[D'rek]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Since when?

Paired roles are pretty standard imo.

As well as which the game is "(mostly)" M&P. And while I don't like speculating about that kind of thing, if paired roles fall outside M&P they fall closer to it than anything else that comes to mind.

Well I disagree. M&P / TMDI:1 is the basic-most complexity, so any role should only be on thing - ie "you are a guard". Having off-thread comms and sharing a NA is several degrees of complexity beyond what a basic tutorial would say to describe the Guard role.

And yes, the killers would be paired, but again if you read a basic mafia tutorial, under the description of the Killers role it would say that these are all part of the standard role.

[HoosierDaddy]

You fucking tards. Seriously? I'm the best some of you are coming up with?

[HoosierDaddy]

Well this won't go prettily.

[D'rek]

Are HD and dkt in some sort of grouch war?

[dktorode]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Any thoughts DK?

Would like to hear what you think of Liz and HD.

Would also like people's opinions on whether paired roles are outlandish for M&P.

Liz...no opinion really.
4 posts or something. low poster.
Would go that way for a lynch.

HD is a decent bet, likes to sit in the corner and comment on everything but never really gets stuck in.
But i pretty much put HD in the same chatagory as Obdi and ment really.

Paired roles? in this game?...who knows. Could be.
You can never tell...

[Grief]

H.D., on 01 March 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

You fucking tards. Seriously? I'm the best some of you are coming up with?

Who would you suggest based on stuff that they have posted rather than the lack of posting.

Speaking of which, can Lizra be far from a modkill?

[Grief]

H.D., on 01 March 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

You fucking tards. Seriously? I'm the best some of you are coming up with?

I also love that this is your response to accusations of aggressively going after anything to stir things up.

[The Dude]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

The Dude, on 01 March 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

The Dude, on 01 March 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

back. holy shot... 33 pages... really?

is there a cliff notes version. I am at work and it would take me a good 4+ hours to catch up on 33 pages. That can't all be content...

Almost none of it in fact. Here's the summary I did for Bubba.

Lizra got heat for low posting. Particularly from HD who says her playstyle is generally similar to silencer's.
Khell voted me. He should have some of that Activia stuff or something since he's obviously got a defective gut.
JA thinks HD has played like scum.
Bent also thinks HD has played like scum, though didn't give much reasoning.
Obdi and DK had a big argument about the merits of spam

I'd read up on the last bunch of pages though, we got more content after that (maybe the last 6 or 7?).

Much oblidged! OK, gonna go back 6-7 pages.

Once you're done, your thoughts on Shins accusations against you earlier would be nice (they've not really developed in the intervening time, though a couple of people have chipped in with whether they agree or not).

I have gotten to the parts where he has accused me. They seem to stem more from the fact that he thinks I am hard to lynch and would like to lynch me, rather than me playing like scum. Also, He vaguely mentions me symping, but who am I symping? At this point there isn't much for me to respond too. Not to try to sound OMGUS or anything, but that seems odd play for Shin to be so aggressive so early. It's worth watching.

[D'rek]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

H.D., on 01 March 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

You fucking tards. Seriously? I'm the best some of you are coming up with?

Who would you suggest based on stuff that they have posted rather than the lack of posting.

Speaking of which, can Lizra be far from a modkill?

OP doesn't say a modkill timer, so default is 36 hours, meaning Lizra would be modkilled sometime tomorrow.

[HoosierDaddy]

At least I tried to push a case and had some people come along. You can build off of that.

What have Bubba, Bent, Lizra, and others done?

Now, that's not an argument to keep me around because frankly I was spewing some ridiculous shit last night, but at least you can make a case on me.

[Stalker]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Also, Stalkers vote on me is a joke-vote, I think.

yeah, I still owe you.


remove vote

[Grief]

D, on 01 March 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Since when?

Paired roles are pretty standard imo.

As well as which the game is "(mostly)" M&P. And while I don't like speculating about that kind of thing, if paired roles fall outside M&P they fall closer to it than anything else that comes to mind.

Well I disagree. M&P / TMDI:1 is the basic-most complexity, so any role should only be on thing - ie "you are a guard". Having off-thread comms and sharing a NA is several degrees of complexity beyond what a basic tutorial would say to describe the Guard role.

And yes, the killers would be paired, but again if you read a basic mafia tutorial, under the description of the Killers role it would say that these are all part of the standard role.

I've definitely played games with paired roles that have been called straight M&P. It's not a strict definition and varies by mod, and the game being M&P (or mostly M&P) is definitely not enough to write them off.

[HoosierDaddy]

This game isn't straight M and P.

[The Dude]

Shinrei, on 01 March 2012 - 06:38 AM, said:

Jesus fuck obdi, you neg-repped me!?!?

Remove vote

Vote Obdigore

The fact that he then did this, and hasn't put the vote back on me, makes me think he knew his "case" was BS. If it wasn't late in the day, I'd vote for Shin based on this.

[D'rek]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

D, on 01 March 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Since when?

Paired roles are pretty standard imo.

As well as which the game is "(mostly)" M&P. And while I don't like speculating about that kind of thing, if paired roles fall outside M&P they fall closer to it than anything else that comes to mind.

Well I disagree. M&P / TMDI:1 is the basic-most complexity, so any role should only be on thing - ie "you are a guard". Having off-thread comms and sharing a NA is several degrees of complexity beyond what a basic tutorial would say to describe the Guard role.

And yes, the killers would be paired, but again if you read a basic mafia tutorial, under the description of the Killers role it would say that these are all part of the standard role.

I've definitely played games with paired roles that have been called straight M&P. It's not a strict definition and varies by mod, and the game being M&P (or mostly M&P) is definitely not enough to write them off.

Well it should be. If we don't play with that expectation now lazy mods will continue to poorly use the term for generations to come. THINK OF THE CHILDREN GRIEF!!!

[The Dude]

Shinrei, on 01 March 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

Remove vote

Vote The Dude

Man, I didn't think rep would play into this - we lynched someone in another game recently for using rep. You can send messages secretly that way you know...

oops, didn't see this. retract my earlier post.

[HoosierDaddy]

Gets ignored.

[Vengeance]

K0rbas, on 01 March 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

K0rbas, on 01 March 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

By the way, how does one go about joining a group?

Like a user group?

Ask a mod to move you into one. For a couple of groups you'll need to check with whoever runs them. Are you wanting to be HHM?

Yep, I never got around to officially joining, so I think it's about time I did.

Your kidding right. I thought that you were in at the beginning... How the Fuck else did he get a card. Seriously people Do we just give those out to any fuckwad who is insane in a mafia game. I thought at the very least you had to be a member of the house. Standards people we have to have fucking standards. How else can we distinguish (see are better) ourselves from the unwashed masses.

[Grief]

Reading over the earlier thread, a lot of people really faded away. I still don't like JA's venge vote at the start but since then he's been pretty low profile. Same with Shin, not much of a read other than his accusations aimed at the Dude.

[D'rek]

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Reading over the earlier thread, a lot of people really faded away. I still don't like JA's venge vote at the start but since then he's been pretty low profile. Same with Shin, not much of a read other than his accusations aimed at the Dude.

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Reading over the earlier thread

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Reading over the earlier thread

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Reading over the earlier thread

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Reading over the earlier thread

Grief, on 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

READING OVER

No fucking way would you be willing to do that if you were inno.

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