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#241 User is offline   Tulas Shorn 

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:59 AM

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

Im guessing Ill be the first meal?


Look Mom, more WIFOM! This way if you don't die at night, you can say it is because you called me out. And if you do die at night, any team you might have can then claim I'm a zombie because you died. But what if you are recruited? Then we will never know!

Your confusing of the thread with bullshit and WIFOM is boring and poor play.

Of course this is all assuming you are not a Zombie.



The way Kaschan felt the need to finally add "assuming you are not a Zombie" after all his tirades against my thoughts felt forced. Didnt seem like he believed it one bit. In fact its as if he KNOWS in his mind I'm no Zombie because he would know. MAYBE.

But even if not, Kaschan is playing a very powerful role here. My guess is he's some type of Zombie leader the way he descibed the zombie threat. I fished for quite awhile, and he was the only one who stepped up.

Then again he could be one of the leaders of the three human factions for all I know, but more likely an independant.

My point is I think he's definately a major player, and I vote to take him out. I cant figure out Tulas, Sorrit, and crews game yet, but Kachan seems a bit too sure of himself.

Worse case scenario is he is the leader of a human faction. If we lynch him tonight its only a one in three chance he's your leader if your human, and Id take that chance because he's more than likely Zombie or Independant.

Either way I cant see a better option for day one.

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vote Kaschan


Because the night is Dark and Full of Terrors


What makes you think Kaschan has a high-powered role? I'm seeing defensiveness and anger, but nothing to give me an idea of what his role is.

And your comment about being a zombie leader does not make a lot of sense, unless you see him as a player controlling several zombie alts. From the information we have there is no organisation to the zombies, they are simply a horde. In addition, even if he is a zombie it seems unlikely that he would know all the other zombies, even a leader pretty much never knows everyone in his team.

So your guess is that he is a zombie leader. But then again he could be a leader. But also maybe an independent. Can you see that this might be a little confusing?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM

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View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:08 AM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying Posted Image


Thats why I didnt feel the need to clarify.

I was quite sure you'd handle this one.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:09 AM

Bag-o-dicks and fucktard have been used already? it's only day one!

I'm skimmed back up to speed on the thread. Someone said maybe the zombies have to put the zombie speak in to their posts as per a PS rule. I think they may be on to something. I have to go to work and then a service for a friend who died after, so I wont be on for the rest of the day.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:13 AM

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


So, essentially, you are going off gut instinct?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


I don't know, you tell me how often it happens. But while you're at it make sure you count the number of times players comment on something happening behind the scenes and it's not them. Otherwise I must question your scientific method. Do let us know what the results of your investigation are, but in the meantime please come up with something more substantial than "Ooohh you're talking about a role, you must be it!" if you're going make attacks. Lots of people are talking about the zombie roles, which isn't surprising since we know very little about them other than they're dangerous for the rest of us.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:18 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 April 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.


To be fair, it is day 1 :) does anyone expect any different?


Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


So, essentially, you are going off gut instinct?


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 April 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.


Edit: it ate my post :thumbsup:
which was:

To be fair, it is day 1 :D does anyone expect any different?

To be fair, it is day 1 :) does anyone expect any different?


Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :D



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


So, essentially, you are going off gut instinct?

This post has been edited by Ruse: 27 April 2012 - 10:20 AM


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:20 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 April 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

Im guessing Ill be the first meal?


Look Mom, more WIFOM! This way if you don't die at night, you can say it is because you called me out. And if you do die at night, any team you might have can then claim I'm a zombie because you died. But what if you are recruited? Then we will never know!

Your confusing of the thread with bullshit and WIFOM is boring and poor play.

Of course this is all assuming you are not a Zombie.



The way Kaschan felt the need to finally add "assuming you are not a Zombie" after all his tirades against my thoughts felt forced. Didnt seem like he believed it one bit. In fact its as if he KNOWS in his mind I'm no Zombie because he would know. MAYBE.

But even if not, Kaschan is playing a very powerful role here. My guess is he's some type of Zombie leader the way he descibed the zombie threat. I fished for quite awhile, and he was the only one who stepped up.

Then again he could be one of the leaders of the three human factions for all I know, but more likely an independant.

My point is I think he's definately a major player, and I vote to take him out. I cant figure out Tulas, Sorrit, and crews game yet, but Kachan seems a bit too sure of himself.

Worse case scenario is he is the leader of a human faction. If we lynch him tonight its only a one in three chance he's your leader if your human, and Id take that chance because he's more than likely Zombie or Independant.

Either way I cant see a better option for day one.

remove vote

vote Kaschan


Because the night is Dark and Full of Terrors


What makes you think Kaschan has a high-powered role? I'm seeing defensiveness and anger, but nothing to give me an idea of what his role is.

And your comment about being a zombie leader does not make a lot of sense, unless you see him as a player controlling several zombie alts. From the information we have there is no organisation to the zombies, they are simply a horde. In addition, even if he is a zombie it seems unlikely that he would know all the other zombies, even a leader pretty much never knows everyone in his team.

So your guess is that he is a zombie leader. But then again he could be a leader. But also maybe an independent. Can you see that this might be a little confusing?



Defensiveness? Did you read the entire exchange? He attacked me. Even after I tried to clarify. And I dont know that there is a zombie leader but Kaschan himself is the one who suggested that there could be. Out of nowhere. Please re-read. I think you'll see.


Then again Tulas you're sort of in hot water yourself. Kaschan might be the only thing saving you. And I havent even pointed a finger at you. But there is enough. You start defending Kaschan, after we claim hes Zombie or Major Player and you're just justifying what's already being said about you.

Now I havent made up my mind on your crew. But I feel confident about Kaschan, and if I can convince the others to take him down, and Im right, you guys are next.

So get on board. Or I'll stop my attacks on Kaschan and let the others keep going after you. And dont take it personal. People dont think clearly when they're mad. Or hungry?

And if Im wrong about you Im sorry. But if not, repent your sins.

For the Night is Dark and Full of Terrors

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

What the fuck is going on? My post and edit got eaten AND double post? :thumbsup:

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:22 AM

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 19 minutes remaining
32 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

17 votes to lynch, 16 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Fener ( Sorrit, Galain )
3 Votes for Tulas Shorn ( Anomandaris, Silanah, Emurlahn )
3 Votes for Sorrit ( Meanas, Korvalain, Liosan )
1 Vote for Serc ( Kaschan )
2 Votes for Kaschan ( Serc, Thyrllan )
1 Vote for Silanah ( Karosis )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:25 AM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

What the fuck is going on? My post and edit got eaten AND double post? Posted Image


Obviously, this is because you are the King of High House Zombie. It couldnt mean anything else.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:26 AM

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View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :thumbsup:



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


So, essentially, you are going off gut instinct?



View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Right, so I'm still quite interested in the zombie dynamics, I'd imagine that the zombies are going to be working really hard to differentiate their alts from each other, as well possibly have a bait alt (which I totally would do, if I was one of them, it would be awesome fun). The reason I say this is partially because there's a possibility Serc and Thyr are messing around the way they are and Serc's comment about zombies not being dangerous is seems a provoking statement to make in a game where they're killers and cult.

I was also rereading the DR stuff and was wondering about how far the zombie stacking thing will go. If someone's DR rating is high and they get hit by a (semi-guarded/dead/whatever) killer pair as well as a zombie or two, how would that affect the killing/recruitment of that player? I guess it would depend on how many zombies target the player, and what the order of actions is.

Ugh, with so many alt this game it's going to be hell to keep track of who is saying what.



Ah, it was Ruse. Now I'm wondering whether Ruse and Serc might be the same person.


I resent that. There's no way I'm that annoying :)



Yes, you two are very different. Which does nothing to dissuade me from the suspicion you might be the same person. How often have we seen players comment on something happening behind the scenes in a musing sort of way, only to later find out in SH that it was them all along?


I don't know, you tell me how often it happens. But while you're at it make sure you count the number of times players comment on something happening behind the scenes and it's not them. Otherwise I must question your scientific method. Do let us know what the results of your investigation are, but in the meantime please come up with something more substantial than "Ooohh you're talking about a role, you must be it!" if you're going make attacks. Lots of people are talking about the zombie roles, which isn't surprising since we know very little about them other than they're dangerous for the rest of us.



Geez, have I even laid a vote down? I'm saying what is raising my suspicion, not 'this is what it is for sure!' Other people are free to comment on it, and I may also change my mind and go after something else. But yes, it's a healthy dose of gut (and if it wasn't, then then this is not day 1), but also backed up by why I think it might be a possibility. The two alts (Ruse and Serc) could be distancing by one posting in a more 'calm' manner, while the other isn't afraid to put itself out there. Yeah, of course you could be two different people, but you simply saying "yeah well, loads of other people are doing stuff too!" isn't exactly any more of a good argument than my own.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:27 AM

View PostSpite, on 27 April 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Bag-o-dicks and fucktard have been used already? it's only day one!

I'm skimmed back up to speed on the thread. Someone said maybe the zombies have to put the zombie speak in to their posts as per a PS rule. I think they may be on to something. I have to go to work and then a service for a friend who died after, so I wont be on for the rest of the day.


Hope it goes well for you!

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

What the fuck is going on? My post and edit got eaten AND double post? :thumbsup:


Someone still have access to H&M?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:31 AM

Can we have a time and vote update please PS? I want don't have a lot of time but I want to look at candidates for today's lynch and how long we have. I'll read through the thread in the meantime but it'll have to be a skim

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

View PostOmtose, on 27 April 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Geez, have I even laid a vote down? I'm saying what is raising my suspicion, not 'this is what it is for sure!' Other people are free to comment on it, and I may also change my mind and go after something else. But yes, it's a healthy dose of gut (and if it wasn't, then then this is not day 1), but also backed up by why I think it might be a possibility. The two alts (Ruse and Serc) could be distancing by one posting in a more 'calm' manner, while the other isn't afraid to put itself out there. Yeah, of course you could be two different people, but you simply saying "yeah well, loads of other people are doing stuff too!" isn't exactly any more of a good argument than my own.


You're complaining that I made a shitty defense to your shitty argument? That's hilarious. When you figure out how to make a defense against gut feeling aside from dismissing it as idiotic, you let me know.

At least you recognise your argument is shitty I suppose.

Do you really see nothing more interesting in the thread than this? You make me sad.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:34 AM

Err, D'riss, PS updated at post 252 :thumbsup:

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:35 AM

Omtose, tell me one thing.

What would it mean if Ruse and I were the same person?

I can assure you we're not.

But Im interested in what it would mean to you?

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