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#2861 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:01 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

I mean, he DID give me Eloth. The chances exist it was a clever scheme of him to work his largest opponents out of the game by latching onto me and feeding me some fake information mixed with real information, but i doubt it.


Just THINK though, Telas. For Survivor to win, he has to be alive when one of the factions is last one standing. So you're saying he had enough faith in just me and you to beat everyone else?

He was using you guys one at a time. I'm not defending Tulas, I just want to be sure. Explain the two lies he told Anthras and he called Ruse the killer of Walker group. Ruse could shed light on if that was a third lie or not.,

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:01 PM

And as we all know, he was gone for most of the last day, after which he returned to follow my vote as we had discussed, and to utter his famous last words; "I feel so American now"

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

View PostSerc, on 11 May 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

I mean, he DID give me Eloth. The chances exist it was a clever scheme of him to work his largest opponents out of the game by latching onto me and feeding me some fake information mixed with real information, but i doubt it.


Just THINK though, Telas. For Survivor to win, he has to be alive when one of the factions is last one standing. So you're saying he had enough faith in just me and you to beat everyone else?

He was using you guys one at a time. I'm not defending Tulas, I just want to be sure. Explain the two lies he told Anthras and he called Ruse the killer of Walker group. Ruse could shed light on if that was a third lie or not.,



He told me the same, he wasn't entirely sure IF Ruse was the killer, but he told me he suspected he was. I'll look at the lies now...

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Plus we had little time to talk, different timezones i assume so it was a little bit of banter mixed with serious stuff. He didn't tell me which abilities his role had, or if there were any other zombies, he just gave me a few targets at a time. Probably because he'd stay valuable to me that way without me ratting him out.



SO what all did he tell you about the remaining people? Anything at all? We know all the factions. He didnt knnow ANY of the Walker Roles?

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:05 PM

"Nada. I wish I had some more info. I think he's either the Walker Kid, the Walker killer, or the Walker leader. I think either him or ruse are the last walker killer."

This was before it was just three Walkers, in response to the question "Do you know anything else about Tulas"

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:06 PM

He hadn't told me anything else about the Walkers as he was giving me bite-sized bits of information, and that was the last important bit of info he gave me. And it wasn't even important.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:07 PM

Anything about Karosis? I mean you and I cant convince anyone that we're not zombies, but I know Im not, you know you're not. If we're wrong about Tulas, then what? Is he last one?

Then its all hell break loose faction war?

Did he know anything about Karosis?


Im not doubting Karo,i was the one that first mentioned teaming up with him, but hes the only truly unknown. Unknown in the sense that we dont have anyone to do a find on him.

I didnt doubt him at all til he said me and u would be lynchable.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:09 PM

I agree, we win together, with Serc (Maria Rivera).
Haha, didn't expect that, didja? But yeah, Serc is the Kid from your team.
And Eloth is a duo killer, and one of the remaining zombies.

That's his fourth post to me where he reveals both Eloth and you. Last night was supposed to be the night i'd test his integrity by lynching a zombie, but then he died.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:10 PM

Karosis? Let me see....
Nothing.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I agree, we win together, with Serc (Maria Rivera).
Haha, didn't expect that, didja? But yeah, Serc is the Kid from your team.
And Eloth is a duo killer, and one of the remaining zombies.

That's his fourth post to me where he reveals both Eloth and you. Last night was supposed to be the night i'd test his integrity by lynching a zombie, but then he died.



He told you what you already knew about me, though.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:14 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I agree, we win together, with Serc (Maria Rivera).
Haha, didn't expect that, didja? But yeah, Serc is the Kid from your team.
And Eloth is a duo killer, and one of the remaining zombies.

That's his fourth post to me where he reveals both Eloth and you. Last night was supposed to be the night i'd test his integrity by lynching a zombie, but then he died.


So he thought you me and him(survivor) could win it all?

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:17 PM

But let's face it, we have no real idea who the last zombie is and he does need to be taken care of. You can lynch me today, but my nightkill is can be crucial to rooting out the zombie, especially as i'm the only known killer, so we can discuss it.
I'm willing to take the information of Fener, a person that has given me some really good evidence that led to taking down a zombie, as i'd rather have the information with a large chance of being true over the blind lynching that appears to be the alternative.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:18 PM

View PostSerc, on 11 May 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I agree, we win together, with Serc (Maria Rivera).
Haha, didn't expect that, didja? But yeah, Serc is the Kid from your team.
And Eloth is a duo killer, and one of the remaining zombies.

That's his fourth post to me where he reveals both Eloth and you. Last night was supposed to be the night i'd test his integrity by lynching a zombie, but then he died.


So he thought you me and him(survivor) could win it all?



Not win it all, i'm sure he'd help the other killers should i die, but i tried nightkilling him. That was when the deal was made in PS' night post.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:20 PM

Consider my pact with Fener to be a mutual agreement that helpign eachother, for now, would be in our best interests.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:22 PM

I also suspect the zombies killing Fener was an accident, they couldn't have known which abilities he had, or that he had given their names to me, yet they still killed a potentionally harmless person.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:22 PM

If Tulas IS a zombie, and one of the walkers agrees to help Lynch Tulas, right or wrong, theyre left with 2 members against me u and karosis.

They know they'd be dead. Then me and u could vote Karosis. I dont think anyones gonna go for that.

The only lynch possible might be Karosis. Hes an unknown. And Im not saying hes a zombie, but hes saying basically HE DONT KNOW WERE ZOMBIES OR NOT so he could vote for us.
We could think the same of him.

With me and u, and any two Walkers, we could lynch Karo, and see. If Fener lied and Karo was last zombie, BAM down to humans. Either way we can go fo Tulas lynch tomorow. We wont get it itll be a stalemate.

What do you think? Karo down. I DR protect tonight. You take out walker killer. Leaves me u and tulas and other. And if tulas is a zombie we'd have him 3 to 1.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:25 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

I also suspect the zombies killing Fener was an accident, they couldn't have known which abilities he had, or that he had given their names to me, yet they still killed a potentionally harmless person.



Go read OP. Zombies and Recruited: ZERO DR.
Mercs killing power based on DR.

A recruited zombie merc can no longer night kill.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:26 PM

Well Serc, i'm pretty sure i won't survive the night, and i personally don't care. We're at such a low amount of players that it's about pure luck now, i just care about the human faction winning.

Every time we kill someone, the chances of the zombie winning increase. Imagine the following, we lynch say, Karosis. He turns out not to be a zombie, i night kill X or X nightkills me, two people gone, it's you, and the Walkers.There's a zombie still among us, we squabble about who it si, you don't believe me and i can't defend my claims because i'm dead, you vote for someone, not zombie, it's you, a walker and a zombie, Walker thinks you're zombie, zombie-ally agrees, lynch you, zombie NK's last walker, zombies win.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostTelas, on 11 May 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

Well Serc, i'm pretty sure i won't survive the night, and i personally don't care. We're at such a low amount of players that it's about pure luck now, i just care about the human faction winning.

Every time we kill someone, the chances of the zombie winning increase. Imagine the following, we lynch say, Karosis. He turns out not to be a zombie, i night kill X or X nightkills me, two people gone, it's you, and the Walkers.There's a zombie still among us, we squabble about who it si, you don't believe me and i can't defend my claims because i'm dead, you vote for someone, not zombie, it's you, a walker and a zombie, Walker thinks you're zombie, zombie-ally agrees, lynch you, zombie NK's last walker, zombies win.



Dude fuck that. Im not giving up like you, man, Thats twice you've stopped trying to win, and just tried to ride it out.
LETS TRY TO WIN.

I'd rather BET BIG WIN BIG, BET BIG LOSE BIG.

Even in the scenario you said we dont win, but the last zombie is still outnumbered by his own FACTION.

At least my way we TRY TO WIN FOR US.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:30 PM

But they have to be able to nightkill or there would need to be two zombies amongst us, seeing as Fener had a DR of 3. That could mean A: You're infected, Karosis is infected and a Walker is infected. B: The entire Walker group is infected. C: Karosis, you and i are infected, but i doubt it as i'm not a zombie. Or two walkers + serc, two walkers + Karosis, you get what i mean.

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