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#9761 User is offline   Aptorian 

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Posted 23 November 2019 - 03:39 PM

Jail cell suicide more likely.
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 03:50 PM

So more chaos and also some bad reporting.

Did trump get the navy secretary fired for defiance, did the defense secretary fire him for going outside of the chain command (seemingly a bit overkill), or was it for a secret back channel deal that he disapproved of (honorable) or because trump told him to.

Was the navy secretary fighting for good order or discipline or just trying to avoid a or nightmare for the navy.

I honestly can’t tell. Every story tells it a slightly different way. Still just another cabinet position emptied.
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 04:15 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 23 November 2019 - 05:05 AM, said:

'Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden'

https://www.cnn.com/...QBfiikDNXwjNUlQ


And our next witness is....


Every single time one of the fuckers stands in the way of Trump's crimes/impeachment so vehemently and nonsensically like Nunes does, I wonder if they are somehow connected to the corruption and I'm not at all surprised they are.
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 06:14 PM

Nunes also comes from a family of dairy farmers that uses illegal immigrant labor frequently. His efforts towards making illegal immigration a scary thing is helping his family pay less wages and take less care of the workers there.

The degree to which he's a craven asshole for his simple economic interests and on the orders of Trump is shocking.
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Posted 25 November 2019 - 06:26 PM

Devin Nunes' cow
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 06:21 PM

'Johnson claimed that his story substantiated Trump's innocence. It showed that on Aug. 31—well before House Democrats were alerted to a whistleblower complaint about Trump's alleged extortion of Ukraine—Trump had dismissed the idea. [...]

Tuesday night's Times story guts this narrative. It shows that in late August, days before Trump's call with Johnson, White House lawyers told the president about the whistleblower complaint. The lawyers did so, according to the article, in order "to determine whether they were legally required to give [the complaint] to Congress." To reach that determination, they would have had to tell Trump at least the gist of the complaint. [...]

At face value, Trump's statements to Johnson and Sondland never made sense. Why would he say "I want nothing" while simultaneously demanding that Zelensky "go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations" of Biden and the Democrats? [...] why would Trump introduce the lawyerly Latin phrase "quid pro quo," which neither Johnson nor Sondland had used? California Rep. Eric Swalwell, a Democratic member of the Intelligence Committee, has noted the oddity of Trump's words. Saying "There's no quid pro quo" in response to vague queries, Swalwell observed last week, is "like being pulled over for speeding … and saying, 'I didn't rob the bank. I didn't rob the bank.'"'

But now they need to get some people to testify to this---against Trump's orders....

https://slate.com/ne...-not-truth.html


'Trump Tax Docs Show "Significant" Inconsistencies: Report
The documents appear to show a 16 percentage point gap in Trump Tower occupancy rates reported to lenders and tax officials.'

(Did the IRS audit not have access to the rates reported to lenders?...)

https://www.thedaily...ublica?ref=home

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.
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Posted 01 December 2019 - 01:37 AM

Pennsylvania legislators have apparently decided it needs birth certificates for any 'fetal remains' including unimplanted eggs by mandating burial services (which require a death certificate, which requires a birth certificate) at the hospital or patient's expense. It's disguised as giving an opportunity for grieving parents to bury their child after a miscarriage, which is a pretty disgusting way to abuse people's grief. I guess being an anti-science asshole isn't limited to Ohio.
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Posted 02 December 2019 - 02:00 AM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.


'The Ohio House has passed legislation that would allow students to give wrong answers and not be penalized if those wrong answers are based on the student’s “sincerely held religious belief.”'

https://www.patheos....BuKzIAUHr_K_Lxw
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Posted 02 December 2019 - 03:34 AM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 02 December 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.


'The Ohio House has passed legislation that would allow students to give wrong answers and not be penalized if those wrong answers are based on the student’s “sincerely held religious belief.”'

https://www.patheos....BuKzIAUHr_K_Lxw


That’s fine but they had better be able to reference the appropriate bible chapters and biblical scholars then. Otherwise ignorant is just ignorant.
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Posted 03 December 2019 - 04:51 PM

View PostCause, on 02 December 2019 - 03:34 AM, said:

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 02 December 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.


'The Ohio House has passed legislation that would allow students to give wrong answers and not be penalized if those wrong answers are based on the student’s “sincerely held religious belief.”'

https://www.patheos....BuKzIAUHr_K_Lxw


That’s fine but they had better be able to reference the appropriate bible chapters and biblical scholars then. Otherwise ignorant is just ignorant.


Nope, it isn't fine.

Saying 'evolution isn't real' because Genesis says 'god created the heaven and the earth and everything on it' doesn't make that a correct answer.
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Posted 03 December 2019 - 06:59 PM

I sincerely believe I can stone my wife to death cause the Bible said so doesn't hold up in court??? What is this madness??
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Posted 03 December 2019 - 07:05 PM

View PostMacros, on 03 December 2019 - 06:59 PM, said:

I sincerely believe I can stone my wife to death cause the Bible said so doesn't hold up in court??? What is this madness??


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Posted 03 December 2019 - 08:14 PM

I'd like to see a Muslim attempt to do this with their convictions. Bet it doesn't stand up then.
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Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:56 AM

View PostObdigore, on 03 December 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 02 December 2019 - 03:34 AM, said:

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 02 December 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.


'The Ohio House has passed legislation that would allow students to give wrong answers and not be penalized if those wrong answers are based on the student’s “sincerely held religious belief.”'

https://www.patheos....BuKzIAUHr_K_Lxw


That’s fine but they had better be able to reference the appropriate bible chapters and biblical scholars then. Otherwise ignorant is just ignorant.


Nope, it isn't fine.

Saying 'evolution isn't real' because Genesis says 'god created the heaven and the earth and everything on it' doesn't make that a correct answer.


I was joking. It’s just my observation that most people who are so devoted to there sincerely held religious beliefs that they don’t think they should even have to give the right answers in a science test are also often the same people who have never read their bibles.

Some people seem to think the Bible is 1 page long and it’s says evolution is a lie, the world is 6000 years old and god hates gay people.
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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:28 PM

View PostCause, on 04 December 2019 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 03 December 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 02 December 2019 - 03:34 AM, said:

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 02 December 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 29 November 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 29 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

So is Ohio the insanity state, then? They apparently have just passed an anti-abortion bill which basically means either a death sentence to some pregnant women or jail sentences for medical doctors, because it states that ectopic pregnancies must be reimplanted into the uterus or the doctor would be facing an abortion murder charge. But reimplanting ectopic pregnancies is currently medically impossible to do, and if the embryo isn't removed it could potentially kill the mother. This is legislation going beyond mad. These people should be locked up themselves.


It's been the insanity state for a while from what I have seen.


'The Ohio House has passed legislation that would allow students to give wrong answers and not be penalized if those wrong answers are based on the student’s “sincerely held religious belief.”'

https://www.patheos....BuKzIAUHr_K_Lxw


That’s fine but they had better be able to reference the appropriate bible chapters and biblical scholars then. Otherwise ignorant is just ignorant.


Nope, it isn't fine.

Saying 'evolution isn't real' because Genesis says 'god created the heaven and the earth and everything on it' doesn't make that a correct answer.


I was joking. It’s just my observation that most people who are so devoted to there sincerely held religious beliefs that they don’t think they should even have to give the right answers in a science test are also often the same people who have never read their bibles.

Some people seem to think the Bible is 1 page long and it’s says evolution is a lie, the world is 6000 years old and god hates gay people.


Fair enough, it's hard to read tone in written word sometimes.

I agree with what you aid here. It's shocking to me that American Evangelicals are apparently just white nationals covering themselves in 'christianity' to hide it.
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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:32 PM

In other news, trump has fled the NATO summit because the a video surfaced of a few of the other leaders recounting stupid things that trump did, and then laughing.

President Snowflake is at it again.

https://www.independ...urce=reddit.com
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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:33 PM

Triggered! Someone should write a book about that...
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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:36 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 04 December 2019 - 05:33 PM, said:

Triggered! Someone should write a book about that...


They did! And then the RNC bought up enough copies to get it onto the bestseller list. And then the author fled a press event because he didn't want to answer questions from a friendly crowd who had purchased his book.

Don't worry friend, it's bullshit all the way down.
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