[Spite]

Telas, on 04 May 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Sounds believable, Bliss and i tried to kill the following people, on night one:

Sheltatha Lore

Spite

Olar Ethil

Ampelas

And we got Innocence'd.

Also, give me some prayer lovin' the next night before i get eaten by zombies.


Well, it would help.

Now why did you have to ask. I put my provisional with you ano in right after last nights resolution.... now they will know, so maybe I will change it, maybe be I wont.

[Spite]

Well I don't know who Kaschan is, but I do who he isn't so...

remove vote/vote Kaschan

[Fener]

Wow. Lots of reveals. I personnally believe Spite just because it seems more realistic for someone who is trying to survive alone than Kaschans as well as other reasons stated earlier by others. Kaschan gives me a bad gut feeling that just supports the other evidence against him. I won't vote yet as we have weekend break and I'll be on over the weekend often (I expect).

[Telas]

Anomandaris, on 04 May 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Telas, on 04 May 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Sounds believable, Bliss and i tried to kill the following people, on night one:

Sheltatha Lore

Spite

Olar Ethil

Ampelas

And we got Innocence'd.

Also, give me some prayer lovin' the next night before i get eaten by zombies.


Well, it would help.

Sorry, I'm confused. KorvBliss said you targetted Serc on Night 1, but you're saying you targetted 4 different people! How does that work?

Oh, yes, we submitted kill lists, so when one is dead already we go for the next.
Also, day one was Sorrit
Serc
Kashan
Tulas Shorn

I think. The PM's are a bit confusing though.

[Thyrllan]

Is anyone else confused by Telas' kill lists?

[Telas]

Thyrllan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Is anyone else confused by Telas' kill lists?

Yes, i'm confused too.

It basically works like this,

Sorrit
Serc
Kashan
Tulas Shorn

Sorrit gets lynched or dies, and we move onto Serc, etcetera.

[Thyrllan]

Ah, gotcha. Sorrit got lynched so you went for Serc.

[Telas]

Ayup. The list i posted earlier was the original proposed list, but we changed it up.

[Omtose]

Yeah, I'm going to

Vote Kaschan

I'm pretty much completely convinced.

[Path-Shaper]

Quit bolding shit that isn't a vote or removal of.

It is Day 4. The clock has been frozen with 17 Hours and 04 Minutes remaining.
22 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

12 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Tulas Shorn )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Kaschan )
1 Vote for Tellan ( Serc )
4 Votes for Kaschan ( Tellan, Thyrllan, Spite, Omtose )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Karosis, Korbas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Shelthata Lore, Telas

[Telas]

Oh, sorry PS.

[Path-Shaper]

It's okay homie

[Sheltatha Lore]

Path-Shaper, on 04 May 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Quit bolding shit that isn't a vote or removal of.

I was just reading the thread and thinking the same thing. I am inclined to believe spite. However I am going to hold off voting until later on this weekend when I can do a in depth reread.

[Fener]

Kaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 May 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

The zombies are doing a good job of being dead and are becoming less of a threat. I had to point you out to the others because I know you are about to meet your win conditions and hurt us all. I don't want to reveal because I think it'd hurt my faction but I know you are the Voodoo Master. If people want to let that slide then that is up to them.

Ahahah. This is great. Perfect coming from a zombie.

Zombies did attack me night 2. I did use my Zombie BP (A crucifix like what I was fiddling with in my hand) which gives me a
+3 DR against zombies.
If he can create
Meanwhile night 1 some humans attacked me and then left because I looked so holy, which used up my human DR. Hooray! The killers who targeted me night one know I am telling the truth.

So do the zombies. Why would a zombie point out the healer to people? No he would call the healer the voodoo master in hopes of getting him dead. I'm not sad you had to sacrifice a zombie to do it, because if we lynch you today, there are only 5 zombies left. I have a DR of 3 +1 against Zombies. And I can setup alarm wards every single night that give me +1DR against attacks, if I do this I target another alt and if they are a human, their faction gets +1 DR against zombies as well. Or I can pray for enlightenment and if I do it two nights in a row I get a number of alts with factions listed from before other actions(like recruitment, I was very specific with PS about this). I received 5 of them on night 2. 2 were the zombies that died at night, 3 other were humans of which 2 are still alive. I'm not going to divulge that information because then the WIFOM comes down to who is a zombie now and who isn't. Why do you think I was so goddamn unwilliing to vote Korvalain? I KNEW she wasn't a zombie since zombies did not recruit that night and I had her faction from before. Mother Fucking Bullshit Bullshit is what Olar Ethil is throwing around here, folks.

Lets not forget that my target EVERY SINGLE DAY has been hunting zombies. When did I get in a fight with Serc? When he was saying zombies aren't a threat. What have I been doing everytime I post? Trying to find zombies. Why have I stopped going after Serc? Because he does not seem like a zombie. All you humans who claim to be trying to hunt zombies but are trying to set factions in your mind, whatever. I'm actually hunting zombies. If 10 zombies die, guess what. I mother fucking win. And that win has no impact on any human factions on the independents in any way. Just you dirty fucking zombies.

And now you, Olar Ethil, come on and say 'zombies sure are weak, huh'. 'This guy must be the voodoo master, and dont hunt zombies anymore'. Your ploy is pathetic. Utterly pathetic. You quote a zombie you could very well have controlled and use that as your 'proof', then when I poke holes in that theory you could fly a 747 through you 'reveal but don't reveal' that you are a leader. I have not seen you lead all game. You have, as far as I can tell, never been near the front of trains. You aren't acting in any way like a leader. And I'm pretty sure I already know two of the leaders on thread, and guess what, they are playing like leaders with following votes. But you are low-posting all motherfucking game long. No, you are a fucking zombie.

And so I say this to Human Factions. Unless Olar Ethil is your leader, there is literally no reason to vote for me. By Lynching Olar Ethil, you either get another zombie gone, OR a different faction leader gone. What do you get by lynching me? A Dead Voodoo priest, who has the VC to summon agklhlghdsjklgh but who knows what that does, OR the Priest is gone and you lose someone who is trying to offer you protection against zombies. Remember that PS said that Independent VC's do not impair normal faction winning conditions.

There is my fucking reveal. And if Olar Ethil dies and the zombies are utterly unable to recruit for the rest of the game, they cannot hurt me and I will protect one of the two people whos faction I know for the rest of the game, making everyone in their group immune to zombies until all the zombies are dead and my mission on earth is done and I am allowed into heaven.

What I've noticed in this reveal is that, even though JLV said that the basics of each role would be in the OP, not once in this entire reveal did I see a mention of Blessings that protect against Zombies. He talks about how he himself has protection against Zombies, and about how he can set up "alarm wards," but nothing about Blessings. Also, I found some discrepancies in this reveal. In the beginning, Kaschan says he can raise DR by 1 of a whole faction, but by the end of the reveal, he says he can make them completely immune to Zombie attacks. Just a few things I noticed.

[Fener]

Forgive me, I didn't add part of my explanation as I'm posting off my phone.
Here it is:
About the 1 DR raise, if OE dies ( and is a zombie)there will (if suspicions are correct) be another zombie leader who can recruit. Also, howbdo you know Zombies csn only recruit when they have a leader?

[Ruse]

Why are people voting Kaschan? After Spite's reveal I'm convinced that he lied and is the voodoo master, but I'm not going to vote for him, since we still have zombies to find. Anyone who's actually a human faction should not be voting Kaschan unles they think he's a zombie (and if they do, please let me know) since voting and independant has fuck all to do with our VC's. We should be voting zombies first, then each other. Seriously people.

If you DO think he's a zombie, let me know. The only possible reason I can think he wouldn't be the voodoo master, is that OE said Serc was the priest, which is just plain wrong if Spite is telling the truth, which may mean that he isn't what he's (not) claiming he is. But we can prove that easily enough by lynching him in any case.

[Omtose]

Ruse, on 04 May 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Why are people voting Kaschan? After Spite's reveal I'm convinced that he lied and is the voodoo master, but I'm not going to vote for him, since we still have zombies to find. Anyone who's actually a human faction should not be voting Kaschan unles they think he's a zombie (and if they do, please let me know) since voting and independant has fuck all to do with our VC's. We should be voting zombies first, then each other. Seriously people.

If you DO think he's a zombie, let me know. The only possible reason I can think he wouldn't be the voodoo master, is that OE said Serc was the priest, which is just plain wrong if Spite is telling the truth, which may mean that he isn't what he's (not) claiming he is. But we can prove that easily enough by lynching him in any case.

I would think it obvious why we should lynch the voodoo master if we find him. His VCs, if fulfilled, brings a huge new unknown into the game. Personally, I'd rather deal with a large (and getting smaller) group of zombies with no DR and then the other factions than a fuck-us-all-up demon.

[Karosis]

Catching up.

[Eloth]

After a quick read I am more inclined to believe Spite's reveal than I am Kaschan's. At the same time a Kaschan lynch gives more information than one of Spite, as Rashan noted. So between those two I would be leaning towards Kaschan. The choice I see so far is between Olar and Kaschan.

[Karosis]

Omtose, on 04 May 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Ruse, on 04 May 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Why are people voting Kaschan? After Spite's reveal I'm convinced that he lied and is the voodoo master, but I'm not going to vote for him, since we still have zombies to find. Anyone who's actually a human faction should not be voting Kaschan unles they think he's a zombie (and if they do, please let me know) since voting and independant has fuck all to do with our VC's. We should be voting zombies first, then each other. Seriously people.

If you DO think he's a zombie, let me know. The only possible reason I can think he wouldn't be the voodoo master, is that OE said Serc was the priest, which is just plain wrong if Spite is telling the truth, which may mean that he isn't what he's (not) claiming he is. But we can prove that easily enough by lynching him in any case.

I would think it obvious why we should lynch the voodoo master if we find him. His VCs, if fulfilled, brings a huge new unknown into the game. Personally, I'd rather deal with a large (and getting smaller) group of zombies with no DR and then the other factions than a fuck-us-all-up demon.

This - absolutely this

Vote Kaschan

I really love how this game is speeding right along. I think JLV and company did a great job with the setup and the balancing seems quite awesome too. Nice job. I have to go take a dump and eat, or eat and take a dump. Either way I will be back in a minute.