[Korvalain]

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Oh gee, you're telling the truth....but saying nothing about the fact that you don't actually need to recruit. Nice sidestepping of that glaring issue.

ugh... I am done, you are blatently being dense to make me seem like the bad guy here.

It comes down to this:



Kara sides with me or he sides with you. Whichever side he sides with will win the game. Thats it. done.


I just hope hope he sees that if he chooses to side with you, he will not win with the Ashikage team. He will die a Miura as you will not be around to recruit him. Ashikage might win, but he won't win with them.

If he sides with me, I can say with confidence that he will win this game. i WILL recruit him. and I will be alive to do so.


Thats the gist of it. We just need kara to decide.

[Fener]

Olar Ethil, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

holy reveals abound! so i guess its my turn. this will have to be brief as i dont have much time until later.

i was Uesugi. i have been recruited to another team. Fener, the reason you havent been dying is because two of the four nights i defended you. mostly because i had NO idea who else, apart from my leader was on my team, and my leader has not come under any fire. so fuck you!

not going to vote until i can go back and read the thread properly. back in a few hours...

Haha, how funny No matter, my BP is back now - thanks for the help though!

[Fener]

Which I believe makes Korlat and...Omtose? the other Fujiwari.

[Korvalain]

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

And please stop saying I don't NEED Kara. I need him as much as you. Please, present me a reasonable scenario where My team wins without Him.

You already have four. With my lynch and another death, you have voting majority. You don't need to recruit.

Whats this... i don't even... huh?

WE CAN"T LYNCH YOU WITH OUT HIM!!! thats why we NEED him. Why is this hard to understand.... we can not lynch you unless Kara joins in. hence we NEED him. I am still waiting to hear a scenario where we lynch you without him.

Are you being dumb on purpose?

I meant after today. You lynch me, you kill one of my followers in the night....and that's it. You don't need to recruit Kara to win, you'll already have the numbers.

Me, I NEED to recruit Kara to win.

I never said I NEEDED to recruit him. I said I needed him to win. Also, why wouldn;t I recruit him if he helped lynch you off, it adds another killer to my arsenal. How is that a bad thing? War is about acquiring assets and destroying your enemy... It's like if the Japan took over US, do you think they would take over and destroy all their military gear/equipment/planes/ships... no, they would assimilate them and use them to their advantage. There is no reason I wouldn't recruit Kara. It would only make me stronger and help an ally to a win. You haven't given me a good reason why I would screw him over.

[Fener]

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Oh gee, you're telling the truth....but saying nothing about the fact that you don't actually need to recruit. Nice sidestepping of that glaring issue.

ugh... I am done, you are blatently being dense to make me seem like the bad guy here.

It comes down to this:



Kara sides with me or he sides with you. Whichever side he sides with will win the game. Thats it. done.


I just hope hope he sees that if he chooses to side with you, he will not win with the Ashikage team. He will die a Miura as you will not be around to recruit him. Ashikage might win, but he won't win with them.

If he sides with me, I can say with confidence that he will win this game. i WILL recruit him. and I will be alive to do so.


Thats the gist of it. We just need kara to decide.

I'm the one being dense? You're the one who's purposefully refusing to acede the fact that you don't need to recruit to win.

[Fener]

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

And please stop saying I don't NEED Kara. I need him as much as you. Please, present me a reasonable scenario where My team wins without Him.

You already have four. With my lynch and another death, you have voting majority. You don't need to recruit.

Whats this... i don't even... huh?

WE CAN"T LYNCH YOU WITH OUT HIM!!! thats why we NEED him. Why is this hard to understand.... we can not lynch you unless Kara joins in. hence we NEED him. I am still waiting to hear a scenario where we lynch you without him.

Are you being dumb on purpose?

I meant after today. You lynch me, you kill one of my followers in the night....and that's it. You don't need to recruit Kara to win, you'll already have the numbers.

Me, I NEED to recruit Kara to win.

I never said I NEEDED to recruit him. I said I needed him to win. Also, why wouldn;t I recruit him if he helped lynch you off, it adds another killer to my arsenal. How is that a bad thing? War is about acquiring assets and destroying your enemy... It's like if the Japan took over US, do you think they would take over and destroy all their military gear/equipment/planes/ships... no, they would assimilate them and use them to their advantage. There is no reason I wouldn't recruit Kara. It would only make me stronger and help an ally to a win. You haven't given me a good reason why I would screw him over.

If you actually read my posts properly, you will notice that I said that there is, of course, every chance that you will keep your word.

The difference between us is that the option is open to you to not do so. You don't have to.

Me, I have to. I have no other choice. That's the absolute guaranteee that if Kara sides with me, he will ultimately end up on the winning team.

[Korvalain]

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

holy reveals abound! so i guess its my turn. this will have to be brief as i dont have much time until later.

i was Uesugi. i have been recruited to another team. Fener, the reason you havent been dying is because two of the four nights i defended you. mostly because i had NO idea who else, apart from my leader was on my team, and my leader has not come under any fire. so fuck you!

not going to vote until i can go back and read the thread properly. back in a few hours...

Haha, how funny No matter, my BP is back now - thanks for the help though!

You were saying something about gloating.

Besides, we still can't take your word that you have it. You initially said you used it up, it takes 2 days to recover. Then you come on and magically say that you lied and really you used it night 2. hmmmm thats not fishy.

[Fener]

Olar Ethil, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

holy reveals abound! so i guess its my turn. this will have to be brief as i dont have much time until later.

i was Uesugi. i have been recruited to another team. Fener, the reason you havent been dying is because two of the four nights i defended you. mostly because i had NO idea who else, apart from my leader was on my team, and my leader has not come under any fire. so fuck you!

not going to vote until i can go back and read the thread properly. back in a few hours...

This would also explain why you turned on Tulas when I was sure you were Uesugi

[Korvalain]

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

To add, I gave the wrong info because I thought Karatallid was Fujiwari at the time.

So its ok if you lie... but when I use a rule mechanic to take out a competitor its bad? pssssh. Pot, Kettle, black... etc.

I did my lying on thread for anyone to pick up - you did it behind the scenes like a yellow cowardly coward

I didn't Lie!!!! I made a second alliance to increase my teams chance of victory! I would be pissed if I was on a team and my leader didn't do the same thing to give my team a leg up on the competition.

Nice - hiding behind semantics

Fact is, however much you insist, the reality is you don't NEED Kara. Sure, you might well keep your word, but there's a chance you won't for whatever reason. Me, I HAVE to keep my word, otherwise I don't win.

What's stronger in mafia than someone's word? Necessity.

Of course I NEED Karra... If you lynch me off today, My team loses and you win. How, again do I not need him? Both teams need him.

Yes you lose if you're lynched, BUT if you're not lynched, you don't necessarily need Kara to win. As I said, you might keep your word, but you have the option of choosing anyone unrecruited because of your already greater numbers. I don't have that luxury. I NEED to see you gone, and more than that, I NEED Karatallid.

You're purposely ignoring the fact that Fujiwari have the greatest numbers as it stands. You have options.

And you are forgetting the fact that if I am lynched, you will be dead come morning and Karra will be stuck with no team or chance of winning. He either takes my word that I will recruit him. ( Really, you haven't given me a good reason why I wouldn't.. Why Wouldn't I recruit him?) or he takes your word that you will survive till tomorrow.

Oh please! Just as you accuse me of lying about my protection, who's to say you're not lying about still having your BP!?

Kara- notice, once again, how he picks out parts of the quotes he wants to respond to and ignores the rest.... He still hasn't given a reason why I would not recruit you and make my team stronger. ( it's cause there is no good reason).



I am done for now. The more I talk, the more they try to twist my words to meet their ends. I am out for a bit.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Olar Ethil, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

holy reveals abound! so i guess its my turn. this will have to be brief as i dont have much time until later.

i was Uesugi. i have been recruited to another team. Fener, the reason you havent been dying is because two of the four nights i defended you. mostly because i had NO idea who else, apart from my leader was on my team, and my leader has not come under any fire. so fuck you!

not going to vote until i can go back and read the thread properly. back in a few hours...

Wow, no wonder Fener was unkillable.

Korvalain, didn't you say I was lying because bodyguards only happened during the day?

[Fener]

Korvalain, on 01 February 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 February 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 01 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

holy reveals abound! so i guess its my turn. this will have to be brief as i dont have much time until later.

i was Uesugi. i have been recruited to another team. Fener, the reason you havent been dying is because two of the four nights i defended you. mostly because i had NO idea who else, apart from my leader was on my team, and my leader has not come under any fire. so fuck you!

not going to vote until i can go back and read the thread properly. back in a few hours...

Haha, how funny No matter, my BP is back now - thanks for the help though!

You were saying something about gloating.

Besides, we still can't take your word that you have it. You initially said you used it up, it takes 2 days to recover. Then you come on and magically say that you lied and really you used it night 2. hmmmm thats not fishy.

As I said, I was trying to fish for a reveal from Karatallid as Fujiwari. Obviously, I was barking up the wrong tree at the time

[Sheltatha Lore]

Anyways, I'm off to bed.

It comes down to Karat at the end, and nothing much else to say.

Korvalain needs you for the lynch, but not after, to you have his word for it

Fener needs you for the lynch, and after, so you have the fact that he wants to win too for it.

[Path-Shaper]

Just woke up and will do a vote update in just a bit.

[Karatallid]

i'm about to go to bed. I'd like a time update if possible. Also people should get their votes in now shouldn't they?

[Tiamatha]

yay, vote updates.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 20 hours and 37 minutes are left.

9 Players still alive: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha,

5 Votes to Lynch. 5 to go to Night.

2 Votes Fener : Korvalain, Omtose
2 Votes Korvalain: Fener, Sheltatha Lore

Players not voting: Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Olar Ethil, Tiamatha

[Karatallid]

and also do we still have to watch out for the double vote mechanic!

Is olar with fener and sheltatha?

Leaving korv with who?

[Karatallid]

can generals be recruited?

[Karatallid]

i'll vote in the morning

[Korvalain]

Karatallid, on 01 February 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

and also do we still have to watch out for the double vote mechanic!

I believe Merrid and Liosan or Shadow and Liosan were the 2 double voters. Thats just my personal accounting, but I believe it's accurate. ( I don't have my notes in front of me)