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#401 User is offline   Korabas 

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM

Well you see Barghast, i'm not insulting players in this game in general, i was expressing my anger at the bad decision made in lynching okaros, and if you want a better explanation of that ask vengeance, who explained to me that we can all be friends on the forum, but in mafia making friends or being cordial at all is like: and i paraphrase: going to jail wearing only panties, youre gonna get fucked

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

Reading back, it seems that Alkend was against Okaraos, then the Okaros-Korabas team almost from the start. She did basically nothing to harm any other players.
So I think that either this was a random NK, Atrahal was a symp attacking two innos and was hit by misjudged NK, Atrahal made Korabas unhappy by lynching Okaros(possible symp-scum relationship), or all three of these are wrong and I am a nincompoop.

Of course more than one of these could be valid concurrently.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.



What aare you looking for?
I doubt you'll come to any solid answers.
First, you have to realize that
Overall this is an exercise in futility
Maybe it will help you, but it can lead people astray too


WIFOM!

(I feel special now.)

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:44 PM

View PostKorabas, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Well you see Barghast, i'm not insulting players in this game in general, i was expressing my anger at the bad decision made in lynching okaros, and if you want a better explanation of that ask vengeance, who explained to me that we can all be friends on the forum, but in mafia making friends or being cordial at all is like: and i paraphrase: going to jail wearing only panties, youre gonna get fucked



Here everybody was about to call you PI, and you go quoting Veng.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:45 PM

View PostKorabas, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Well you see Barghast, i'm not insulting players in this game in general, i was expressing my anger at the bad decision made in lynching okaros, and if you want a better explanation of that ask vengeance, who explained to me that we can all be friends on the forum, but in mafia making friends or being cordial at all is like: and i paraphrase: going to jail wearing only panties, youre gonna get fucked


There's a difference between not making friends and insulting people.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.



What aare you looking for?
I doubt you'll come to any solid answers.
First, you have to realize that
Overall this is an exercise in futility
Maybe it will help you, but it can lead people astray too


So you are proposing I do nothing? That I don't try to improve our situation?
No. I'm doing something before I have to leave.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:53 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.



What aare you looking for?
I doubt you'll come to any solid answers.
First, you have to realize that
Overall this is an exercise in futility
Maybe it will help you, but it can lead people astray too


So you are proposing I do nothing? That I don't try to improve our situation?
No. I'm doing something before I have to leave.



No, I applaud your ambition to do something, just be careful - you will distract people (and yourself) with speculations that are based on trying to "be the killer"

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:57 PM

Makes sense. And a suggestion for you: Don't suggest that we go to night without a lynch...that is nearly as bad an idea as voitng night outright.

edit: wrote "lunch" instead of "lynch". hehe.

This post has been edited by Atrahal: 01 March 2012 - 10:59 PM


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

Have to leave now, will be back later.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:05 PM

View PostBarghast, on 01 March 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Well you see Barghast, i'm not insulting players in this game in general, i was expressing my anger at the bad decision made in lynching okaros, and if you want a better explanation of that ask vengeance, who explained to me that we can all be friends on the forum, but in mafia making friends or being cordial at all is like: and i paraphrase: going to jail wearing only panties, youre gonna get fucked


There's a difference between not making friends and insulting people.

I did say"or be cordial at all"
But thats immaterial right now. We need to find the killer, and we cant get distracted anymore. Day 1 RP is fine but adter that we need to get down to business

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:37 PM

Korabas, you can express your anger all you like, but A ) it is not going to change anything, and B ) you left us very little choice. Your reveal gave us nothing to go on except "believe me 'cause I said so".

So now we "need to get down to business". What ideas do you have? Still thinking Thyr is worth looking at, or do you have a different target?

I personally am suspicious of Galayn Lord. The suggestion to change the vote at the last minute was stupid, as whoever we chose would have no time to defend themselves, and even if they could there would be no time to change again. A speed vote sucks for that exact reason. Also, I think it is possible that he could be scum trying to appear inno by siding with the inno. These are just preliminary thoughts, I would be interested to see what other people think.

Also, Tiam, at least a full stop occasionally? Please?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:41 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.


View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Reading back, it seems that Alkend was against Okaraos, then the Okaros-Korabas team almost from the start. She did basically nothing to harm any other players.
So I think that either this was a random NK, Atrahal was a symp attacking two innos and was hit by misjudged NK, Atrahal made Korabas unhappy by lynching Okaros(possible symp-scum relationship), or all three of these are wrong and I am a nincompoop.

Of course more than one of these could be valid concurrently.


Uh, so you referred to yourself instead of Alkend like three times in these two posts. That's pretty weird. Did you forget your alt's name? Are you the FM? :)

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:43 PM

View PostBarghast, on 01 March 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Damn, Alkend and Okaros. Hope we'll have a better lynching reason today.


Fine. Care to provide us with your thoughts?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 01 March 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.


View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Reading back, it seems that Alkend was against Okaraos, then the Okaros-Korabas team almost from the start. She did basically nothing to harm any other players.
So I think that either this was a random NK, Atrahal was a symp attacking two innos and was hit by misjudged NK, Atrahal made Korabas unhappy by lynching Okaros(possible symp-scum relationship), or all three of these are wrong and I am a nincompoop.

Of course more than one of these could be valid concurrently.


Uh, so you referred to yourself instead of Alkend like three times in these two posts. That's pretty weird. Did you forget your alt's name? Are you the FM? :)


Ach. I keep doing that! :) I had to keep reminding myself not to write my name a bunch of times. Also, I've never seen the name Alkend before. Where the hell did that come from?

And on a serious note, chances are high that there is no FM in this game.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:51 PM

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

Korabas, you can express your anger all you like, but A ) it is not going to change anything, and B ) you left us very little choice. Your reveal gave us nothing to go on except "believe me 'cause I said so".

So now we "need to get down to business". What ideas do you have? Still thinking Thyr is worth looking at, or do you have a different target?

I personally am suspicious of Galayn Lord. The suggestion to change the vote at the last minute was stupid, as whoever we chose would have no time to defend themselves, and even if they could there would be no time to change again. A speed vote sucks for that exact reason. Also, I think it is possible that he could be scum trying to appear inno by siding with the inno. These are just preliminary thoughts, I would be interested to see what other people think.

Also, Tiam, at least a full stop occasionally? Please?


Just to clarify, I never suggested voting for anyone else (well, almost). I voted for Okaros, removed to make sure we had time to discuss things as much as possible, and I also wanted to see who HE wanted to lynch. Alkend suggested a speed lynch as an option at one point. But no one ever seriously entertained it except Okaros, of course, since he was L-1. The only other person I was willing to lynch was Korabas, for the various reasons I laid out in the past few pages - mainly that he was the other lover pair and he revealed and disappeared. I can't imagine twelve agreeing to a reveal like that just to save himself on day 1, either, so that is really weird to me. Also it's weird that Korabas revealed and not Okaros....

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:54 PM

ALSO. PEOPLE. Someone targeting an innocent player is not always scum. Someone disagreeing with you is not always scum. Can we stop using the defence "you disagreed with me so you must be scum"? THAT is the reason I voted for Okaros.

It's also why I disagree with much of this post:

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Reading back, it seems that Alkend was against Okaraos, then the Okaros-Korabas team almost from the start. She did basically nothing to harm any other players.
So I think that either this was a random NK, Atrahal was a symp attacking two innos and was hit by misjudged NK, Atrahal made Korabas unhappy by lynching Okaros(possible symp-scum relationship), or all three of these are wrong and I am a nincompoop.

Of course more than one of these could be valid concurrently.


There is nothing to suggest Alkend was a symp who was hit by her own killer. Also, if Korabas was the killer and attacked Atrahal for her case on Okaros, why would she have gone for Alkend and not for Tiam? In addition, why would she attack anyone who could could be linked to her and Okaros, especially once the lynch had already occurred.

This brings me to the idea that this was either a random NK, or was chosen with the aim of casting suspicion on Korabas. Which doesn't really lead us anywhere. So instead, I think we should keep doing what we have been, and poking players to see what comes up.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:54 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 01 March 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Atrahal was NK'd last night. Why would the scum target her? Will do a re-read and see what she was posting and what content it was comprised of.


View PostAtrahal, on 01 March 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Reading back, it seems that Alkend was against Okaraos, then the Okaros-Korabas team almost from the start. She did basically nothing to harm any other players.
So I think that either this was a random NK, Atrahal was a symp attacking two innos and was hit by misjudged NK, Atrahal made Korabas unhappy by lynching Okaros(possible symp-scum relationship), or all three of these are wrong and I am a nincompoop.

Of course more than one of these could be valid concurrently.


Uh, so you referred to yourself instead of Alkend like three times in these two posts. That's pretty weird. Did you forget your alt's name? Are you the FM? :)


Ach. I keep doing that! :) I had to keep reminding myself not to write my name a bunch of times. Also, I've never seen the name Alkend before. Where the hell did that come from?

And on a serious note, chances are high that there is no FM in this game.


Is that so... :)

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:57 PM

View PostKorabas, on 01 March 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 01 March 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 01 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Well you see Barghast, i'm not insulting players in this game in general, i was expressing my anger at the bad decision made in lynching okaros, and if you want a better explanation of that ask vengeance, who explained to me that we can all be friends on the forum, but in mafia making friends or being cordial at all is like: and i paraphrase: going to jail wearing only panties, youre gonna get fucked


There's a difference between not making friends and insulting people.

I did say"or be cordial at all"
But thats immaterial right now. We need to find the killer, and we cant get distracted anymore. Day 1 RP is fine but adter that we need to get down to business


Good idea. How about, you know, you like, start posting or something?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 01 March 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

Korabas, you can express your anger all you like, but A ) it is not going to change anything, and B ) you left us very little choice. Your reveal gave us nothing to go on except "believe me 'cause I said so".

So now we "need to get down to business". What ideas do you have? Still thinking Thyr is worth looking at, or do you have a different target?

I personally am suspicious of Galayn Lord. The suggestion to change the vote at the last minute was stupid, as whoever we chose would have no time to defend themselves, and even if they could there would be no time to change again. A speed vote sucks for that exact reason. Also, I think it is possible that he could be scum trying to appear inno by siding with the inno. These are just preliminary thoughts, I would be interested to see what other people think.

Also, Tiam, at least a full stop occasionally? Please?


Just to clarify, I never suggested voting for anyone else (well, almost). I voted for Okaros, removed to make sure we had time to discuss things as much as possible, and I also wanted to see who HE wanted to lynch. Alkend suggested a speed lynch as an option at one point. But no one ever seriously entertained it except Okaros, of course, since he was L-1. The only other person I was willing to lynch was Korabas, for the various reasons I laid out in the past few pages - mainly that he was the other lover pair and he revealed and disappeared. I can't imagine twelve agreeing to a reveal like that just to save himself on day 1, either, so that is really weird to me. Also it's weird that Korabas revealed and not Okaros....


Okaros wasnt on

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:01 AM

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

Korabas, you can express your anger all you like, but A ) it is not going to change anything, and B ) you left us very little choice. Your reveal gave us nothing to go on except "believe me 'cause I said so".

So now we "need to get down to business". What ideas do you have? Still thinking Thyr is worth looking at, or do you have a different target?

I personally am suspicious of Galayn Lord. The suggestion to change the vote at the last minute was stupid, as whoever we chose would have no time to defend themselves, and even if they could there would be no time to change again. A speed vote sucks for that exact reason. Also, I think it is possible that he could be scum trying to appear inno by siding with the inno. These are just preliminary thoughts, I would be interested to see what other people think.

Also, Tiam, at least a full stop occasionally? Please?


?

Who are you referring to? Tiam hasn't posted in hours, and the last thing he said was that weird double post a few minutes apart....

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