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#12821 User is online   The Incredible Aptorian 

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 08:06 PM

I imagine all politicians play golf in the US. It's like how all business people are into bike riding or extreme sport here in Denmark.
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Posted 21 November 2020 - 09:02 PM

The way the "old boy networks" operate is via country clubs centered on golf + dinners and by going to "the right colleges".

So if you want to get bumps up the ladder in the corporate world or the government world, you gotta play golf and it helps to play well enough to be included with the people who play well (the rich ones who can spend lots of time golfing). People usually go out in a foursome and talk deals during the non swinging times.

It's very common in the lawyering world, the business people world, and so on. I don't play golf regularly, but I have played a little and see why people do it beyond simply enjoying the game.

Trump isn't playing alone most times - he's got three players with him that he's schmoozing and they're schmoozing him (more of this than the former). So he's doing stuff while on the course, but it's not actual President work - it's putting $ in his pockets work.
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Posted 21 November 2020 - 09:16 PM

View Postamphibian, on 21 November 2020 - 03:20 PM, said:

The only things preventing actual genocide at this point is the multilevel lack of competence in the presidential administration. McConnell is competent enough and willing enough to fund it all.

That's how scary this shit is - the big reasons why they can't rip more migrant kids from their families and beat the shit out of black and brown people is that they aren't competent enough to do it.

Kyle Rittenhouse is getting paid to do endorsements of stuff like coffee bc he went out and murdered protestors.

There is a real appetite for this among us as an American society. This isn't just one side vs another.


The Rittenhouse thing, and the fact that people donated enough money for him to have a multi-million dollar defence fund and put up a two million dollar bond to walk free brought me to despair. There is no longer any attempt at hiding their true purpose. They want to kill 'colored people' and god damn anyone stopping them.
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Posted 21 November 2020 - 11:32 PM

oh boy, here we go! (This is one of the Plaintiffs in the Georgia case, btw. def big-name MAGA.)

https://twitter.com/...218328225353735

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There it is.

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Posted 22 November 2020 - 02:15 AM

Omg i hope they lose the senate because of this crap. That would be too good
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 02:49 AM

View PostEmperorMagus, on 21 November 2020 - 09:16 PM, said:

View Postamphibian, on 21 November 2020 - 03:20 PM, said:

The only things preventing actual genocide at this point is the multilevel lack of competence in the presidential administration. McConnell is competent enough and willing enough to fund it all.

That's how scary this shit is - the big reasons why they can't rip more migrant kids from their families and beat the shit out of black and brown people is that they aren't competent enough to do it.

Kyle Rittenhouse is getting paid to do endorsements of stuff like coffee bc he went out and murdered protestors.

There is a real appetite for this among us as an American society. This isn't just one side vs another.


The Rittenhouse thing, and the fact that people donated enough money for him to have a multi-million dollar defence fund and put up a two million dollar bond to walk free brought me to despair. There is no longer any attempt at hiding their true purpose. They want to kill 'colored people' and god damn anyone stopping them.

I get the despair, but they have been doing this for years. Remember George Zimmerman? They made that scumbag a hero and crowdfunded his defense. And they loved the fact that he was Latino, which they think means he couldn't possibly be racist against black people! (And Rittenhouse just killed white people who were protesting on behalf of black people.)

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, I知 not talking about Donald Trump. I知 talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 03:00 AM

View PostTerez, on 22 November 2020 - 02:49 AM, said:

View PostEmperorMagus, on 21 November 2020 - 09:16 PM, said:

View Postamphibian, on 21 November 2020 - 03:20 PM, said:

The only things preventing actual genocide at this point is the multilevel lack of competence in the presidential administration. McConnell is competent enough and willing enough to fund it all.

That's how scary this shit is - the big reasons why they can't rip more migrant kids from their families and beat the shit out of black and brown people is that they aren't competent enough to do it.

Kyle Rittenhouse is getting paid to do endorsements of stuff like coffee bc he went out and murdered protestors.

There is a real appetite for this among us as an American society. This isn't just one side vs another.


The Rittenhouse thing, and the fact that people donated enough money for him to have a multi-million dollar defence fund and put up a two million dollar bond to walk free brought me to despair. There is no longer any attempt at hiding their true purpose. They want to kill 'colored people' and god damn anyone stopping them.

I get the despair, but they have been doing this for years. Remember George Zimmerman? They made that scumbag a hero and crowdfunded his defense. And they loved the fact that he was Latino, which they think means he couldn't possibly be racist against black people! (And Rittenhouse just killed white people who were protesting on behalf of black people.)


I guess it's the incompetent but totally serious attempt towards a coup that's making everything worse.
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 03:12 AM

Speaking of the attempted coup, the Trump campaign just got excoriated in PA federal court today and lawtwitter is going nuts about it because the judge called Rudy's arguments a "Frankenstein's monster", among other things. It's a really, really harsh ruling, with prejudice meaning they can't refile. The Trump campaign is hailing this as a win in their strategy to get this quickly before SCOTUS (lol) and they have tried to dismiss the judge as an Obama appointee, but he's a conservative and member of the uberconservative Federalist Society (where Justice Alito recently gave that painful speech that you might recall). He was only appointed by Obama as part of a deal with Republican PA senator Pat Toomey because of an old Senate tradition where home-state senators can blackball any judicial nominee from their own state. In order to get past the "blue slip" blackball for another nominee, Obama had to agree to appoint Toomey's guy, and that's the guy who delivered this ruling today. So after the ruling, Toomey finally came out and declared that Biden is President-Elect.

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, I知 not talking about Donald Trump. I知 talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 03:34 AM

 Terez, on 22 November 2020 - 03:12 AM, said:

Speaking of the attempted coup, the Trump campaign just got excoriated in PA federal court today and lawtwitter is going nuts about it because the judge called Rudy's arguments a "Frankenstein's monster", among other things. It's a really, really harsh ruling, with prejudice meaning they can't refile. The Trump campaign is hailing this as a win in their strategy to get this quickly before SCOTUS (lol) and they have tried to dismiss the judge as an Obama appointee, but he's a conservative and member of the uberconservative Federalist Society (where Justice Alito recently gave that painful speech that you might recall). He was only appointed by Obama as part of a deal with Republican PA senator Pat Toomey because of an old Senate tradition where home-state senators can blackball any judicial nominee from their own state. In order to get past the "blue slip" blackball for another nominee, Obama had to agree to appoint Toomey's guy, and that's the guy who delivered this ruling today. So after the ruling, Toomey finally came out and declared that Biden is President-Elect.


I have seen parts of the judgement. Honestly, it is what I would except reading from a judge in such a ridiculous case and I'm happy that even Republican judges can rule correctly on this issue.

If the upper courts stay within their sphere of authority (meaning they don't go deciding that the trial judge's facts were incorrect), I can't see how any appeal could overturn this decision.
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 02:07 PM

I just hate that were are being forced to treat this literal clownshow as serious business. Everyone knew that Trump was hoping there would be a situation like 2000, really close calls that could be litigated up to a friendly SCOTUS, but this is not close, and there are half a dozen states he's trying to pick off because he can only afford to lose one of them. He has no chance in hell of pulling this off on any kind of legal basis, but we just have to sit here and wait for Rudy Giuliani's corpse to finish farting.

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, I知 not talking about Donald Trump. I知 talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 23 November 2020 - 10:00 PM

So Biden has announced some key position appointments in his administration. For you government wonks who follow closely the functioning aspects of the presidency, what do you think of these recent announcements? I recognize Janet Yellen and John Kerry. I mean any one of the Biden posts is going to hop over the low bar Trump set by his appointments, but just curious to know what you guys think so far.
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Posted 23 November 2020 - 10:10 PM

I'm very much hoping that Biden listens to the wise people and doesn't hire Rahm Emanuel. The guy is toxic and left Chicago with a lot of bad feelings. There's not much he brings to the table as a person who can push a legislative agenda or be anyone other than one of the 3 Emanuel asshole brothers.
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Posted 23 November 2020 - 11:12 PM

Just came out - The transition can formally begin.

https://twitter.com/...011299707408385

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 11:22 PM

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 01:05 AM

Im confused, did GSA authorize it and than trunk Wrote that. Or did trump himself give Permission first.
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 01:47 AM

After, but Trump gonna Trump.
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 04:54 AM

 amphibian, on 23 November 2020 - 10:10 PM, said:

I'm very much hoping that Biden listens to the wise people and doesn't hire Rahm Emanuel. The guy is toxic and left Chicago with a lot of bad feelings. There's not much he brings to the table as a person who can push a legislative agenda or be anyone other than one of the 3 Emanuel asshole brothers.


Amen!!
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 05:00 AM

View PostCause, on 24 November 2020 - 01:05 AM, said:

Im confused, did GSA authorize it and than trunk Wrote that. Or did trump himself give Permission first.

Trump didn't write that. No way he would use the words "initial protocols" lol. She probably said at some point that if Michigan certified its results she would have no legal basis for continuing to withhold her ascertainment so Trump tried his damndest to intimidate the powers that be in Michigan - the Wayne county canvassers, the state canvassers, and the heads of the state legislative bodies are all well-documented cases of that effort - and when it didn't work he just told her to do it.

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

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There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, I知 not talking about Donald Trump. I知 talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 10:28 PM

Any you guys see the introduction of Biden's cabinet picks? After four years of what we just had, I almost forgot what a competently run presidency looks like.

The refutation of how Trump has run things was very apparent and lovely to see. Feeling full of confidence.
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Posted 25 November 2020 - 09:14 PM

Pardoned Flynn. Let痴 see how many more of these he hands out
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