[Sheltatha Lore]

Osseric, on 24 January 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Shadow, on 24 January 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Hurry up please! I have to leave soon

Sorry Speed reading has never been a strong suit of mine.

I'm more or less caught up and I find that the people being looked at are being looked at because of signaling cases. I find that very funny.

This is a merc game, what do you want to look for?

[Osseric]

Sheltatha Lore, on 24 January 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Osseric, on 24 January 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Shadow, on 24 January 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Hurry up please! I have to leave soon

Sorry Speed reading has never been a strong suit of mine.

I'm more or less caught up and I find that the people being looked at are being looked at because of signaling cases. I find that very funny.

This is a merc game, what do you want to look for?

I didn't say that it was wrong for people to do that I just said that I find it funny. Personal joke with the voices in my head.

[Osseric]

Anyone do a clock up date? Or a vote update? I really need to put Mafia on hold for a good long while and I need to decide who I need to vote for.

[Tulas Shorn]

Tiamatha, on 24 January 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

well, i'm around. on a read through something did stick out at me.

Silanah, on 24 January 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

Red five, signing in

whoa star wars reference from nowhere and everyone knows that red five is LUKE SKYWALKER so I am taking a risk here and possibly outing the leader of a faction. decent odds he isn't mine.

then this

Liosan, on 24 January 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Greetings red five.

are you fucking joking me

this is the last time this is referenced and it makes me suspicious. of what, I couldn't say, but it seems like signaling.

To me this is a much more direct signaling case then the Korean bit. But I still don't understand why people would bother to signal in a merc game. I mean trying to signal who your faction is allied with sure. But to signal your own teammates I just don't get that. Seems stupid to me.

[Korvalain]

Of the 2 people on the block today I think an Eloth vote is more apt. It's possible he was signaling Merrid...but why the initial vote on Merrid? Double signaling? His lack of ability to answer any questions put to him in a straightforward manner don't really sit well with me and theerefor garners my vote

vote Eloth

At best, he's on another faction. At worst he is a loose cannon on my own. An eloth lynch will also give us a possible option for tomorrow (looks at Merrid) if there is a whacky CF or if the issue needs further exploring. (NO I am not setting up a lynch tomorrow... just saying it gives us more options to look at tomorrow.)

ok, thats really all the time I have for now. I will try to comment further as time dictates at work.

[Atrahal]

Osseric, on 24 January 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 24 January 2012 - 12:59 AM, said:

I'm not too suspicious of osseric about it, since it's generally a good thing to stir stuff up on Day 1, and, in any case, it's not somehtign I see a "leader"-type role doing this early on. Don't forget, this is a merc game, so we're no longer looking for the "first person to do something suspicious" player.



esp not considering our leaders have already made alliances.

What? Me? Suspicious? Never!

On an entirely serious side note that last sentence makes me feel that you know entriely too much about the whole alliance mechanic that is part of this game. I know it probably makes sense that the leaders of a clan will be the ones to make alliances but that can't be taken as fact as it seems you are alluding it to be.

well, no, since i'm not a leader, i'm assuming it is our leaders who would be in charge of allinces.
I have no clue how the mechanic actually works, but htis made the most sense to me.

[Atrahal]

well, Merrid is really being put on the spot by Eloth... could be fake-symping, since no one else followed up on the Korean bit.
I'd say it's better to go for the suspected leader. Eloth is certainly not playing the way i'd expect someone important to act.



vote Merrid



as for Silanah, the fact that they are "Redwings" may have something to do with the longevity of that joke.



Or it could be signalling.

[Tulas Shorn]

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

[Kessobahn]

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

I see your points here. Perhaps the decrease in RP is involved with the newer players coming on board. But in mafia, every word can potentially have meaning beyond the obvious, so I don't think your going to get players to ignore possible clues, connections, etc. that could be disguised a RP. I think it's fair to ask when certain styles of posting playing may be RP, just so we don't waste time trying to analyze meaningless posts.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

If we were lynching the RP, it would be you with a couple of votes in the bank.

[Tulas Shorn]

Kessobahn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

I see your points here. Perhaps the decrease in RP is involved with the newer players coming on board. But in mafia, every word can potentially have meaning beyond the obvious, so I don't think your going to get players to ignore possible clues, connections, etc. that could be disguised a RP. I think it's fair to ask when certain styles of posting playing may be RP, just so we don't waste time trying to analyze meaningless posts.

I agree with you. But I also have started to believe that there has begun to be to much emphases on day 1 interactions. Of course the decrease in RP has to do with newer players. But even then they should be encouraged to RP a little bit. I am not trying to get player to ignore possible clues I just want them to try to keep some of that to themselves till after day 1. Which I don't think is to much to ask. After all it is next to impossible to actually build a case until day 2, regardless of what people think. Thus if you see something that might be a clue on day 1 to remember that a. if it is in a M/P game that it might be a finder/guard/healer leaving a defensive clue and b. that in a merc game it doesn't matter to much so sure note the clue but let someone who wishes to RP to RP with out being a dick.

[Kessobahn]

Shelly's right. We''ve gone from mild interest in the endless translations to what I feel is more based on reactions

[Tulas Shorn]

Sheltatha Lore, on 24 January 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

If we were lynching the RP, it would be you with a couple of votes in the bank.

If my grandma had been a boy then I wouldn't have been born. I love if, using it means that you can put a partial thought together.

[Tulas Shorn]

Kessobahn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Shelly's right. We''ve gone from mild interest in the endless translations to what I feel is more based on reactions

Where exactly is Shelly stating that? Not that I am disagreeing but I would like for you to point out that post.

[Atrahal]

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

I see your points here. Perhaps the decrease in RP is involved with the newer players coming on board. But in mafia, every word can potentially have meaning beyond the obvious, so I don't think your going to get players to ignore possible clues, connections, etc. that could be disguised a RP. I think it's fair to ask when certain styles of posting playing may be RP, just so we don't waste time trying to analyze meaningless posts.

I agree with you. But I also have started to believe that there has begun to be to much emphases on day 1 interactions. Of course the decrease in RP has to do with newer players. But even then they should be encouraged to RP a little bit. I am not trying to get player to ignore possible clues I just want them to try to keep some of that to themselves till after day 1. Which I don't think is to much to ask. After all it is next to impossible to actually build a case until day 2, regardless of what people think. Thus if you see something that might be a clue on day 1 to remember that a. if it is in a M/P game that it might be a finder/guard/healer leaving a defensive clue and b. that in a merc game it doesn't matter to much so sure note the clue but let someone who wishes to RP to RP with out being a dick.

there are levels of RP.
The already mentioned Asylum game, which was cnstrued by some to be a faction game, had scum RPing to hide.
I don't have an issue with Eloth's third person voice. However, the meat of merc games is finding interactions. And on day 1, with no night results to go on, people are naturally inclined to look for such interactions in everything, including RP.

[Omtose]

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

While I see your point to a certain extent and the earlier things can be dismissed as RPing, a couple of pages later, when it is no longer occuring and something is repeated (the Korean) that could be looked at as an anomaly in the first place, it is strange and worth noting, maybe not worth voting on though. However, what is more concerning is the general way that Eloth has reacted to a small amount of scrutiny and what it could possibly mean, it is silly to ignore such a thing completely.

I do agree that it probably had less to do with roles though and strange mechanics and more to do with play style.

[Kessobahn]

Sheltatha Lore, on 24 January 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

If we were lynching the RP, it would be you with a couple of votes in the bank.

This is what I was agreeing with, the rest was my thought. Why did this require such clarification? Does Shelly's input mean more to you than mine? I'm sad now

[Tulas Shorn]

I would like to point this out.

Silanah 5
Korlat 4
Sorrit 3


If this continues it will become unacceptable. There are already over 300 posts. Surely people can find enough information on this thread to make more then 5 posts.

[Tulas Shorn]

Atrahal, on 24 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

I see your points here. Perhaps the decrease in RP is involved with the newer players coming on board. But in mafia, every word can potentially have meaning beyond the obvious, so I don't think your going to get players to ignore possible clues, connections, etc. that could be disguised a RP. I think it's fair to ask when certain styles of posting playing may be RP, just so we don't waste time trying to analyze meaningless posts.

I agree with you. But I also have started to believe that there has begun to be to much emphases on day 1 interactions. Of course the decrease in RP has to do with newer players. But even then they should be encouraged to RP a little bit. I am not trying to get player to ignore possible clues I just want them to try to keep some of that to themselves till after day 1. Which I don't think is to much to ask. After all it is next to impossible to actually build a case until day 2, regardless of what people think. Thus if you see something that might be a clue on day 1 to remember that a. if it is in a M/P game that it might be a finder/guard/healer leaving a defensive clue and b. that in a merc game it doesn't matter to much so sure note the clue but let someone who wishes to RP to RP with out being a dick.

there are levels of RP.
The already mentioned Asylum game, which was cnstrued by some to be a faction game, had scum RPing to hide.
I don't have an issue with Eloth's third person voice. However, the meat of merc games is finding interactions. And on day 1, with no night results to go on, people are naturally inclined to look for such interactions in everything, including RP.

In the asylum game which you very well know several players took it upon themselves to break that game. Which scum then used to hide. There are not very many other games where you can say that same thing. So to continue to use Asylum to frown upon Rping is well pretty pathetic.

[Tulas Shorn]

Kessobahn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 24 January 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The whole Eloth - Merrid connection seems to me to be role playing gone awol. But even then not really. I have noticed over the last several months that people just don't know how to react to role playing in a game. The usual reaction is to lynch the player. Which while moving the game forward, kind of ruins a big part of what mafia should be. The paranoia which people seem to view RPing which is only as a way for scum to code or to communicate seems to be way over board. Because lets face it. GH who has been scum for the past 3 games has not bothered to code or to try to signal at all. True those have been M/p games, however the function of coding or signaling should be more powerful in those games in then in a merc game. But perhaps I am missing something.

Now I am not saying nor trying to defend either Eloth - Merrid I am just saying that people have begun to try to treat day 1 like it is in the same paranoia level as d-day when day 1 is not even in the hemisphere.

I apologize if this post seems a little like how to play mafia. But it is starting to get tiring to keep reading people asking if someone has to post like that due to a role or some other bullshit. Yes people there are roles like that but come on. Either they are announced at the beginning of the game (benses) or you are playing in a high TMDI (7+) where the moderator is trying out different ideas. If you are playing in a tradition merc game that is the next in a sequence then it is probably ok to assume that this game is moderately harder then the previous game in the cycle. Thus if this was shin's game 5 you could assume that there would be more unusual roles. But since this is only game 2, and shin said that it would only be a marginally higher tmdi then the first one. Which since this is a faction game I took to be that we would be playing in a faction game rather then a straight up town/scum game. So could we dispense with the thoughts that if someone is posting weird then that they are doing that because of a role and assume that they are doing that for their own amusement. Feel free to ignore them if you find that posting irritating.

If we were lynching the RP, it would be you with a couple of votes in the bank.

This is what I was agreeing with, the rest was my thought. Why did this require such clarification? Does Shelly's input mean more to you than mine? I'm sad now

I actually thought that you were referring to a different post of his. One that I wasn't in this conversation. My bad