[Galayn Lord]

Thyrllan, on 07 March 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

ok, Merrid - I have to admit now that my estimation of your scumminess has decreased proportionately to my dislike for Anthras. Your comments about him ring true.



Lynches must happen, but my desire to avoid lynching an inno has been misinterpreted as a desire to protect or even avoid a lynch altogether. There was no signalling from me on Day 1.



Allow me to dispel this error of sympage



Vote Anthras

Could be some late distancing, thinking Anthras was going down anyway. Odd that he was 2nd on the train but I've still seen scum do this because it usually buys them one more day which in this case could end the game.

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Nobody even said whether I was insane for thinking Merrid, Korlat, & Kara was scum team. I was wrong about Korlat being a killer. What about the others?



At Korabas - nice list

Only scum like lists.

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

Any body feel like speculating on what the odd role that JLV put in here might be? The has been very little role spec in this game, maybe thats a newb thing.

It's interesting that this hasn't been brought up yet, and I wonder if Thyr is trying to shift focus from finding scum to role speculation. Not that there's much to speculate about from my perspective.

That was a mini-page read up. More soon.

[Thyrllan]

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

Um, because I wasn't busy when the game started and then my boss left for vacation and I didn't have time to post. By "plenty of time", I mean in terms of the day's timeout - there isn't a lot of discussion going on right now anyway, so it allows me to NOT get fired and still have time to do a full reread and post. Honestly, we have even more to work with now that we have a confirmed scum death.

In reality, you calling my post scummy is what is actually scummy.

Why? Not in the "Heres some evidence" scummy, more like "PING" on the scumdar. LIke you don't care. Trust me, I can relate to all types of RL obstacles. It's maybe D-Day and no one has even shown up

Right, which is why I was glad we hit scum with that lynch, because it gives me more time (that I needed) to really reread the thread and make a decent case, it being D-Day and all.

The reason I called your post scummy is because I didn't see any logic or reasoning to you saying I was scummy. It seemed random. Randomness is often scummy, especially at endgame. So I am very wary of you.

GL, it seems we are feeling the same atm. I initially thought you were playing strangely, but as I read over what you have said all game, I am slowly beginning to think you are inno. You contributed greatly in the first few days, but then you dropped off (your reason sounds legit). The only thing is, as thyr said, you have been posting kind of randomly.

That leaves thyr or Korabas, or Kara. I now think Kara is not scum. He seems to have put an honest effort into putting out cases and helping in general.

Korabas..I've been suprised that nobody really followed up on the whole reveal thing. I completely forgot about it. I'll have to look into your actions since then.

Thyr, as Merrid and Kara and now GL believe, seems the most scummy out of the remaining players. It has been noted that you have had a few questionable comments, and have called the play of others scummy outright a few times, sometimes with no base.

Comments? Questions? Ask me, I am only here for an hour more.

Korabas has to be pretty much CI at this point; when he revealed as lovers with twelve, twelve confirmed it and came up town when we lynched him. The only possible way that Korabas isn't PI is if twelve was a symp and somehow they already knew each other on day 1. I said over and over that we could not revisit this problem and had to test it, and I think we have. If I'm wrong, something is crazy fucked with the game mechanics.

Thyr is scummy as hell. Kara I am on the fence about. Atrahal I don't have a great read on you and my opinion swings back and forth.

All right. I had forgotten what had gone down with Korabas until a few minutes ago.

I feel the same about Thyr. If you want to ask me anything, go ahead. Now that we are on concurrently, maybe we can figure things out.

Atrahal is talking directly to GL. Both refer to me in the 3rd person. I am obviously not directly part of this conversation at this point. I therefore interject my comment, welcome or not.

[Galayn Lord]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

Everybody's been calling me scummy the whole time. Hasn't stopped me from playing the same way or saying what I want.



Kara - has had no heat, no cases against him, smooth sailer - I suspected him from the start, but my gut has been a lying beast this game (at least looking for a killer)

Yeah....that's the mark of a good scum. Doesn't buckle under pressure, sticks to his guns, uses it as proof that he's inno. Doesn't clear you.

Kara is still a main suspect. In fact right now I have to say my top two choices are Thyr and Kara; Atrahal isn't giving me scum vibes and I haven't gotten to a full reread yet anyway.

But if you are town, hold your vote for awhile. Seriously. If we have two scum alive, they will jump on a town lynch and hammer the fuck out of us and end the game if someone votes wrong. Be. Very. Careful.

[Atrahal]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

Everybody's been calling me scummy the whole time. Hasn't stopped me from playing the same way or saying what I want.



Kara - has had no heat, no cases against him, smooth sailer - I suspected him from the start, but my gut has been a lying beast this game (at least looking for a killer)

Yes, and that's wonderful. Be yourself.

I will read up on what Kara has said. As far as I can remember, he has been a smooth sailer because he has been helpful with the cases and seems to be more knowledgable than most, for some reason. Of course this doesn't exempt him.

Also, why have you switched to Kara so suddenly? If he was "in your gut" the whole game, why haven't you spoken out against him?
I would understand GL, because you called his play scummy. This seems random.

[Thyrllan]

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

-snip-

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Nobody even said whether I was insane for thinking Merrid, Korlat, & Kara was scum team. I was wrong about Korlat being a killer. What about the others?



At Korabas - nice list

Only scum like lists.

-snip-

Thank you for understanding the true nature of my comment.
And I'm not trying to shift focus to role spec in a negative way. It's just not been discussed. It could be anything, good or bad. I haven't seen any sign of weird mechanics so I'm curious. PS didn't help at all with his comment

[Atrahal]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

Um, because I wasn't busy when the game started and then my boss left for vacation and I didn't have time to post. By "plenty of time", I mean in terms of the day's timeout - there isn't a lot of discussion going on right now anyway, so it allows me to NOT get fired and still have time to do a full reread and post. Honestly, we have even more to work with now that we have a confirmed scum death.

In reality, you calling my post scummy is what is actually scummy.

Why? Not in the "Heres some evidence" scummy, more like "PING" on the scumdar. LIke you don't care. Trust me, I can relate to all types of RL obstacles. It's maybe D-Day and no one has even shown up

Right, which is why I was glad we hit scum with that lynch, because it gives me more time (that I needed) to really reread the thread and make a decent case, it being D-Day and all.

The reason I called your post scummy is because I didn't see any logic or reasoning to you saying I was scummy. It seemed random. Randomness is often scummy, especially at endgame. So I am very wary of you.

GL, it seems we are feeling the same atm. I initially thought you were playing strangely, but as I read over what you have said all game, I am slowly beginning to think you are inno. You contributed greatly in the first few days, but then you dropped off (your reason sounds legit). The only thing is, as thyr said, you have been posting kind of randomly.

That leaves thyr or Korabas, or Kara. I now think Kara is not scum. He seems to have put an honest effort into putting out cases and helping in general.

Korabas..I've been suprised that nobody really followed up on the whole reveal thing. I completely forgot about it. I'll have to look into your actions since then.

Thyr, as Merrid and Kara and now GL believe, seems the most scummy out of the remaining players. It has been noted that you have had a few questionable comments, and have called the play of others scummy outright a few times, sometimes with no base.

Comments? Questions? Ask me, I am only here for an hour more.

Korabas has to be pretty much CI at this point; when he revealed as lovers with twelve, twelve confirmed it and came up town when we lynched him. The only possible way that Korabas isn't PI is if twelve was a symp and somehow they already knew each other on day 1. I said over and over that we could not revisit this problem and had to test it, and I think we have. If I'm wrong, something is crazy fucked with the game mechanics.

Thyr is scummy as hell. Kara I am on the fence about. Atrahal I don't have a great read on you and my opinion swings back and forth.

All right. I had forgotten what had gone down with Korabas until a few minutes ago.

I feel the same about Thyr. If you want to ask me anything, go ahead. Now that we are on concurrently, maybe we can figure things out.

Atrahal is talking directly to GL. Both refer to me in the 3rd person. I am obviously not directly part of this conversation at this point. I therefore interject my comment, welcome or not.

"you" is not third person. also, you just referred to me in the third person. I never said your comment was unwelcome. Also, this whole topic is completely irrelevant. Why would you bring this up?

edit: "you" bold and in red.

This post has been edited by Atrahal: 08 March 2012 - 10:52 PM

[Thyrllan]

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

Everybody's been calling me scummy the whole time. Hasn't stopped me from playing the same way or saying what I want.



Kara - has had no heat, no cases against him, smooth sailer - I suspected him from the start, but my gut has been a lying beast this game (at least looking for a killer)

Yes, and that's wonderful. Be yourself.

I will read up on what Kara has said. As far as I can remember, he has been a smooth sailer because he has been helpful with the cases and seems to be more knowledgable than most, for some reason. Of course this doesn't exempt him.

Also, why have you switched to Kara so suddenly? If he was "in your gut" the whole game, why haven't you spoken out against him?
I would understand GL, because you called his play scummy. This seems random.

Look back to day before yesterday when I accused him of being Symp #1.

[Thyrllan]

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

Um, because I wasn't busy when the game started and then my boss left for vacation and I didn't have time to post. By "plenty of time", I mean in terms of the day's timeout - there isn't a lot of discussion going on right now anyway, so it allows me to NOT get fired and still have time to do a full reread and post. Honestly, we have even more to work with now that we have a confirmed scum death.

In reality, you calling my post scummy is what is actually scummy.

Why? Not in the "Heres some evidence" scummy, more like "PING" on the scumdar. LIke you don't care. Trust me, I can relate to all types of RL obstacles. It's maybe D-Day and no one has even shown up

Right, which is why I was glad we hit scum with that lynch, because it gives me more time (that I needed) to really reread the thread and make a decent case, it being D-Day and all.

The reason I called your post scummy is because I didn't see any logic or reasoning to you saying I was scummy. It seemed random. Randomness is often scummy, especially at endgame. So I am very wary of you.

GL, it seems we are feeling the same atm. I initially thought you were playing strangely, but as I read over what you have said all game, I am slowly beginning to think you are inno. You contributed greatly in the first few days, but then you dropped off (your reason sounds legit). The only thing is, as thyr said, you have been posting kind of randomly.

That leaves thyr or Korabas, or Kara. I now think Kara is not scum. He seems to have put an honest effort into putting out cases and helping in general.

Korabas..I've been suprised that nobody really followed up on the whole reveal thing. I completely forgot about it. I'll have to look into your actions since then.

Thyr, as Merrid and Kara and now GL believe, seems the most scummy out of the remaining players. It has been noted that you have had a few questionable comments, and have called the play of others scummy outright a few times, sometimes with no base.

Comments? Questions? Ask me, I am only here for an hour more.

Korabas has to be pretty much CI at this point; when he revealed as lovers with twelve, twelve confirmed it and came up town when we lynched him. The only possible way that Korabas isn't PI is if twelve was a symp and somehow they already knew each other on day 1. I said over and over that we could not revisit this problem and had to test it, and I think we have. If I'm wrong, something is crazy fucked with the game mechanics.

Thyr is scummy as hell. Kara I am on the fence about. Atrahal I don't have a great read on you and my opinion swings back and forth.

All right. I had forgotten what had gone down with Korabas until a few minutes ago.

I feel the same about Thyr. If you want to ask me anything, go ahead. Now that we are on concurrently, maybe we can figure things out.

Atrahal is talking directly to GL. Both refer to me in the 3rd person. I am obviously not directly part of this conversation at this point. I therefore interject my comment, welcome or not.

"you" is not third person. also, you just referred to me in the third person. I never said your comment was unwelcome. Also, this whole topic is completely irrelevant. Why would you bring this up?

edit: "you" bold and in red.

Underlined is 3rd person - thought you were engaging GL directly, in a head to head kind of thing. You brought it up

[Thyrllan]

Are we having a communication breakdown?

[Atrahal]

Thyrllan, on 06 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

To help us stir things up a bit, I'm going to state my opinions. I'm no finder, so don't think I'm revealing.



I think that Karatallid is symp #1. He's running the thread a lot of times and I think he's making the smokescreen for his killer to move around. There may be another symp. I would guess Merrid for this, although it would be a bit too obvious. My guess for killer: Korlat

Quoted for convenience. Ok. I found it.

[Atrahal]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Are we having a communication breakdown?

I don't think so. Why do you think that?

[Thyrllan]

Just seemed that way for a minute

[Galayn Lord]

Atrahal, on 08 March 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 06 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

To help us stir things up a bit, I'm going to state my opinions. I'm no finder, so don't think I'm revealing.



I think that Karatallid is symp #1. He's running the thread a lot of times and I think he's making the smokescreen for his killer to move around. There may be another symp. I would guess Merrid for this, although it would be a bit too obvious. My guess for killer: Korlat

Quoted for convenience. Ok. I found it.

Interesting - so, Thyr, you're maintaining that this was your position all along - so now we know that you were wrong about Korlat, who has Kara been symping this whole time?

[Thyrllan]

Maybe you, maybe Atrahal, or maybe he's been a stone cold killer with gargantuan balls.

[Atrahal]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Maybe you, maybe Atrahal, or maybe he's been a stone cold killer with gargantuan balls.

Ok. You state me as a possibility. Please give me an example of her symping me.

[Thyrllan]

can't right now, unfortunately

[Atrahal]

I'll be back shortly, I need to go.

[Galayn Lord]

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Maybe you, maybe Atrahal, or maybe he's been a stone cold killer with gargantuan balls.

This is a bullshit answer. Just FYI.

[Thyrllan]

Galayn Lord, on 08 March 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 08 March 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Maybe you, maybe Atrahal, or maybe he's been a stone cold killer with gargantuan balls.

This is a bullshit answer. Just FYI.

not BS, I just dont know

[Thyrllan]

Karatallid, on 01 March 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Damn Korabas. Shitty to lose that town secret advantage (of course it does make sense to reveal because being lovers provides no advantage if one of the two of you are dead).

However, if we have paired killers (or even a symp who knows his master), this is a perfect opportunity to try to CI one's self and partner/master. I will need more thought on this before I give you more credibility than anyone else.

first mention of paired killers this game - he who smelt it dealt it