[amphibian]

Nicodimas, on 24 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

I will vote for the person that takes this goverment apart and just stops funding the un-needed programs.

Here is hoping Obama gets another 4 years so he can own the economy the way it is unfolding.

Ok, tell me what's unneeded and why.

Then tell me how you aren't ascribing the current economy to the Republican party, its control of Congress and two terms of George W. Bush, the Clinton years, the H.W. Bush years and so on all the way back to the Reagan years.

[worry]

Obdigore, on 24 July 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

worrywort, on 23 July 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

http://abcnews.go.co...-and-contracts/

Not too far off from the Tea Party's "keep the government's hands off my Medicare" or Craig T. Nelson's infamous "I was on food stamps and welfare and nobody helped me" moments. Except, you know, this is from the Republican candidate for President.

Except the republican base votes on emotion and babies, not things like logic.

Maybe so. But I don't like to count people out prematurely.

[worry]

amphibian, on 24 July 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

Nicodimas, on 24 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

I will vote for the person that takes this goverment apart and just stops funding the un-needed programs.

Here is hoping Obama gets another 4 years so he can own the economy the way it is unfolding.

Ok, tell me what's unneeded and why.

Then tell me how you aren't ascribing the current economy to the Republican party, its control of Congress and two terms of George W. Bush, the Clinton years, the H.W. Bush years and so on all the way back to the Reagan years.

http://www.washingto...8J66W_blog.html

[Obdigore]

Oh please. You want to talk Economy?

http://www.bloomberg...-is-a-sham.html

[worry]

No, I want to talk Anglo-Saxon relations:


http://www.telegraph...nd-America.html

[Obdigore]

Yea I saw that too. I cried.

Clearly Obama is too black to love everything England does.

This post has been edited by Obdigore: 25 July 2012 - 05:39 AM

[D'iversify]

Anglo-Saxon relations need to be restored? Does Romney know how unpopular the last Anglo-American first couple/warmongers are in the UK? Obama is very popular in Britain but even an offer from him to cozy up 's going to be taken with a pinch of salt these days, never mind Romney.

This post has been edited by D'iversify: 25 July 2012 - 07:41 AM

[Obdigore]

D, on 25 July 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

Anglo-Saxon relations need to be restored? Does Romney know how unpopular the last Anglo-American first couple/warmongers are in the UK? Obama is very popular in Britain but even an offer from him to cozy up 's going to be taken with a pinch of salt these days, never mind Romney.

But you owe us for WW2!

Seriously though, its just Romney pandering to a section of racists without trying to appear racist.

[Terez]

I believe it's called a dog whistle. In fact, I think we discussed this a couple of pages ago.

[D'iversify]

Obdigore, on 25 July 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

D, on 25 July 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

Anglo-Saxon relations need to be restored? Does Romney know how unpopular the last Anglo-American first couple/warmongers are in the UK? Obama is very popular in Britain but even an offer from him to cozy up 's going to be taken with a pinch of salt these days, never mind Romney.

But you owe us for WW2!

Seriously though, its just Romney pandering to a section of racists without trying to appear racist.

"Yeah, well we saved your ass in World War III!"

Anyway, there is clearly one section fo the British populace with whom Romney is very popular: http://www.guardian....ing-mitt-romney

This post has been edited by D'iversify: 26 July 2012 - 11:12 AM

[POOPOO MCBUMFACE]

Hahaha, one of Romney's aids literally said he gets on with Anglo-Saxons because he too is Anglo-Saxon. Where do you find these people?

[worry]

[Terez]

He's on a roll.

http://politicaltick...ents-as-racist/

[worry]

Also he just praised Israel's healthcare system. Guess what kind they got: http://2012.talkingp...health-care.php

[Terez]

worrywort, on 26 July 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

This Venn diagram makes me unhappy. It suggests that all Romney supporters know what Anglo-Saxons are (not a given), and it suggests that there are a whole lot of dog-whistlers who aren't Romney supporters (which is, in the US at least, probably rather inaccurate). I suppose it's the thought that counts, though...

[Brujah]

As a white male, in the US, please don't lump as all in together. I can't imagine having Mitt Romney as our president. As someone already said, it would or at least COULD be George Bush( either, although son the worst, imo) all over again. He'll have us trying to goto war with Iran, next. I don't believe in these wars. I believe we should only goto war if another country, not a faction of it, comes to our mainland with an army.

Iraq War, whether just or not (I scream UNJUST) wasn't our place. Desert Storm wasn't so bad. We had a larger participation from other countries, and we just showed up, issued demands, showed we could follow through, liberated Kuwait and left.

The second Iraq INVASION was retaliation for 911 and oil. It destabilized the entire region. Our government doesn't speak for its people, it speaks for its own greed. It rouses the people to accomplish its own goals. If Romney is elected, the govt will have many US citizens thinking Iran is Satan come to destroy us all. As if they could. Their biggest play is when they tell us how some terrorist of middle east descent, is gonna sneak across our border as Mexican, and smuggle in to one of out larger cities, a nuclear bomb.

If that DID happen, all hell breaks loose. I dont think any faction, good or bad, would risk their families. The retaliation would be WWIII, and they would nuke the middle east into a sheet of glass, and millions die. Now all of said may be truths, half-truths, or total garbage. What I'd like to summarize is that not all of us US citizens are anything like our govt spokesman. I voted for Obama, but he hasn't really been able to get much done by being blocked by the republicans,and to be honest, he hasn't fought near hard enough in the public eye.

I've usually felt like either candidate were just two sides to the same coin. The rich get richer, everyone else gets poorer. There was a time, my grandfather and uncles would talk about it, when the American common man would lay his life on the line for any other country around the entire world, if they needed help defeating opressive regimes. I've got 3 men in my family who died at D-day in WWII. Now our army is fighting wars they don't believe in - and this from the mouth of returning soldiers from Afganistan, who's heads are still hurting from having been there.

I'll stop my rant. I didn't mean to offend, I'm sorry.

My Life For World Peace.

Love you guys. This forum, and its world variety has been such a great place for me to migrate to, away from my old forums, consisting mostly of US males. I've learned so much and feel blessed by having met some of you.

The others - you know what.

[worry]

Terez, on 31 July 2012 - 02:49 AM, said:

worrywort, on 26 July 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

This Venn diagram makes me unhappy. It suggests that all Romney supporters know what Anglo-Saxons are (not a given), and it suggests that there are a whole lot of dog-whistlers who aren't Romney supporters (which is, in the US at least, probably rather inaccurate). I suppose it's the thought that counts, though...

No on the former (the overlap doesn't encircle ALL Romney supporters, just that where those two categories overlap you're bound to find Romney supporters -- it's a synergy thing). Yes on the latter, and I don't think it's inaccurate. I've heard it from lefties, moderates, conservatives, libertarians, independents, and the apolitical alike. How I mourn the loss of youropenbook.org, a fantastic snapshot.

This post has been edited by worrywort: 31 July 2012 - 03:53 AM

[stone monkey]

I could point out here that not all Brits are Anglo-Saxons (some 13% of us aren't - I'm one of those) but I suspect the Venn Diagram that includes US voters who know that would be even more complicated. Even our UK political commentators were making hay with that one; the only people who use that kind of language over here are the out-and-out racists in the BNP. But it's fairly obvious that Romney wasn't out to make friends over here; and if he thought he was, he's really quite painfully stupid.

Another point is the problem with dog whistles is that the people who blow them tend to think that only their supporters are the people who can hear them. Which really hasn't been so for a very long time. When a dog whistle is blatantly obvious to everyone it ceases to be coded language and basically becomes the whistle-blower deliberately showing sane people that they're a dick; which can't be what they want at all.

[worry]

http://www.businessi...8#ixzz22ynDfxKU

[Morgoth]

Briar King, on 10 August 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Hm I just heard on our local news that our states governor maybe a VP cani for Mitt.

... and the award for least informative post of the year goes too..

Might be you should elaborate some.