And now no one notices that Korbas votes Rashan, removes his vote, and votes Rashan? And furthermore, these are votes without his own thoughts but rather agreeing with someone else. Does this scream sycophant to anyone else? Scream scum? Jesus!

And Amp, same problem. I've hammered back with some commentary, accused him of being the other scum, etc, and he blows it off? Really? And the only response I got back was rife with issues (such as saying that the killers voted for Shelly because they really wanted her dead and that's why they also put a NK simultaneously on her).

Really?

I mean, I know I'm not a Shelly in post count, but what's the point of making regular commentary if no one listens? Should I just go sheeple?


Wrong. I removed a vote for Ampelas that I admitted was not backed by much of anything. Then voted Rashan, not remove rashan vote rashan. And I didn't really get your logic for the vote for me so I didn't respond to the accusation. Being overly defensive is what got TS lynched

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostBlend, on 24 May 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 24 May 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 24 May 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Zip zap boopity bap, i'm back for now. Got some real life shit going on so i'll be a low-poster for today and tomorrow, the weekend should be fine though, and i apologize in advance.
I'll throw my thoughts on-thread when i have more time, i'm not yet convinced of this Rashan lynch, but it appears to be the only way with something like two or three hours remaining on the clock. Ampelas makes some valid arguments, and i'm willing to throw my vote on the Rashan train should it be required, but it just feels...iffy to me, i don't know.

The Amptelas could be true as well, yet... I don't know, man.

I'm going to do a slow reread, checking over stuff, etcetera.

Once again, i apologize for my lack of participation today and tomorrow.




That seems to be the theme for today - there's no sure lynch, no one really has a STRONG case against anyone, so there's not much we can do!


That really sounds like a copout in case you get the votes to lynch me for when I come up town. You were so sure a couple of posts ago that I was scum Telas, but now you admit that there is not a sure lynch and there isn't a strong case?



Don't believe I ever said I was 'sure' you were scum. I think you're scum, but it's far from being a certainty. I guess we'll either find out or not. It looks like day's going to end with no lynch, which is too bad.


Who the hell is blend?


Edit: Wrote mid-quote again

This post has been edited by Korbas: 24 May 2012 - 09:28 PM


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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

It is Day 2. There are 27 minutes remaining.

There are 10 players left: Ampelas, Anomandaris, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Rashan, Telas, Thyrllan

6 votes required for a lynch, 5 to go to night.

1 vote Korbas (Anomandaris)
3 votes Rashan (Telas, Korbas, Ampelas)
1 vote Ampelas (Rashan)
1 vote Galain (Thyrllan)

Players who have not voted: D'riss, Fener, Galain, Karosis
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

Looks like no lynch is a great possibility today

spelled possibility wrong = edit

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

I would rather no lynch as opposed to a speed lynch even if it saved my skin. Your play hasn't convinced me one way or another to make me vote for you. If we hit town again, with the nk the killers will make, we will be down to 8, 2 of which will be scum. We stand a better chance with 9.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:51 PM

Agreed, an unfounded train-lynch on a possible townie doesn't help town one bit.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

Holy no time batman!

Well, I think SOMEONE in that Korbas/Rashan/Amp/Telas speculation is scum, but can we choo choo a train in, like, 10 minutes? I've sorta lost my conviction to vote Rashan, so

Vote Korbas



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