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Posted 02 December 2020 - 03:56 PM

View PostTerez, on 01 December 2020 - 09:15 PM, said:

He wouldn't throw her under the bus like he would his sons, no, but he does disrespect her all the time. She's not a great person and I don't have much sympathy for her but making comments like that about her in public is extremely disrespectful and humiliating for her. Everyone agrees that she is the one person behind the scenes trying to get him to act right because his behavior in general is embarrassing for her. Even now the anonymous sources are all saying she's the only one trying to talk him into conceding. He adores her but he doesn't respect her.

I think she buys into the Kushner worldview totally and mostly into what her father does. Her reputation for being "the good one" seems to mostly come from off the record interviews with reporters like Maggie Haberman, who aren't capable of doing more than just passing along what she's leaked. It's not backed up by actions of actual resistance or taking public stands against the many things that are wrong.

So I don't believe at all that Ivanka is the one good one out of that whole passel of crooks. Most of what she actually does goes against the idea of being a good person.
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Posted 02 December 2020 - 04:15 PM

I literally said in my post that I don't think she is a great person and I don't have much sympathy for her. Why are you twisting my words?

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Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

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And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 02 December 2020 - 04:45 PM

Encouraged by Biden's communication team that has been announced. It will be wonderful to actually see normalcy in the WH press briefings. I think there is going to be culture shock for people when we see how operationally normal/mundane/boring Biden's presidency is. It's going to feel good.
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Posted 02 December 2020 - 05:13 PM

View PostTerez, on 02 December 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

I literally said in my post that I don't think she is a great person and I don't have much sympathy for her. Why are you twisting my words?

I'm not twisting your words at all and said what I did to add some context to the "Ivanka appears to be the one telling her father to concede" line.

Can we take this down a few notches? I'd like to be friendly.
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Posted 02 December 2020 - 05:24 PM

'Ivanka Trump wants to be the "first female president"[...]

"I think she'd want to be the [first] female president," said Marissa Velez Kraxberger, a film producer who worked for Ivanka for two years at her now-defunct company. "I don't think she's actually ever had any interest in fashion but everything was an angle to gain more power in whatever possible way."

Ivanka Trump garnered only 4 percent support in a recent Newsmax poll, behind Vice President Mike Pence, her brother Donald Trump Jr. and other possible GOP hopefuls, but sources close to her say she almost certainly will consider a presidential bid of her own.

"Everyone is saying that she's running for office, and that's the ultimate compliment for her," said one source from her New York social circle. "Her recent stance as pro-life was making her ambitions very clear that she is laying the groundwork."

"[There will] will definitely be a power struggle between [Ivanka] and her brother, who is obviously more connected to the base," and one top Republican fundraiser.

But their ambitions may be thwarted by New York's fraud investigations [...] former Trump Organization consigliere Michael Cohen suspects that will ultimately be their undoing.'

https://www.alternet...2/ivanka-trump/

'Trump Inevitably Flips Out at Georgia Elections Official Who Begged Him to Stop Threats to Workers

[...] with a grim inevitability, Trump has turned his fury on Sterling, and ramped up his baseless conspiracy theories about the election results. In a tweet late Tuesday, Trump shared the video of Sterling's pleas alongside more incendiary misinformation about his loss. He raged: "Rigged Election. Show signatures and envelopes. Expose the massive voter fraud in Georgia. What is Secretary of State and [Gov. Brian Kemp] afraid of?"'

https://www.thedaily...m-down?ref=home

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Posted 02 December 2020 - 06:20 PM

I can only hope if this nightmare dark timeline comes to pass that the mudslinging between Ivanka and don that will inevitable result will take them both down.

Pretty sad day when the title president of the United States I is teen as a cool adornment, no different than the newest watch or an expensive diamond necklace
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Posted 02 December 2020 - 07:39 PM

Pardon bribery scheme. Gonna dominate things in a hot NY min. Buckle in.
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Posted 03 December 2020 - 01:20 AM

'Less than a week after receiving a presidential pardon for lying to the FBI, Mike Flynn is pushing a call for martial law[...]

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who was Trump's first national security adviser and before that his most important military validator, circulated a petition for martial law in a Tuesday tweet. "Freedom never kneels except for God," Flynn commented.

The petition, from a Tea Party affiliate[...], implored Trump to proclaim "limited martial law" and order the military to conduct a do-over of the presidential election so as to reflect what it claims is "the true will of the people." [...]

[...] the petition suggested that unless Trump is installed for another term, his supporters would engage in violence. "Without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent," it asserted.'

https://www.thedaily...for-martial-law

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 08:56 AM

Hmm, vote the way we want or we will use violence to achieve our aims...

Sounds nice and democratic!
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Posted 03 December 2020 - 03:05 PM

I can’t remember the quote verbatim. Its from the prince of nothing series and I’m Bakker explains that prince proyas is only so devout before the gods because it actually allows him to fake humility before a king who is essentially absent and so it doesn’t hurt his pride but he can use that power of his faith to lord it over others and disagree with anything earthly he dislikes. I see everyday how accurate that insight can be.

On the Georgia side of things I phone everyday that trumps action suppress Rey local turnout. It will be too funny if trump causes the democrats to win the senate because he can’t even muster the discipline to avoid friendly fire.
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Posted 03 December 2020 - 05:09 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 03 December 2020 - 01:20 AM, said:

'Less than a week after receiving a presidential pardon for lying to the FBI, Mike Flynn is pushing a call for martial law[...]

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who was Trump's first national security adviser and before that his most important military validator, circulated a petition for martial law in a Tuesday tweet. "Freedom never kneels except for God," Flynn commented.

The petition, from a Tea Party affiliate[...], implored Trump to proclaim "limited martial law" and order the military to conduct a do-over of the presidential election so as to reflect what it claims is "the true will of the people." [...]

[...] the petition suggested that unless Trump is installed for another term, his supporters would engage in violence. "Without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent," it asserted.'

https://www.thedaily...for-martial-law


The absolute STONES on this MFer, he commits what is essentially what? Treason and lying to a government agency? Gets pardoned by a corrupt president, and then goes out to try to INCITE a coup with a call for Martial Law?

You gotta be....holy fuck these people are blatant in their naked grab for power.

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Also, I keep seeing people say that trump is furious with Barr and will fire him....no...no no no no people...Barr is very likely the one with the DIRT on Trump. He's got the receipts. The flight logs from Epstein's planes ect. Remembering that Barr's disgusting father gave Epstein the job that landed him amongst the elite where he was a predator for young women. Barr could easily put Trump in the direst state of his life in a NY minute with what he likely knows.

So Trumps fury at Barr will remain that...ineffectual anger.

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 05:42 PM

This woman is going to be the standout sketch on this weekend SNL. Mark my words. People are already spoofing this.

This woman is drunk, high, or simply unhinged...


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Posted 03 December 2020 - 05:51 PM

I'm going to propose marriage to her. I'm in love.
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Posted 03 December 2020 - 05:58 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 December 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

This woman is going to be the standout sketch on this weekend SNL. Mark my words. People are already spoofing this.

This woman is drunk, high, or simply unhinged...




That look of distress on Giuliani's face....

Actually she might have gotten drunk trying to keep up with him.
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Posted 04 December 2020 - 06:54 PM

'Trump's nominee for a senior post at the Pentagon has repeatedly spread false conspiracies about the 2020 election, reposting tweets that it was stolen from Trump as part of an attempted "coup" and that Trump should declare martial law[...] Texan Scott O'Grady, an ex-fighter pilot who's been nominated for assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, retweeted a post on Nov. 25 that falsely declared, "Trump won & Biden & his Comrades will now attempt a coup." The tweet featured a doctored photo of Biden with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Several days later, he reposted a tweet suggesting it was time for Trump to invoke martial law. "I don't know who needs to hear this, [...] But calling for martial law is not a bad idea when there is an attempted coup against the president and this country happening right now." [...] also posted an article about former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn calling for martial law in a petition'

https://www.thedaily...n-coup?ref=home

'he called former President Barack Obama and military generals "sworn socialists," and advocated that the military justice system should bring back treason charges. He retweeted a tweet that called former Defense Secretary James Mattis a "traitor."

He tweeted that Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a star witness during the Trump impeachment hearings, should be charged "for insurrection because he is a biased liberal political operative" [...]

[...] key position within the Department of Defense's policy shop overseeing operations in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. The position is a political appointment, and if O'Grady is confirmed, he would only fill the role until the start of the Biden administration [hell freezes over his dead body].

His nomination, which was sent to the Senate on Monday, comes as the Pentagon's top civilian officials have been hastily replaced with perceived Trump loyalists and conspiracy theorists despite some lacking credentials -- and in some cases, lacking Senate confirmation -- for the positions.'

https://www.cnn.com/...-law/index.html

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 09:13 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 December 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

This woman is going to be the standout sketch on this weekend SNL. Mark my words. People are already spoofing this.

This woman is drunk, high, or simply unhinged...




'only recently came off probation for harass[ing] her boyfriend’s ex-wife with sex videos. According to police reports obtained by Deadline Detroit, Carone stalked the woman for two years, sending several explicit videos of Carone and her boyfriend having sex. Investigators linked an email address used to send the videos back to Carone, who eventually admitted to sending the videos, saying she wanted to send the ex-wife “over the top.” She faced obscenity and computer crime charges that were later reduced to misdemeanor disorderly conduct.'

https://www.thedaily...-tapes?ref=home
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Posted 06 December 2020 - 04:43 AM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 05 December 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 December 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

This woman is going to be the standout sketch on this weekend SNL. Mark my words. People are already spoofing this.

This woman is drunk, high, or simply unhinged...




'only recently came off probation for harass[ing] her boyfriend's ex-wife with sex videos. According to police reports obtained by Deadline Detroit, Carone stalked the woman for two years, sending several explicit videos of Carone and her boyfriend having sex. Investigators linked an email address used to send the videos back to Carone, who eventually admitted to sending the videos, saying she wanted to send the ex-wife "over the top." She faced obscenity and computer crime charges that were later reduced to misdemeanor disorderly conduct.'

https://www.thedaily...-tapes?ref=home


This isn't really pertinent to anything, but not for nothing: If she's willing to be this crazy in public... can you imagine?

Just... can you imagine? Whooo.
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Posted 07 December 2020 - 02:52 PM

This is now insanse. Everyday trump, his lawyers and the White House spokesperson are now just flat out calling for the elections to be ignored. The majority, by far, of republican senators and congressman either support or remain silent.

Something tells me they will all find their voice once trump is gone but by then it’s too late.
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Posted 07 December 2020 - 03:08 PM

This doesn't surprise me anymore.
These are bad people

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Posted 07 December 2020 - 07:22 PM

I don't think they will all of a sudden get their criticism muscles when Trump is gone, because he won't be gone. He'll tweet threats and will come to their states and districts and back the QAnon nutbag and primary them out if they say anything bad about him. I hope I'm wrong. But sadly it is now the party of Trump. The name should change, something like the Trumplican party or, well, I think most pundits already refer to them as Trumpists or Trumpism.
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