[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. Weekend Timer Freeze in effect. About 1 Hour 20 minutes until timer unfreezes.

11 Players still alive: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

6 Votes to Lynch. 6 to go to Night.

2 Votes Tulas Shorn: Shadow, Karatallid
1 Vote Karatallid: Tulas Shorn

Players not voting: Fener, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha



And just in case anyone is interested, I spent the weekend driving through many of the places where all this is taking place. Miura peninsula (Miura), Odawara (Fujiwari) and up into Yamanashi (Takeda).



Scenes for Night have been added.

[Fener]

Karatallid, on 30 January 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

i get into work and the internet's not working so i only got my phone to go off. So not much posting from me today. I don't think there will be any more double votes but we'll see. I think lio was the other double voter. I think you are using your minions to try and vote me off but i don't care. I'll either be night killed or lynched anyway. I don't see how my faction can win. So i.ll reveal who i am and then another faction can use my vote to go along with them that's all i can offer

So? What faction are you supposedly in then?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Hmm, it seems that Sorrit was trying to derail the pitchfork-and-torches-mob from Silanah, not Liosan.

To me, Karatallid basically just revealed as the last Miura, I would be happy to vote him.

[Path-Shaper]

GAME TIMER HAS STARTED FOR DAY 4. 32 hours left.

[Shadow]

Why would you be happy to vote him? Miura is no danger at all. I'm on my phone for another 12 hours probably so i'll not be posting much content (or good responses) until I get home.

[Shadow]

I think Shelly just outed himself as Fuji Ashi..

[Kessobahn]

Back from the weekend



So finger pointing is in full swing

[Sheltatha Lore]

Shadow, on 30 January 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Why would you be happy to vote him? Miura is no danger at all. I'm on my phone for another 12 hours probably so i'll not be posting much content (or good responses) until I get home.

I would be happy to vote him because with his reveal I know he's not on my team.

Doesn't mean I'll push to get him lynched, like you say he's not a threat.

[Fener]

Sheltatha Lore, on 30 January 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shadow, on 30 January 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Why would you be happy to vote him? Miura is no danger at all. I'm on my phone for another 12 hours probably so i'll not be posting much content (or good responses) until I get home.

I would be happy to vote him because with his reveal I know he's not on my team.

Doesn't mean I'll push to get him lynched, like you say he's not a threat.

We do of course all realise that Karatallid hasn't actually revealed jack yet? You're all going about revealing for him

My suspicion arises from the fact that he didn't do so immediately after he said he would - it makes me think that he's actually planning something else.

[Shadow]

Maybe that's true, but voting off someone who isnt in the alliance gives them a 5v4. They can just vote night, and tear people apart. They seem to be controlling the nks for the most part.

Either way, a nonalliance lynch is 5v4, which gives them enough to just vote off every unknown, and then turn on eachother.

[Sheltatha Lore]

I think Shadow puts too much stock in the Alliances.

I have no clue how they work, but all I know is that after night 1, the Open Alliances information was telling us that it was 10 vs 8, and I didn't see anyone win/lose right after that.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Fener, on 30 January 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 30 January 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shadow, on 30 January 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Why would you be happy to vote him? Miura is no danger at all. I'm on my phone for another 12 hours probably so i'll not be posting much content (or good responses) until I get home.

I would be happy to vote him because with his reveal I know he's not on my team.

Doesn't mean I'll push to get him lynched, like you say he's not a threat.

We do of course all realise that Karatallid hasn't actually revealed jack yet? You're all going about revealing for him

My suspicion arises from the fact that he didn't do so immediately after he said he would - it makes me think that he's actually planning something else.

Well, please, "I don't see how my team can win", "I will reveal and offer my vote to whoever wants it"..?

There's only one team that is down to 1, and it's the Miura. Of course I'm not saying he's telling the truth, I'm just assuming he's revealing as such.

[Sheltatha Lore]

By the way, for the record I agree to vote Tulas Shorn. It's just that with the timer just starting, I don't want to put him halfway through the lynch when the say just basically started, without hearing from the others.

I'm not sure where to go after him, so I want vote ammo

[Fener]

Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Why would GL put himself out there so much trying to get Liosan killed if he was a leader who could be night killed? Think about it, he must have knew he was drawing attention to himself being ballsy the way he was, Fener accused him of being too smart or something along those lines, meaning he was a threat. I think GL was targeted by a NK due to the fact that he was giving so Lio so much heat and one of Lio's general's took out GL, just a theory. Looking at the other death "merrid" it looks as though Eloth's second in command targeted Merrid as well as one of the Muira/Muiri? We can also look at whoever else was putting pressure on Lio following GL's lead. I'm unsure on who i'd go for right now though because I don't know who is on my team. I'm looking for clues just as the rest of us. I would probably go for a TS/Lio lynch based on them being linked to Eloth and accused by GL. However, I would also abstain from a lynch to prove I wasn't the double voter but that would only work if a double voter got on the train or stayed away and it wouldn't prove a thing. That being said for now I am going to

Vote Tulas Shorn

The reason I have picked him is because he has a link to Eloth AND has quieted down a lot since the day one shennanigans.

Supposedly Miura Karatallid doesn't even know how to spell Miura. Could be pretending not to know, but really, what would be the point? How likely is it that you would forget your faction's name?

Karatallid also pushed suspicion of Silanah and voted for them. Again, ok, may not have known they were on the same faction if Kara is Miura.

Karatallid also had a notable interest in alliances, engaging with GL in talk about open and behind-the-scenes alliances, and asking what people thought of the alliances. I'm a believer in those who bring up certain abilities probably having those abilities So I suspect Kara might be a leader. And yes, that does mean they might be the Miura leader as it's not fully certain (according to Shadow's post) whether the Miura leader is dead or not.

I'm not saying that Karatallid is not Miura - I'm just saying let's not blinker ourselves.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Well, let's see then

vote Karatallid

until at least he clarifies what his emo post was about.

[Korvalain]

wow, bloody night last night. things are starting to get interesting.

[Omtose]

A lot happened that night, seems quite an acceleration of NK's from one a night to three.
The way Karatallid is talking it makes it sound like he is Miura, unless he is specifically implying this so he can escape lynch since many will see him as not worth lynching, i'm not sure, he has generally been pretty brazen about these kind of things so far 'I'n not the double voter' but I suppose it could be an act, or he could just be new.

I'm still thinking that TS is roles in some way as the attention is once again seeming to slide away from him, maybe not a leader but possibly some kind of general, he hasn't really denied having a position of power but then I guess there is little point in doing so since we'd chose to either to believe him on not regardless.

[Shadow]

He could also be implying that he is Takeda. They're not in a favorable position with only 2 left, and only retainers at that.

And maybe I am being paranoid about the megalliance, but think about it for a moment. What's the point of alliances? Do leaders gain something from it? Alliances could well create a victory condition. If an alliance achieves voting parity, they win?

History doesn't show that a single faction stands alone very often. It would be an interesting game indeed if the Ashikaga maintained their control of the territory again, with the Fujiwari granted power and land for their assistance in the struggle.

[Shadow]

There being 5 factions supports this theory. An uneven number of factions eliminates the possibility of the game ending too early because one alliance took out too many of the other.

[Korvalain]

i have inventory at work here starting in 10 min. going to be gone til lunch then gone again for another 4-5 hrs. I won't be posting much today.