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Eastern Wolves : Chapter 2 of Sengoku Jidai Series Warring States Mafia

#841 User is offline   Shadow 

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:15 PM

Information dump incoming. The next 2 posts will contain info (some of it my own speculation) and votecounts/scenes.

For the sake of this post, I am working with the assumption that each faction has 1 leader, 1 general (second in command) and 2 "retainers" which are probably different throughout the factions, but will most likely be low ranking.

Fujiwari
UNKNOWN LEADER - ALIVE
Lida Gen (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE
Iwakiri Yoshitora (Merrid/D'rek) - retainer. DEAD

Takeda
Takeda Nobutara (Atrahal/Mentalist) - Leader. OUT OF GAME/DEAD
Takeda Nobutsuna (Galayn Lord/Tapper) - General. OUT OF GAME/DEAD
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE

Ashikaga

Ashikaga Masamoto (UNKNOWN) - LEADER. ALIVE
Ashikaga Yoshiaki (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
Usubu Toyokuni (Osseric, Twelve) - retainer. DEAD
Kagemasa Takuro (Liosan/Azathmaster) - retainer. DEAD

Uesugi
Uesugi Fusayoshi (Eloth, Gust Hubb) - Leader. OUT OF GAME/DEAD
Nagao Tamekage (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
RETAINER - ALIVE
RETAINER - ALIVE

Miura
(1)Miura Tokitaka (Okaros/Morgoth) - Leader/General/retainer. OUT OF GAME/DEAD
Miura Yoshiatsu (Unknown) - Leader/General. ALIVE
(2)Miura Yoshimoto (Silanah, Theblindsapper) - Retainer/General. DEAD
(3)Miura Yoshitora (Sorrit/obdigore) - Retainer. DEAD


(*)Note on the Miura. I'm not quite sure how to rank them.

Miura Tokitaka(1) adopted Miura Yoshiatsu (originally of the Uesugi clan). When Tokitaka (1) birthed a natural son, he attempted to force Yoshiatsu into the priesthood. Yoshiatsu rebelled, killing Tokitaka (1) along with his natual son in 1496. So he shouldn't be alive, technically, in this game. I would assume this character is a rename or some artistic license taken by shin. Either way, the scenes will help. Yoshiatsu's son Yoshimoto (3) committed suicide along with his father in the Hojo storming of Arai castle in 1516. I would assume that is why he is dead and not removed from game, seeing as during the time frame of this game if the Hojo had won, Yoshimoto (3) and Yoshiatsu would have died. I can't figure out who Miura Yoshitora(3) is. Could anyone help me there?

So in theory, Miura Yoshiatsu should be the missing role for the Miura.

Overall notes: I had trouble finding information on The Uesugi and the Fujiwari. So I can't predict their characters. Fujiwari is in the best condition, with both of thei power roles and 1 retainer being alive AND they're allied with the Ashikaga who also have both power roles alive. The Uesugi has a general and 2 retainers, so they're in pretty good shape. The Takeda only have 2 retainers, they seem pretty fucked, along with the Miura who only have (most like) a general or a leader left.

Any comments or theories? Voting trains and scenes being put up next post for my and your convenience.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 29 January 2012 - 04:03 AM


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

It is Day 1. There has been a lynch.

20 Players still alive: Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

11 Votes to Lynch. 10 to go to night.

1 Vote Atrahal: Tulas Shorn
3 Votes Merrid: Eloth, Sorrit, Olar Ethil
10 Votes Eloth: Shetatha Lore, Liosan, Okaros, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Korvalain, Merrid, Omtose, Shadow, Atrahal

Players not voting: Fener, Kessobahn, Korlat, Osseric, Tiamatha

Uesugi Fusayoshi stared down at the message he held in his hands. The seals were correct. The messenger was correct. The language was correct. It was an official summons to the Imperial Court, for an audience with his revered self, the Emperor. His eyes bulged and his mind raced. There was no way to refuse this summons. He must delay! The way events were moving he knew he had to act now, and if he must remove himself to Kyoto, the potential advantages could pass him by.

He bowed his acquiescence to the messenger. "May I ask what has caused the Son of Heaven to call upon me?"

The messenger bowed his head in mock deference. "His majesty is currently entertaining a royal delegation from Korea, and word of your famous 'bow of Hachiman, god of war' has deemed worthy of interest. They wish to see it."

"Please allow me to delay this!" He thought. Aloud Fusayoshi replied, "It is one of the greatest treasures of the Uesugi. If it were at all possible, I would like to send the bow ahead to be inspected, and I will arrive later to pay my respects."

"That will not be possible," the imperial messenger replied, "the honorable Uesugi has been asked for by name."

Unable to conceal his desperation from his face, Fusayoshi acquiesced. After the messenger had left, he immediately sent runners to his most trusted commanders. The campaign would just have to continue without him, and he could do nothing more than hope for the best.

Uesugi Fusayoshi, (Eloth, Gust Hubb) has been lynched. Although his character is not dead, he is no longer a part of the Chapter 2 scenario.




View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I am still waiting on some actions and/or confirmations. BTW, confirmations aren't strictly necessary, but they are nice because they serve to speed things up a bit.

In clarification, I made two errors on the final voting. The first error is somehow Silanah's name was deleted from the "not voting" list. On the lynch train, I should not have counted Atrahal's vote.

Here is how it should have looked:

It is Day 1. There has been a lynch.

20 Players still alive: Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

11 Votes to Lynch. 10 to go to night.

1 Vote Tulas Shorn: Atrahal
1 Vote Atrahal: Tulas Shorn
3 Votes Merrid: Eloth, Sorrit, Olar Ethil
9 Votes Eloth: Shetatha Lore, Liosan, Okaros, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Korvalain, Merrid, Omtose, Shadow

Players not voting: Fener, Kessobahn, Korlat,, Silanah Osseric, Tiamatha

This was because I was in a rush to get to work when I did this, so I made a boo boo. So yes, 9 votes, and yes, Eloth was lynched.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

Uji sucked his teeth, tutted and poured some more tea. Interpreting that as a sign of interest from the old innkeeper, Tsuyoshi continued. "Yes, times are going to become thin around here. The farmers are turned back to soldiers and I hear they've started fighting up North. Or maybe it was West? Probably both. Some border forts have been burned down and that's sent troops swarming about like mad.
What's more is those bastards the Takeda appear to be moving on the Ashikaga. Just like them to go and disturb the peace. And that's sent the Uesugi and Miura scrambling to press their flank, trying to find an advantage. Or maybe it was the Fujiwari? Bah, it doesn't matter which banner is on the field in the end."
Uji smiled and bowed obsequiously. War had naught to do with his poor old inn.

Usubu Toyokuni rallied his men into a defense cordon and watched them steady against the next charge that was sure to come. He drew his sword, promising that as he died he'd take some of those bastard Takeda with him. He heard the conch blow, and turned to face the renewed teeth of the Takeda assault. "Ashikaaaaaagaaaaa" he roared as the first wave swarmed over his men.

Usubu Toyokuni of the Ashikaga (Osseric/twelve) is dead.

The war that had ignited first with the burning of forts along the contested lands between the Uesugi, Takeda and Miura was also waged in quiet rooms, far from any battlefield. The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals, kept many a spy and messenger in daily rice. There were some, however, who chose to honor their Allies even unto death.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 January 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

It is Day 2. A lynch has occurred.

18 Players still alive: Atrahal, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

10 Votes to Lynch. 9 to go to night.

9 Votes Silanah: Atrahal, Korvalain, Liosan, Kessobahn, Omtose, Tulas Shorn, Olar Ethil, Sheltatha Lore, Karatallid
2 Votes Liosan: Galayn Lord, Fener

Players not voting: Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha

Yes, the vote number is correct. Yes, a lynch has occurred.


It could not be said that Miura Yoshimoto had not fought bravely. He stood tall on the battlefield and fought as manfully and as skillfully as any of his peers. It was just his outspokenness that people didn't like. He had a tendency to criticize others for no apparent reason, and for that he was oft resented. So when he took a blow to the head in a skirmish with the Ashikaga, no one thought to question his even harsher than usual words over a rumor that the Uesugi Lord had been called off to Kyoto. Often angry after a draft of sake or two, his arrogance finally tipped his companions against him. They had finally had enough, and officially complained to their superiors in the Miura command. For insubordination and lack of discipline he was ordered to return to his home in disgrace. Rather than accept such an embarrassing punishment, he drew his sword and with a mighty cry he took off his own head.

Miura Yoshimoto (Silanah/Theblindsapper) is dead.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 January 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

The wedge of Fujiwari soldiers headed up the valley towards where it widened out into a V shaped plain. Being late to join the formation, Iwakiri Yoshitora pushed his men at a jog in order to make up time. It was there, at a run that his life expired. Although he reacted instinctively to the arrow that pierced his throat, he was already dead from the one that had passed through his heart. As such, he never saw the completion of the skirmish that easily wiped out his outnumbered contingent of men. Nor would he know, in this lifetime, which arrow in his body had flown from the Uesugi, who had swept down from their places on the Western ridge, and which arrow had come from the Miura, who had come round the hillside to the East. Having been given orders to engage with only the Fujiwari, both the Miura and Uesugi soldiers carefully withdrew.

Iwakiri Yoshitora of the Fujiwari (Merrid/D'rek) is dead.

The Takeda, flush with the success of their incursion into Ashikaga territory pushed further, overrunning fortifications and disrupting the Ashikaga courier system. It was after they had put themselves past Mt. Hakone where they met the first major Ashikaga army in opposition, commanded by Ashikaga Yoshiaki. Both sides fought fiercely, believing they could drive the other army before them. In a bold move, Yoshiaki led a brave charge of mounted warriors personally. Takeda spearmen melted under the onslaught of the Ashikaga mounted samurai, and it was later said that it was Yoshiaki himself who struck a near fatal blow to the Takeda leader once he had reached the Takeda command pavilion. The Takeda recovered however, and pushed the Ashikaga back. They withdrew from the field and returned North across the pass. Rumors went that Takeda Nobutsuna was still alive, but could expire at any time. There was much celebration in the camp of the Shogun loyalists that night, and grim satisfaction for many nights to come.

Takeda Nobutsuna (Galayn Lord, Tapper) has been gravely wounded. Although his character is not dead, he is no longer a part of the Chapter 2 scenario.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

It is Day 3. There has been a lynch.

15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

8 Votes to Lynch. 8 to go to night.

4 Votes Tulas Shorn: Karatallid, Liosan, Shadow, Olar Ethil
8 Votes Liosan: Atrahal, Tulas Shorn, Sheltatha Lore, Fener, Omtose, Korvalain, Sorrit, Kessobahn

Players not voting: Korlat, Okaros, Tiamatha

Kagemasa Takuro of the Ashikaga (Liosan/Azathmaster) has been lynched.

Scene to come later.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 January 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Miura Yoshitora pushed his way forward. This was the third counterattack by the Fujiwari, and they were pressing hard. The tall banner attached to the back of his breastplate whipped in the warm wind of early evening. There! There was the banner of Iida Gen, no more than 3 spear lengths away! If I can kill the General, I can present the head to my lord and firmly grasp my own fame in my hands. I will earn the right to wear the two swords. Yoshitora pushed forward, striking a bodyguard a blow to the forehead with the butt of his spear, dropping the stunned man like a sack of rice. It was the the soldier next to him, the bodyguard’s comrade, who split Yoshitora’s skull with his blade. Thus ended his brief window to glory.

Miura Yoshitora (Sorrit/Obdigore) is dead.

Ashikaga Yoshiaki appeared before the kamakura kubo in full battle dress. In his arms he carried a rough sack, the bottom of which was soaked red. Masamoto motioned for the bundle to be unwrapped. Once done so, he peered closely at the head. “That’s not Tokitaka.” He sneered.
Yoshiaki replied, “No, sire. This is the head of his lead bodyguard. A dread blow was struck at Tokitaka as well, but his remaining troops managed to push us back before we could claim the head. We believe he is dead.”
“We shall see.” Masamoto replied. Go display the head with proper respect, and retake the field. The Miura have been crippled, and the Takeda have largely withdrawn. The Uesugi have disappeared and are rudderless in any event. It seems now we must decide what to do about those upstart Fujiwari. To think they were our greatest supporters against the Hojo. It seems they did so merely to maneuver for their own positioning against us, their rightful rulers.”

Miura Tokitaka (Okaros/Morgoth) has been gravely wounded. Although he is not dead, he is no longer part of the Chapter 2 scenario.

It really came as a surprise to no one when the Takeda’s army was defeated again. The Takeda’s ragged retreat after their defeat at Mishima left them ripe for an attack. The strike by Nagao Tamekage was timed perfectly, while the Takeda troops were found despondently strung out in one of the valleys North of Mt. Hakone, he cut them off and destroyed the already battered army. Nearly a quarter were killed or captured, before the Takeda reached a position where they were able to dig in with their backs to the slopes. With reinforcements coming from the North to relieve the retreat, Tamekage felt his position in that valley was untenable and withdrew. It was clear, however, that the Uesugi had successfully gained control of a fair swath of Takeda territory, and the Takeda General had taken a brutal slash across the shoulder and neck, and seemed likely to die.

Takeda Nobutara (Atrahal/Mentalist) has been gravely wounded. Although he is not dead, he is no longer part of the Chapter 2 scenario.

It is Day 4. Weekend Timer Freeze in effect.

11 Players still alive: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

6 Votes to Lynch. 6 to go to Night.

No one has voted.

Players not voting: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn


This seems to be the only open alliance in effect, correct me if I'm wrong:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 January 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

The Fujiwari and the Ashikaga have formed an Alliance.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 29 January 2012 - 04:03 AM


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:20 PM

6 votes to lynch. The Fujiwari/Ashikaga love fest has 5 players, some of which must know eachother (probably not between factions though).

The other 3 factions, Uesugi, Takeda, and Miura combined only have 6 players.

Powerhouse alliance.. jesus.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:55 PM

ok, so i finally managed my re-read. looks like mostly stuff is covered pretty well when it is brought up. however, i noticed this, and cant believe no one else picked up on it:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:


To me this is a much more direct signaling case then the Korean bit. But I still don't understand why people would bother to signal in a merc game. I mean trying to signal who your faction is allied with sure. But to signal your own teammates I just don't get that. Seems stupid to me.


this is from the first day. why is TS suggesting that anyone would signal their allies but not their team members. why would ANYONE signal people they have a potentially temporary alliance with, for starters. but the only reason i can think of for why you would signal your allies and not your team mates is because you already know your team mates. which leads me to believe that TS knows his team mates. and TS was pretty set on defending the actions of Eloth and Merrid. to the point where he made several long posts about rp-ing, and insisted on all of them that he wasnt defending either of them. i missed this at the time as i wasnt reading them all at once, but it really stood out to me in the re read. on top of that, long discussions on rp and mechanics, and a fixation on the number of posts that have made by each poster it look like he is posting much more content than he actually is. and since he is the top poster, keeping his focus on low posters is somewhat suspect. it feels to me (and i may be wrong about this) that the higher posters are being targeted, which makes it surprising that TS is still alive.

apart from this i have not much to say. i dont have much of a read on who is left. plenty of suspicions that were dashed by the suspicious ones getting killed! but that is rather academic now.

also, nice summaries, Shadow :)

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

I was going to say a similar thing about Tulas.

I find it very suspect that such a controversial figure has not been NKed yet. In fact, look at who HAS been NKed.

Night 1, Osseric. He wasn't very controversial, if I remember correctly.
Night 2, Merrid and Galayn Lord. They both had major arguments and controversial view points.
Night 3, Sorrit, Okaros, Atrahal. I don't remember if Okaros was contoversial, but Atrahal and Sorrit certainly had their share of attention.

It seems likely that Tulas would have been killed by now, doesn't it? This makes me think either he is the one doing much of the killing (a lot of leaders/generals are dead), or he has some kind of protection, which would be a leader or general thing most likely.

Either way, Tulas has been on the chopping block since day 1. Reminds me of Ment in D'reks last game. He almost got lynched day 1, then survived until the end and almost won the game and he was an Emperor. (one out of 3).

On top of all this, TS has had quite a few people deflecting from him and defending him. Look at how difficult he has been to lynch.

I think if we do lynch Mr. Shorn. and he turns up Fujiwari, we could find more of his faction pretty easily.

Vote Tulas Shorn

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:40 AM

It is Day 4. Weekend Timer Freeze in effect.

11 Players still alive: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

6 Votes to Lynch. 6 to go to Night.

1 Vote Tulas Shorn: Shadow

Players not voting: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn




Scenes for Night have been added.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 04:05 AM

I went ahead and added the new information into my 2 posts. Nothing major changed, and I didn't remove any information, so I didn't feel the need to make an entirely new post. Especially since no one is posting.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:29 AM

yeah, looks like everyone is taking the weekend off :)

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:58 PM

In lieu of Shadow's comments, I'm going to embark on a full re-read, might have some comments later.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:33 PM

I'm back.

I've done a full re-read, and one focussed on on everyone remaining.

You know what the first thing to jump out at me was?

Galayn Lord was accused of signalling to Atrahal, and then they did indeed turn out to be both in the same faction - Takeda - and Atrahal was GL's leader. So we SHOULD pay attention to signalling cases!!!!!!! :)

I now believe I have some idea on who is in which faction - for some I'm much firmer than for others.

I am very happy to vote for Tulas, because I am certain that he is not in my faction.

I am also very happy to vote for Korlat, because they are the one player on whom I have absolutely no read whatsoever, as they have posted nothing of note. Nothing at all. No opinion about anything. For that, I would be happy to lynch them no matter what their CF turns out to be, even if it's from my faction, because I hate complete unknowns.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:00 AM

In addition, by process of elimination, I believe that Tulas Shorn and Tiamatha are on the same faction.

I say by process of elimination because, like Korlat, there's very little to go on from Tiamatha's posts as well.


Edit: Sentence re-structure.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:13 AM

View PostFener, on 29 January 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

In lieu of Shadow's comments, I'm going to embark on a full re-read, might have some comments later.


"In lieu of", Fener? Surely you mean, "In light of"?

Fener. Bored.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:16 AM

View PostFener, on 29 January 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

I'm back.

I've done a full re-read, and one focussed on on everyone remaining.

You know what the first thing to jump out at me was?

Galayn Lord was accused of signalling to Atrahal, and then they did indeed turn out to be both in the same faction - Takeda - and Atrahal was GL's leader. So we SHOULD pay attention to signalling cases!!!!!!! :)

I now believe I have some idea on who is in which faction - for some I'm much firmer than for others.

I am very happy to vote for Tulas, because I am certain that he is not in my faction.

I am also very happy to vote for Korlat, because they are the one player on whom I have absolutely no read whatsoever, as they have posted nothing of note. Nothing at all. No opinion about anything. For that, I would be happy to lynch them no matter what their CF turns out to be, even if it's from my faction, because I hate complete unknowns.


I am sad to hear you say that Fener. Because I had you down as being in my faction.

I agree with the Korlat bit and would add Tiam to that same unknown.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:18 AM

View PostFener, on 30 January 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

In addition, by process of elimination, I believe that Tulas Shorn and Tiamatha are on the same faction.

I say by process of elimination because, like Korlat, there's very little to go on from Tiamatha's posts as well.


Edit: Sentence re-structure.


I don't agree with you there. I dont' know who Tiam or Korlat are with but I don't think they are with me.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:31 AM

View PostShadow, on 28 January 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

I was going to say a similar thing about Tulas.

I find it very suspect that such a controversial figure has not been NKed yet. In fact, look at who HAS been NKed.

Night 1, Osseric. He wasn't very controversial, if I remember correctly.
Night 2, Merrid and Galayn Lord. They both had major arguments and controversial view points.
Night 3, Sorrit, Okaros, Atrahal. I don't remember if Okaros was contoversial, but Atrahal and Sorrit certainly had their share of attention.

It seems likely that Tulas would have been killed by now, doesn't it? This makes me think either he is the one doing much of the killing (a lot of leaders/generals are dead), or he has some kind of protection, which would be a leader or general thing most likely.

Either way, Tulas has been on the chopping block since day 1. Reminds me of Ment in D'reks last game. He almost got lynched day 1, then survived until the end and almost won the game and he was an Emperor. (one out of 3).

On top of all this, TS has had quite a few people deflecting from him and defending him. Look at how difficult he has been to lynch.

I think if we do lynch Mr. Shorn. and he turns up Fujiwari, we could find more of his faction pretty easily.

Vote Tulas Shorn


Now I am suppose to be a F. I believe that earlier you had me down as U. Just plan on having me be in which ever clan you feel is the one that people will want to vote for. Believe me no one is more surprised then me that I have lived for as long as I have. I have been expecting to be killed every night. The only thing that I can assume (and from the night kills that have been happening) is that the killers think that I am not a power role. Therefore they would rather kill off leaders and Generals, which is what has been happening. You and Olar keep saying people are defending me. But I don't really see it. I know that I have been defending myself. From the look of the posts I think that really I am the only one who has been doing so. As for how difficult I have been to lynch. Well I suppose that since you have been trying to get me lynched since day 2 of course that could be a comment on your shit cases. I mean you can't decide if I have a power role or if I am in the U's or F's. Or if people are defending me or if I am defending people.

You should run for office, it doesn't matter how you paint me as long as you get the result you want, to be reelected. :)

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:12 AM

Now lets see if we can find a remaining double voter. Forgive me for having these lynches out of sequence but it is easier to pick out who can double vote and who can't by using the 3rd lynch as the basis (no double voter on the train).

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

It is Day 3. There has been a lynch.

15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

8 Votes to Lynch. 8 to go to night.

4 Votes Tulas Shorn: Karatallid, Liosan, Shadow, Olar Ethil
8 Votes Liosan: Atrahal, Tulas Shorn, Sheltatha Lore, Fener, Omtose, Korvalain, Sorrit, Kessobahn

Players not voting: Korlat, Okaros, Tiamatha

Kagemasa Takuro of the Ashikaga (Liosan/Azathmaster) has been lynched.

Scene to come later.


Now we know that Okaros is a leader, if a leader has two votes then we know that Atrahal didn't have 2 votes. Now using this lynch lets look that the past lynches.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I am still waiting on some actions and/or confirmations. BTW, confirmations aren't strictly necessary, but they are nice because they serve to speed things up a bit.

In clarification, I made two errors on the final voting. The first error is somehow Silanah's name was deleted from the "not voting" list. On the lynch train, I should not have counted Atrahal's vote.

Here is how it should have looked:

It is Day 1. There has been a lynch.

20 Players still alive: Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

11 Votes to Lynch. 10 to go to night.

1 Vote Tulas Shorn: Atrahal
1 Vote Atrahal: Tulas Shorn
3 Votes Merrid: Eloth, Sorrit, Olar Ethil
9 Votes Eloth: Shetatha Lore, Liosan, Okaros, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Korvalain, Merrid, Omtose, Shadow

Players not voting: Fener, Kessobahn, Korlat,, Silanah Osseric, Tiamatha

This was because I was in a rush to get to work when I did this, so I made a boo boo. So yes, 9 votes, and yes, Eloth was lynched.


Of the two people on this the first train the most likely to have a double vote were GL and Okaros and perhaps Kara. Every one one else we can either eliminate due to being dead and not have a power role or being on the basis train.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 January 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

It is Day 2. A lynch has occurred.

18 Players still alive: Atrahal, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

10 Votes to Lynch. 9 to go to night.

9 Votes Silanah: Atrahal, Korvalain, Liosan, Kessobahn, Omtose, Tulas Shorn, Olar Ethil, Sheltatha Lore, Karatallid
2 Votes Liosan: Galayn Lord, Fener

Players not voting: Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha

Yes, the vote number is correct. Yes, a lynch has occurred.



Now we get down to the second train. Which we know had a double voter on it. Now by basis of elimination. Myself, liosan, Kesso, omtose, shelly, Korv, atrahal can not be a double voter. So we are left with either Kara or Olar. With Kara being the best bet as there were 2 double voters on the first train.

Now as I am trying to lynch a leader at this point I expect for all of his followers to come after me. I am fine with this as it will give both my team and the other teams the ability to see who the followers are. As I am not a member of the grand alliance, and the only two leaders who are left are members of that alliance I have no problem (nor should anyone not in that alliance) of voting out one of the two leaders and breaking up that alliance.

So with that in mind


Vote Kara


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:29 AM

i get into work and the internet's not working so i only got my phone to go off. So not much posting from me today. I don't think there will be any more double votes but we'll see. I think lio was the other double voter. I think you are using your minions to try and vote me off but i don't care. I'll either be night killed or lynched anyway. I don't see how my faction can win. So i.ll reveal who i am and then another faction can use my vote to go along with them that's all i can offer

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

I know I haven't been around much RL issues. I'll be around more, prefer not to be lynched by my own team though.

Aside from myself and Tiam, Omtose is another who's been rather quiet.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:17 AM

vote tulas shorn

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:22 AM

vote tulas shorn

He's not in my faction

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