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Eastern Wolves : Chapter 2 of Sengoku Jidai Series Warring States Mafia

#741 User is offline   Tulas Shorn 

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:47 AM

View PostShadow, on 26 January 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Pathshaper killed the thread.

I'm not really confident as of right now. Silanah was on my list, and he turned out to be of a different faction than I originally anticipated. That shook me a bit.

I'll look at the names being thrown around when I have a chance. Will be at some point tomorrow


I did try to tell you that your list wasn't all you thought that it was cracked up to be. :D I await your new list with baited breath.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:52 AM

View PostFener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 January 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.



I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."



so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?


Atrahal, gettin feisty?


a bit. I have a small positng window, and then more stuff to do,and then work.

and in this particular case, English is my third language, so I'm genuinely curious what exactly I wrote wrong.
Other than supposedly outing my supposed leader, Sorrit, if you skim the thread, and pay no attention to commas.


English is my second language, but I still pay attention :D And with or without commas, your comment could be construed as referring to Sorrit, rather than being directed at Sorrit.

Now use your limited time to tell us something worthwhile :apt:


english is my first language and i dont pay attention to shit why because since english is my first language im better then both of yous combine and put together and torn apart because i was born and taught english as my first and by god my only language because it is the only proper language that god and jesus spoke the only reason other people dont start off speaking english is because the were born unlucky in places that god doesn't like


:D

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:54 AM

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Why would GL put himself out there so much trying to get Liosan killed if he was a leader who could be night killed? Think about it, he must have knew he was drawing attention to himself being ballsy the way he was, Fener accused him of being too smart or something along those lines, meaning he was a threat. I think GL was targeted by a NK due to the fact that he was giving so Lio so much heat and one of Lio's general's took out GL, just a theory. Looking at the other death "merrid" it looks as though Eloth's second in command targeted Merrid as well as one of the Muira/Muiri? We can also look at whoever else was putting pressure on Lio following GL's lead. I'm unsure on who i'd go for right now though because I don't know who is on my team. I'm looking for clues just as the rest of us. I would probably go for a TS/Lio lynch based on them being linked to Eloth and accused by GL. However, I would also abstain from a lynch to prove I wasn't the double voter but that would only work if a double voter got on the train or stayed away and it wouldn't prove a thing. That being said for now I am going to

Vote Tulas Shorn

The reason I have picked him is because he has a link to Eloth AND has quieted down a lot since the day one shennanigans.



ok, so your post is about how GL probably got NKd for stirring shit up against Liosan. so, you conclude, Liosan may be a leader.
then, you do a 360, and vote for TS< whom you suspect to be of the Uesugi faction--the same faction that lost its leader.

whereas, Liosan, another potential leader (with a potential double-vote. And no, I don't know that for sure, but i'm presuming leaders get double votes as i've stated elsewhere), who is probably a greater threat, is cheerfully ignored?

huh

vote Liosan


because if that's not deflecting, i don't know what is.


This I completely agree with.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:55 AM

Well, even sides didnt last long

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:59 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 January 2012 - 01:52 AM, said:

View PostFener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 26 January 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.



I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."



so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?


Atrahal, gettin feisty?


a bit. I have a small positng window, and then more stuff to do,and then work.

and in this particular case, English is my third language, so I'm genuinely curious what exactly I wrote wrong.
Other than supposedly outing my supposed leader, Sorrit, if you skim the thread, and pay no attention to commas.


English is my second language, but I still pay attention :D And with or without commas, your comment could be construed as referring to Sorrit, rather than being directed at Sorrit.

Now use your limited time to tell us something worthwhile :apt:


english is my first language and i dont pay attention to shit why because since english is my first language im better then both of yous combine and put together and torn apart because i was born and taught english as my first and by god my only language because it is the only proper language that god and jesus spoke the only reason other people dont start off speaking english is because the were born unlucky in places that god doesn't like


:D


Ummmm. Tulas that was a religiously oriented rant about language... English is my only fluent language but i wish i could speak spanish and greek but cant. Those who are bilingual or more are luckier than us becayse they can speak english and at least one other language.
Plus god, jesus, and all his peeps spoke hebrew as jesus was jewish

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostLiosan, on 27 January 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 January 2012 - 01:52 AM, said:


english is my first language and i dont pay attention to shit why because since english is my first language im better then both of yous combine and put together and torn apart because i was born and taught english as my first and by god my only language because it is the only proper language that god and jesus spoke the only reason other people dont start off speaking english is because the were born unlucky in places that god doesn't like


:D


Ummmm. Tulas that was a religiously oriented rant about language... English is my only fluent language but i wish i could speak spanish and greek but cant. Those who are bilingual or more are luckier than us becayse they can speak english and at least one other language.
Plus god, jesus, and all his peeps spoke hebrew as jesus was jewish


Really, man I am tempted to vote for you for being dim. If you couldn't see what I was doing there then please don't direct any more comments to me for the rest of the day. I almost start to explain that paragraph but I don't think you would understand it even if I was able to draw you a diagram.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:13 AM

I apologize for roleplaying, and yes that is what i was doing

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:34 AM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 26 January 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Something interesting I noticed:

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View PostSorrit, on 26 January 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

Like who? Liosan?

That's the fellow I asked you after. You know, pretty orange avatar, switched votes today, seems a tad bit nervous... I'm sure you;ll recognize him when you see him.

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He tweaked out after the lynch but I highly doubt if he knew that GH was his boss he would have flown off the handle like that afterwords. He thought he was onto something else. I also doubt he would be third on the Sil train if he thought Sil was on his team?

So you don't think he was unusually cavalier in voting for people and switching votes between people? You don't think that is because he has perhaps knowledge of who is on his side, and/or doesn't particularly care as long as he survives, usually the hallmark of a middle to high powered role?
You don't think there's anything to my suspicion (and that of Fener, for example) in thinking he outed having knowledge in response to my theory?


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I also noticed Tulas Shorn protecting you from Liosan, not that you have needed it.

I personally doubt people know I'm on their faction. And yeah, regardless of what game I am in, I am generally capable of defense as long as there is time left in the day to respond.

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I see lots of people trying to hide in the middle of the pack, and I want to call them out but I dont want to hit my own faction. I dont think Atrahal is in my faction so I mentioned him. And I hate not being able to alt anyone. It is no fun.

I'm usually content to let them rest, for precisely the reason you mention. At some point, they'll out themselves.



View PostSorrit, on 26 January 2012 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 25 January 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

Caught up on phone. Tons of classes today, so little time.

Culture hunting is good, but TS seemes too loud to be important. And silanah was supposedly recognised by another player.

vote Silanah


First vote on Silanah today, who is most likely going to be lynched, but this is a very terrible reason for a vote.

You claim Silanah was caught signaling. Where? To Who?

This reads to me as a leader trying to suggest to their followers who to vote for without looking obvious about it.

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codes? in a merc game?
that is just silly.


I dont know my whole faction, be there four or five people in it. You know yours and so don't need any kind of codes/signaling? Interesting.

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well, Merrid is really being put on the spot by Eloth... could be fake-symping, since no one else followed up on the Korean bit.
I'd say it's better to go for the suspected leader. Eloth is certainly not playing the way i'd expect someone important to act.



vote Merrid



as for Silanah, the fact that they are "Redwings" may have something to do with the longevity of that joke.



Or it could be signalling.

So there is signaling now?

And those were his only two posts doing anything about... anything.

I'm guessing Atrahal is a leader trying to coast by in the middle of the numbers while not ruffling the feathers of anyone who isn't quite likely to be lynched.

He also protects Fener

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see, the flaw with that reasoning, is that I don't see there being "scum" per se in this game.
in fact, i'm currently leaning to there being 4 factions of 5.

which would make a fener lynch counterproductive.


Which again leads me to believe he knows who is on his team and who isn't, which leads me to believe he has a power role.




Both Sorrit and Gaylord had the same accusations, Sorrit against Atrahal and Gaylord against Liosan.

Both under the assumption (which I found strange at the time) that leaders knew who their boys are (usually it's the other way around).

And now Gaylord dies and turns out to be a leader.

Sorrit? Anything you want to tell us?


This is some more really good reasoning.

While I don't see Liosan and a leader. He could be I didn't think that Eloth or GL were. But Sorrit. Low posting not really getting any heat. Not giving us anything to go off of. Yeah that would be a smart cold bloody play.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:36 AM

View PostLiosan, on 27 January 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I apologize for roleplaying, and yes that is what i was doing


If you're going to roleplay with TS, you really ought to use more swear words and acid sarcasm :D

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:38 AM

View PostFener, on 27 January 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 27 January 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I apologize for roleplaying, and yes that is what i was doing


If you're going to roleplay with TS, you really ought to use more swear words and acid sarcasm :apt:


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:40 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 January 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 26 January 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Something interesting I noticed:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 26 January 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

View PostSorrit, on 26 January 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

Like who? Liosan?

That's the fellow I asked you after. You know, pretty orange avatar, switched votes today, seems a tad bit nervous... I'm sure you;ll recognize him when you see him.

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He tweaked out after the lynch but I highly doubt if he knew that GH was his boss he would have flown off the handle like that afterwords. He thought he was onto something else. I also doubt he would be third on the Sil train if he thought Sil was on his team?

So you don't think he was unusually cavalier in voting for people and switching votes between people? You don't think that is because he has perhaps knowledge of who is on his side, and/or doesn't particularly care as long as he survives, usually the hallmark of a middle to high powered role?
You don't think there's anything to my suspicion (and that of Fener, for example) in thinking he outed having knowledge in response to my theory?


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I also noticed Tulas Shorn protecting you from Liosan, not that you have needed it.

I personally doubt people know I'm on their faction. And yeah, regardless of what game I am in, I am generally capable of defense as long as there is time left in the day to respond.

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I see lots of people trying to hide in the middle of the pack, and I want to call them out but I dont want to hit my own faction. I dont think Atrahal is in my faction so I mentioned him. And I hate not being able to alt anyone. It is no fun.

I'm usually content to let them rest, for precisely the reason you mention. At some point, they'll out themselves.



View PostSorrit, on 26 January 2012 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 25 January 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

Caught up on phone. Tons of classes today, so little time.

Culture hunting is good, but TS seemes too loud to be important. And silanah was supposedly recognised by another player.

vote Silanah


First vote on Silanah today, who is most likely going to be lynched, but this is a very terrible reason for a vote.

You claim Silanah was caught signaling. Where? To Who?

This reads to me as a leader trying to suggest to their followers who to vote for without looking obvious about it.

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codes? in a merc game?
that is just silly.


I dont know my whole faction, be there four or five people in it. You know yours and so don't need any kind of codes/signaling? Interesting.

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well, Merrid is really being put on the spot by Eloth... could be fake-symping, since no one else followed up on the Korean bit.
I'd say it's better to go for the suspected leader. Eloth is certainly not playing the way i'd expect someone important to act.



vote Merrid



as for Silanah, the fact that they are "Redwings" may have something to do with the longevity of that joke.



Or it could be signalling.

So there is signaling now?

And those were his only two posts doing anything about... anything.

I'm guessing Atrahal is a leader trying to coast by in the middle of the numbers while not ruffling the feathers of anyone who isn't quite likely to be lynched.

He also protects Fener

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see, the flaw with that reasoning, is that I don't see there being "scum" per se in this game.
in fact, i'm currently leaning to there being 4 factions of 5.

which would make a fener lynch counterproductive.


Which again leads me to believe he knows who is on his team and who isn't, which leads me to believe he has a power role.




Both Sorrit and Gaylord had the same accusations, Sorrit against Atrahal and Gaylord against Liosan.

Both under the assumption (which I found strange at the time) that leaders knew who their boys are (usually it's the other way around).

And now Gaylord dies and turns out to be a leader.

Sorrit? Anything you want to tell us?


This is some more really good reasoning.

While I don't see Liosan and a leader. He could be I didn't think that Eloth or GL were. But Sorrit. Low posting not really getting any heat. Not giving us anything to go off of. Yeah that would be a smart cold bloody play.


What I wonder is what Sorrit's motives were for bringing up Atrahal when all the focus was on Silanah, Lio, and to an extent, you TS. I mean, we all applaud looking outside the box, but there's a time and a place, and the time and the place Sorrit chose, whilst it may have been dictated by their time zone, also looked a bit weird, as if there was a secondary intention other than bringing Atrahal to notice.

I have to take another look at the posts between Sorrit and GL.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:46 AM

Yes the timing was strange for Sorrit to suddenly try and build a case against Atrahal and the way in which he went about it. Sorrit had been called out for low posting that dayl, possibly deflecting from that a bit as well.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:57 AM

View PostFener, on 27 January 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:


What I wonder is what Sorrit's motives were for bringing up Atrahal when all the focus was on Silanah, Lio, and to an extent, you TS. I mean, we all applaud looking outside the box, but there's a time and a place, and the time and the place Sorrit chose, whilst it may have been dictated by their time zone, also looked a bit weird, as if there was a secondary intention other than bringing Atrahal to notice.

I have to take another look at the posts between Sorrit and GL.


One thing that I am wondering is that if Sorrit was trying to draw attention away from someone then with Silanah being dead and from the looks of the scene not of the highest importance. Then was he trying to draw attention away from Liosan.

Actually he might have been trying to do that. But then that brings up the question of how would he have known that Atrahal wasn't on his team. Unless he had tried to do something to Antrahal the night before and found out that way. Which could mean several things.

A little conjecture if you will. Based off of this bit from the end of the first night scene.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:


The war that had ignited first with the burning of forts along the contested lands between the Uesugi, Takeda and Miura was also waged in quiet rooms, far from any battlefield. The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals, kept many a spy and messenger in daily rice. There were some, however, who chose to honor their Allies even unto death.


I think that there might be a recruiting mechanism in this game. It could be that Liosan is known to Sorrit and that Sorrit felt pretty confident in accusing Antrahal because he was not able to recruit antrahal the night before.
I am going to have to go back and reread some things. Because right now I feel like I am starting to enter WIFOM zone.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:23 AM

Back, catching up.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:39 AM

Tulas Shorn said:

One thing that I am wondering is that if Sorrit was trying to draw attention away from someone then with Silanah being dead and from the looks of the scene not of the highest importance. Then was he trying to draw attention away from Liosan.

Actually he might have been trying to do that. But then that brings up the question of how would he have known that Atrahal wasn't on his team. Unless he had tried to do something to Antrahal the night before and found out that way. Which could mean several things.

A little conjecture if you will. Based off of this bit from the end of the first night scene.


My motive for bringing up Atrahal? It was my first oppurtunity to go through the thread at length and Atrahal's play was/is bugging me. I'm confused why you all are acting as if we are looking for scum.

With the same level of 'logic' I see a couple of you (Tulas in particular) using, I can deduce the following:

1) GL was correct about the faction setup, and was telling his 'second' that he only knows him, and subtly looking for directions.
2) He refused my suggestions regarding Atrahal, therefore he is protecting Atrahal.
3) Since GL only knows his 'second', then Atrahal is obviously his second.

Terrible logic used to make it look like there are connections is fun.

Now if you want to do something fun, go look at who started speculating on GLs main target, Lio, before he did if you want to find his 'second'.

Or you can lynch Lio. If he ends up being the lynch today or someone can provide a compelling case, I will string him up (but oh no I would say this even if I was on his team! MORE WIFOM!

I'm still curious, Tulas, why you keep bringing up recruiting? Know something the rest of us dont? I'm also curious why you said 'must be sad for team M to not have an alliance.' I don't even know what alliances do. There is no explanation in the setup on what Open Alliances do, just that they exist. Care to enlighten us since you obviously know more about both a recruiting role and alliances than I do?

Edit -> Quote was not what I had meant to quote, fixed it.

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 27 January 2012 - 03:45 AM


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:17 AM

View PostSorrit, on 27 January 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn said:

One thing that I am wondering is that if Sorrit was trying to draw attention away from someone then with Silanah being dead and from the looks of the scene not of the highest importance. Then was he trying to draw attention away from Liosan.

Actually he might have been trying to do that. But then that brings up the question of how would he have known that Atrahal wasn't on his team. Unless he had tried to do something to Antrahal the night before and found out that way. Which could mean several things.

A little conjecture if you will. Based off of this bit from the end of the first night scene.



I'm still curious, Tulas, why you keep bringing up recruiting? Know something the rest of us dont? I'm also curious why you said 'must be sad for team M to not have an alliance.' I don't even know what alliances do. There is no explanation in the setup on what Open Alliances do, just that they exist. Care to enlighten us since you obviously know more about both a recruiting role and alliances than I do?

Edit -> Quote was not what I had meant to quote, fixed it.


Quickly as I am off. This is the first time that I have brought up recruiting. So I am not sure what you are going off on there other then trying to start some kind of strawmaning bullshit. Second if we assume that only the leaders can make alliances as has been suggested by other people. Then M clan is the only clan to have their leader alive and not have been in a alliance. I assume because it is stated that there are such things as alliances in the game that they must be important. I think with the amount of time that you have seemed to put into this game that almost everyone in the game (unless your a leader which is still a possiblity) has a better idea of what is going on even liosan and he is dim. You obviously hardly read the back bits of the thread if you had then you would have realized that there are quite a few people who have been asking you questions and you aren't bothering to answer any of them.

Thus my sad for M was actually sarcasm at the other members of the clan who are stuck with such a shitty leader. Any idea's who that could possibly be SORRIT.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:35 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 26 January 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 25 January 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

The Uesugi Ashikaga alliance has ended.
The Fujiwari Takeda alliance continues.





So what do we make off this? Some alliances can be broken when a leader dies? The other leader decides that it may be better to cut his losses?


View PostLiosan, on 25 January 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Wait. The ashikaga and uesugi both lost someone, and their alliance ended, but the other two are at full strength and the alliance is intact


I guess because Eloth/GH was the leader of the Uesugi that the alliance ended when he got lynched. Other than that maybe his second in command has taken this ability to forge alliance and now has the power to make that decision or not?


I would actually think that only the leader would be able to create and keep up alliances. In feudal Japan vassals (which would be what a second command would be) were not really encouraged to create alliances behind their lords back. That kind of thing would usually lead to the lord inviting the vassal to commit seppuku. I can't see Shin deviating far from that.



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View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Uji sucked his teeth, tutted and poured some more tea. Interpreting that as a sign of interest from the old innkeeper, Tsuyoshi continued. "Yes, times are going to become thin around here. The farmers are turned back to soldiers and I hear they've started fighting up North. Or maybe it was West? Probably both. Some border forts have been burned down and that's sent troops swarming about like mad.
What's more is those bastards the Takeda appear to be moving on the Ashikaga. Just like them to go and disturb the peace. And that's sent the Uesugi and Miura scrambling to press their flank, trying to find an advantage. Or maybe it was the Fujiwari? Bah, it doesn't matter which banner is on the field in the end."
Uji smiled and bowed obsequiously. War had naught to do with his poor old inn.

Usubu Toyokuni rallied his men into a defense cordon and watched them steady against the next charge that was sure to come. He drew his sword, promising that as he died he'd take some of those bastard Takeda with him. He heard the conch blow, and turned to face the renewed teeth of the Takeda assault. "Ashikaaaaaagaaaaa" he roared as the first wave swarmed over his men.

Usubu Toyokuni of the Ashikaga (Osseric/twelve) is dead.

The war that had ignited first with the burning of forts along the contested lands between the Uesugi, Takeda and Miura was also waged in quiet rooms, far from any battlefield. The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals, kept many a spy and messenger in daily rice. There were some, however, who chose to honor their Allies even unto death.


No idea who Toyokuni is, sounds pretty minor.

"The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals" is scary - sounds like a recruiting mechanism.


This I totally agree with. It sounds very much like a recruiting mechanism. I believe someone else brought up secret alliances.



View PostTulas Shorn, on 26 January 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

This was a very interesting exchange from earlier in the day. GL and Kara talking about alliances both open and secret ones. A pretty straight forward conversation to me.

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 25 January 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

I guess this was what Shin means by clues. It was also a kill of a guy from one alliance by a clan in the other.
What is puzzling me: it is called Open Alliance instead of just Alliance... that suggests there may be a different type?




So open allainces announced in thread but there could be hidden alliances told off thread?


I have no proof whatsoever and I don't want to scaremonger, it is just that "Open" is redundant if that is the only type of alliance, isn't it?



View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

Anyhow, I am out for the next 6-7 hours.



View PostKorlat, on 25 January 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 25 January 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

I guess this was what Shin means by clues. It was also a kill of a guy from one alliance by a clan in the other.
What is puzzling me: it is called Open Alliance instead of just Alliance... that suggests there may be a different type?




So open allainces announced in thread but there could be hidden alliances told off thread?


I have no proof whatsoever and I don't want to scaremonger, it is just that "Open" is redundant if that is the only type of alliance, isn't it?


I thought of 'Open' being that meaning alliances could be made at the same time. But also makes sense.



View PostLiosan, on 25 January 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Especially because he subtly suggested their were secret alliances



View PostLiosan, on 25 January 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Them right after he posts he says he wont be back for a while which makes it impossible for anyone to ask for clarofication. Hes playing too well.
Vote galayn lord



Then Liosan comes on it looks like try's to take advantage of GL going off thread for a extended period of time. That smacks of someone trying to start a lynch on someone who isn't around to defend themselves. Not a unheard of tatic in mafia. A little panicked from the previous end of day. Perhaps, looking for a easy target most definitely.



You didn't bring it up first, Merrid did but you replied to it and said you'd had thoughts in that direction. You also talked a little about alliances and GL's thoughts on open alliances.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:37 AM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 27 January 2012 - 04:17 AM, said:



Quickly as I am off. This is the first time that I have brought up recruiting.


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View PostTulas Shorn, on 26 January 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

This I totally agree with. It sounds very much like a recruiting mechanism. I believe someone else brought up secret alliances.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:43 AM

Anyway, I'm off for a bit. Be back before lynch for sure, but hopefully this afternoon too.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:48 AM

K, i'm back. terrified to find Tulas repeating my every word, but nonetheless, I still think Liosan's a good lynch.

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