[Galayn Lord]

Well, I'm going to

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for now, at least until I can go back over some things or someone else comments. Right now Okaros is in the easy seat for a lynch, which I am really not opposed to, so I may swing back to him if nothing else materializes. However IGMEOY, Tiam, and Korabas's legitimacy is going to hang on who we lynch and their CF, so it seems unlikely that enough people would vote for him in time.

[Karatallid]

Okaros, I really don't think there is anyway out of this for you without hurting us and benefiting scum with wasted time focusing on you. So here is what I suggest: help us as much as you can before being lynched today. That way if you are town, at least we have your thoughts.

[Karatallid]

Damn. Flaw in logic that I just considered. If Okaros is scum and a symp, which seems unlikely with Korabas being the one who reveals which is more of a symp move, he will come up as town.

I still am willing to risk trusting Korabas, but I will have a grain of salt taken with what he says.

[Galayn Lord]

Karatallid, on 01 March 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

So I like the comment about Korabas becoming VPI if Okaros turns up town. I can't see any holes in the logic. Okaros confirmed the lover connection, so if Okaros turns up town we have someone who I at least would trust through the rest of the game. So actually, this could be a boon for us instead of an entire waste of time.

I'll switch my vote for this reason. The case on him is still crap, but I would like to remedy the loss of our lover pair.

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I agree that voting Okaros is probably a good idea, but yes, there are holes in the logic. This game has been labeled M&P but honestly I don't know how much stock I put into that. In my mind, WCS is that killer has two symps, knows one of them (maybe the other symp knows the killer instead), and now he's trying to VPI himself for the entire game by fake revealing as lovers RIGHT AS OKAROS HITS L-1.

Ok, I mean, that's pretty out there but it's possible. If Okaros gets the lynch and comes up town, I might put Korabas in the PI camp, not VPI, and certainly not CI. After all, the reveal was a mistake if it's real and it's working as intended if it's fake.

[Galayn Lord]

x-post with Kara. Glad you saw part of that as well.

[Karatallid]

Got to go. Sorry that I won't be able to be around for the end of the day, but I feel optimistic.

[Tiamatha]

Im travelling home so have to post from my phone. GL what i meant is that if we dont lynch them, if we believe them and don't lynch them then scum wluld have to kill them. Otherwise it'd be easier for us to lynch scum. Therefore if they are alive in a few days and scum have left them alone then how could we not lynch one? You're right by saying it is better to do it today.

[Okaros]

Fine. My thoughts are after you lynch me and I bear my lost bet in shame. I would focus on Tia and Anthras. I still feel that Tia was doing some symping of Anthras by building that bullshit case on me that you all ate up like it was cake because you are all fuck tards. Of the two I think Anthras is most likely the killer. Notice how he has been remarkebly quite since his day 1 vote on me.

If Anthras turns out to be inno then I would switch my focus on either Korlat or Barghast (but don't forget TIa). Both have been very quite. Put pressure on those two and see what gets stirred up and normally I say use your best judgement but we know that your best judgement isn't good enough (fucktards).

[Okaros]

Fuck I completely forgot that Kesso was even playing. Throw him in with Korlat and Barghast in the you need to put pressure on those to see what comes up. Merrid I actually get an inno vibe from even though the fucktard voted for me and really got my train going (fucktards)

[Galayn Lord]

Okaros, on 01 March 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

Fine. My thoughts are after you lynch me and I bear my lost bet in shame. I would focus on Tia and Anthras. I still feel that Tia was doing some symping of Anthras by building that bullshit case on me that you all ate up like it was cake because you are all fuck tards. Of the two I think Anthras is most likely the killer. Notice how he has been remarkebly quite since his day 1 vote on me.

If Anthras turns out to be inno then I would switch my focus on either Korlat or Barghast (but don't forget TIa). Both have been very quite. Put pressure on those two and see what gets stirred up and normally I say use your best judgement but we know that your best judgement isn't good enough (fucktards).

Unfortunately it's your "fucktard" lover partner who is (partially? mostly?) responsible for your lynch now, regardless of whether you would have gotten lynched after hitting L-1. And for day 1 people usually end up jumping on the "best" case, even if it's shitty, so I don't think you did yourself any favors with the way you played. Nice to hear your thoughts, though.

[Galayn Lord]

Tiamatha, on 01 March 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Im travelling home so have to post from my phone. GL what i meant is that if we dont lynch them, if we believe them and don't lynch them then scum wluld have to kill them. Otherwise it'd be easier for us to lynch scum. Therefore if they are alive in a few days and scum have left them alone then how could we not lynch one? You're right by saying it is better to do it today.

No, you almost had it but came to the wrong conclusion. The problem is that scum DON'T have to kill them, and if we later go back and lynch one of the lovers (assuming they really are) late in the game, it could be a fatal move for town. So either we lynch one of them or let them ride it out, barring other shit that comes to light.

[Tiamatha]

This last post has me more on your side. Its ridiculous that your were hiding because of your bet. If you had played normally i wouldn't have picked up on it. If your bet mattered that much i would have done what korlat did whom i think is your nemesis and lay extremely low on day one. I don't think we have the numbers to switch though. If we do i'd go for kara or a random shot with anthras. Your wrong thinking i'm scum i'm trying to play best for town.

[Tiamatha]

well GL it has to be now then because i'd be scared of getting played by extremely clever scum.

[Tiamatha]

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[Galayn Lord]

Tiamatha, on 01 March 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

well GL it has to be now then because i'd be scared of getting played by extremely clever scum.

Uh huh. Well, we have about an hour left. I agree that we (unfortunately) need to lynch one of them now because of the possibility you are mentioning, but the irony is I suspect you of the same thing. So we'll see where the rest of the day takes us and then, onto day 2...

[Galayn Lord]

Ok now he's at L-1. Can we chill out since we have an hour left? Where the fuck is Korabas? He needs to come back and fucking explain, goddammit.

[Okaros]

If I had to select anyone as PI other than Korabas I would say that Kara as he doens't seem to be as big a fucktard as the rest of you. He actually saw through the fucktard case that Tia put up and was willing to actually discuss the flaws of the case that the rest of you fucktards are clearly ignoring. Alkend at this point seems less scummy and more worthless townie. Thry and GL shouldn't be ignored. They could be either scum or townie. Can't really tell yet. I've let my feelings be known regarding Tia and Antrhas. Merrid As mentioned before I am leaning town not scum.

Top picks for scum

Antrhas,
Tia,
Atrhal
GL
Thry
Kesso,
Barghast,
Korlat
Merrid
Kara
Alkend
Korabas
Okaros

Though 3-5 could be swapped for 6-8 once we learn more about the low posters. The last 5 I feel pretty sure about but I would only be sure of Korabas.

[Tiamatha]

there is 3 anoms and 1 guest which doesn't help a different decision. If everyone was around then we could at least have a choice. I won't be home for another 30mins

[Galayn Lord]

Korabas hasn't posted at all since his reveal bullshit. That irritates me to no end and fucks town straight in the ass.

[Okaros]

Tiamatha, on 01 March 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

This last post has me more on your side. Its ridiculous that your were hiding because of your bet. If you had played normally i wouldn't have picked up on it. If your bet mattered that much i would have done what korlat did whom i think is your nemesis and lay extremely low on day one. I don't think we have the numbers to switch though. If we do i'd go for kara or a random shot with anthras. Your wrong thinking i'm scum i'm trying to play best for town.

My bet had absolutely nothing to do with the way I played. I want to find scum. I may be a roled townie but it's not a great role other than my list of suspects is 1 less than everyone else so I played as I would a RI.