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Lol.

I must have really stood out for the Takeda clan Tapper as the leader recruited me but his General Mental had to kill me.

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Path-Shaper, on 24 January 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

Interesting...

Korlat, on 24 January 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

No Night Action

And

Atrahal, on 24 January 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

ho hum, who do I want dead?

KILL OSSERIC

the only one ot talk smack bout my leader.... he must die.

Mental. I now understand Vengy's near uncontrollable urge to punch you in the face. I don't have a grudge list but if I did I think that you would be on it.

I figured I wasn't very important for my team so I thought about jumping on a few people to get stuff stirred up. I new that it might cost me the game early but I was hoping for it not to.

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Path-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 25 January 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

I'm impossible. I was about to post a mini-SH rant about Osseric and the way he outed my signaling to Atrahal on thread while being on my team. I just now realized that I am not Ashikaga. I had this in mind from the start of the game, possibly since I am working with a japanese collaborator called Ashikaga.

So, after a bout of disappointment, I should say that the night/day cycle couldn't have gone better

Hmm, so Osseric was Ashikaga but not called Ashikaga. GH was Uesugi and called Uesugi, and leader from what people say. I'm Takeda and called Takeda. Am I special?

This made me smile. Actually If it wasn't for you voting Atrahal and quickly removing your vote, I probably wouldn't have spoke out on Tapper when he did it later.

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid, on 25 January 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Oh yeah, forgot about this.

Day 2 - Defend Korlat

Can I make this automatic somehow? I guess not with Ironman rules, huh?

Atrahal, on 25 January 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

now, I can either NK liosan for talking about GL.



or, I can try to figure out who's trying to kill me.

provisional: KILL TULAS SHORN

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Sheltatha Lore, on 25 January 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

... WTF is Ment doing? He's voting Silanah for being a possible leader?

He better KNOW this is not the case, or KNOW that Tulas Shorn is in our team and be desperate, because hunting leaders on thread is the best way to get lynched. I know very well, and so should he, considering what happened in the Rot3K game.

hmmmmmm.

Sheltatha Lore, on 25 January 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

One wounding, that means what, that I have 2 more before I die?

Crap, day 2 and there's already someone nibbling at my balls. I doubt he will stop just because I didn't die. By the way, is someone protecting me, or is there such an action as "wounding" someone?

tick tock tick tock

Merrid, on 25 January 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I am still waiting on some actions and/or confirmations. BTW, confirmations aren't strictly necessary, but they are nice because they serve to speed things up a bit.

In clarification, I made two errors on the final voting. The first error is somehow Silanah's name was deleted from the "not voting" list. On the lynch train, I should not have counted Atrahal's vote.

Here is how it should have looked:

It is Day 1. There has been a lynch.

20 Players still alive: Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

11 Votes to Lynch. 10 to go to night.

1 Vote Tulas Shorn: Atrahal
1 Vote Atrahal: Tulas Shorn
3 Votes Merrid: Eloth, Sorrit, Olar Ethil
9 Votes Eloth: Shetatha Lore, Liosan, Okaros, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Korvalain, Merrid, Omtose, Shadow

Players not voting: Fener, Kessobahn, Korlat,, Silanah Osseric, Tiamatha

This was because I was in a rush to get to work when I did this, so I made a boo boo. So yes, 9 votes, and yes, Eloth was lynched.

So nine votes instead of 11 needed to lynch Eloth. Let's assume Eloth was indeed a leader - so far all clues lead to that conclusion.

Could Eloth have needed 2 less votes to be lynched? Seems unlikely - late in the game that would be horrific.

Could someone have a triple vote? Yes, it's possible, though very rare in mafia. It would have to be only one role - probably the Ashikaga leader. This would mean that the factions are not totally symmetrical but it also makes sense from Ashikaga winning the last game and being in charge of Japan.

Could two people have double votes? Yes, that is very possible. Most likely: the faction leaders. If there is symmetry between factions, this means four or five players (less one, now) have the double vote. That could become very, very powerful later if many of them are still alive, but since every faction has it it is still balanced.

Could one person have +1 and Eloth have had -1? Maybe, but that seems really complicated and prone to imbalance late in the game as there's no way every faction would have those traits.

Could this be related to alliance mechanics and completely beyond my understanding? Yeah, that's probably what it is but that doesn't help me do anything so let's ignore that.


IMO, then, I am looking at either the Ashikaga leader being on the train with a triple vote or two other faction leaders being on it with double votes each. Really, then, the next step is simple. I need to kill the batman everyone on that train (except me!), cutting off the other factions' heads.Given how I can defend Korlat all the time, the other leaders are probably quite action-resistant, too so lynching will be the way to go!

D'rek's picks for enemy faction leaders on the train:

Karatallid
Okaros
Omtose
Liosan
Shetatha Lore
Galayn Lord
Shadow
Korvalain


Karatallid, prepare to DIE!!! (oh god he has nothing to make a case out of...)

[Path-Shaper]

Olar Ethil, on 25 January 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Ok, so, what I'm about to do is either very clever or very stupid.
I'm trying to gently push a Silanah lynch, without drawing ttention to myself. It has already been noted that I didn't vote for Eloth, so I need to be on the next train to allay suspicion. I'm pushing for Silanah because I don't think she is Uesugi, but she has enough suspicion and votes on her that it doesn't look like I'm derailing a train.
So, I want to defend Silanah. It will make her look more important, and thus a better lynch. Hopefully it will out someone who knows she isn't important. And I'm also hoping that it will pull out some other day actions, so I know what I'm defending against

Also, as a side note, I am rubbish at alting people. One of my best friends is part of this group and I have no idea who

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Korvalain, on 25 January 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:

Man, its tough not knowing anyone! On one hand, I have a lot of info I can't share on thread, on the other, With alliances and what not, the chances of recruiting another person is rough, even tougher yet, is promoting someone I don't know I have!!! It's all about getting that first recruit


On a game note.. I like where I am setting up. Me and Takeda are pretty well insulated from NA's, and now that the other alliance has broken down, me and him can recruit from the other 3 teams. Lets just hope that he didn't form a secret alliance, or if he did, that it's with a weakend team and not the Miura.

Lets just hope that Takeda realizes that we are in a great position and should continue the alliance. Lets also hope that the other 3 leaders realize how silly they are not to be in one.

I saw that you threw in the term 'Vassle" in your scene.. lets hope that my recruit of Omtose was the partial success that you mentioned in my role.

Speaking of that you say:

"There are Partial successes, but these will be reported as a ‘failure’ on the first attempt."

does this mean I have to recruit someone twice? Or just that I have to attempt, it will be partial success, but I just won't know about it and thats as far as they can be recruited?

A really advantageous switch by Korvalain. If not changed, this recruit will succeed and put the Fujiwari in a really good position.

Korvalain, on 25 January 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

Cancel last provisional

New Provisional

Recruit Olar Ethil

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 25 January 2012 - 11:51 PM

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So what is the deal with Morgoth and Khell? They know they can ally with each other right? And it's advantagous to do from what I can tell. Who is dropping the ball? Does one need to confirm the allinace or have neither of them requested one with the other?

[Path-Shaper]

Khell is clamoring for it. Morgy is being reluctant for some reason. I've sent him a PM saying he has received an official invitation from the Ashikaga, but he hasn't replied yet.

I wanna know why only 5 of 10 people have submitted their Day actions... Are people reticent about acting, or did Ironman go over their heads? (It cost Mentrahal today).


Edit: wrong clan name

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 January 2012 - 12:37 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Could this be the end of the Takeda leader? Tapper has been targeted a LOT in this game, he may want to review how he plays as a Leader.

Kessobahn, on 26 January 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

NIght 2 Action

Attack GL

I feel Fener has been calling attention to him, then smoothed it over. Trying to play follow the leader is making me nuts. I'd rather lash out at my own targets. Let's see how this goes. If I'm still alive, I may try to signal a bit to Fener tomorrow, see if I can confim some communications. How're my attack targets doing? Feeling good I hope.

Edit: bolded my action

[Path-Shaper]

Barring provisional changes and night-time heals, the killers are 3 for 3 so it could be a bloody night.

[Path-Shaper]

Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

Night 2 Provisional:

Maintain Secret Alliance with Fujiwari. If they decide to break it off, then preference list is:

Takeda
Miura
Uesagi

Other Night Action:

Recruit Sheltatha Lore

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Path-Shaper, on 26 January 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Barring provisional changes and night-time heals, the killers are 3 for 3 so it could be a bloody night.

Now, add in a Fener recruitment of Shelly, who would replace Osseric as their Lieutenant, and this could really destroy the Takeda`s chances and put the Fujiwari and Ashikaga in the driver`s seat.

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 26 January 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

For my next night action (assume I don't get lynched) I would like to kill Merrid.

Poor D'rek. Double dead.

Silanah submitted a Night prov, but nothing for the day. I sent a message because it appears that he doesn't know he can do both...

[Path-Shaper]

Vote count says 8 votes, but because Korvalain and Omtose are on together, the real count is 9. Next vote hammers.

[Path-Shaper]

Actions

Olar Ethil, on 26 January 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

Hm. Interesting that people seem fixated on Silanah and Liosan. Silanah's lynch is looking pretty much assured. I'm still a little suspicious of the low posters, it feels like they are just coasting.

So Tulas Shorn is managing to get some more attention. It looks like Sheltatha at least has decided he is Uesugi. I'm expecting him to be the next night kill target. He, Silanah and Liosan are the ones being pointed at for Uesugi, and with Silanah probably lynched today and Liosan as the next best lynch opportunity, Tulas Shorn must be looking like a good night kill option. Also, he is the only one who I know is on my team So, defend Tulas Shorn.

Korlat, on 26 January 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Gaaaaaaahh

No Night Action

I'm a bit concerned about hitting my team. If I can't start figuring out stuff after tomorrow, I'm just going to start attempting to kill people based off gut feeling and see how that works out for me

Okaros, on 26 January 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

recruit Fener I think

Okaros has refused the Ashikaga alliance.

Okaros, on 26 January 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

I would not want an alliance yet. I feel I learn too much from the 5 faction speculation on thread.
However, Reafirm my secret alliance if possible.

Accept from the other factions in this order of Take changes their treacherous minds.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 January 2012 - 10:29 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Morgy disbelieves in the power of the Samurai!

Okaros, on 26 January 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

I'm not entirely sure that cutting off ones own head is technically possible.

From the wiki

Quote

Yoshimoto was the eldest son of Miura Yoshiatsu and received Arai on the tip of the Miura Peninsula from him after 1496. He committed suicide along with his father when the Hôjô stormed Arai Castle in 1516--in his case, supposedly, by cutting off his own head.

If it had been a Viking, he would have said "hell yeah, that's possible"

[Path-Shaper]

Only waiting on Merrid.

Night resolution is

Olar Ethil becomes Fujiwari
Sheltatha Lore becomes Ashikaga

Karat and Tulas both kill Merrid

Kesso kills Galayn Lord (Perfect revenge for Osseric's death).

Ironic, both Fujiwari and Ashikaga lose their Lieutenants and recruit new ones...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 January 2012 - 11:35 AM

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Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

I wonder why Okaros isn't voting. If Silanah's on my team then i'll be disappointed with her reaction to the lynch yesterday. Just shut up and comment after a few hours with a clear head.

Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

So he was on my fucking team.

Great.



Just great

Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Our faction was the only faction that was a doubt, now it is out there. He didn't need to have a go at people for lynching a nobody (someone not on our faction) maybe his close affiliation to GH was the reason for his outburst but for future reference he needs to not give away anything like that to be easily lynched. I should have went along with whom Okaros voted for/not voted for because right now I am thinking Okaros knows who is on our team. Me, him and one other.

I hammered my own team mate due to the double voting mechanic.

[Gust Hubb]

Path-Shaper, on 26 January 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Only waiting on Merrid.

Night resolution is

Olar Ethil becomes Fujiwari
Sheltatha Lore becomes Ashikaga

Karat and Tulas both kill Merrid

Kesso kills Galayn Lord (Perfect revenge for Osseric's death).

Ironic, both Fujiwari and Ashikaga lose their Lieutenants and recruit new ones...

Hehe Tapper. Welcome leader #2. Dropping like flies aren't we