[Tiamatha]

I don't think it looks like there will be any sway away from me...

Should we just end this so we can go to bed?

[Karatallid]

Tiamatha, on 11 January 2012 - 04:37 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 January 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 11 January 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 January 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 11 January 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 January 2012 - 03:29 AM, said:

Wow, quite the shift. I must say Tiam's lack of posting coupled with the lack of self-defense doesn't look good for her. I will not hold us back, but I do have a few comments in just a sec.

Vote Tiam

Lack of self-defense? Really? Have you noticed how I haven't been online while this entire train has stacked up on me? What am I supposed to defend myself by emitting psychic waves that travel across the world and make you feel sorry for me?

Why are you attacking me? I'm reading up after an aforementioned long day, and I'm contributing.

I was attacking your stupid point for being stupid. You can't just shrug off a completely false explanation for your vote as "I was reading up". Unless there's a very short time on the clock, you should read up *before* you vote, and you certainly should ensure that your reason for voting actually makes sense. And if you did vote before finishing reading up, you should realize your reasoning is bad and make some sort of statement noting that after, which you did not.

I did read up, thought the case had as much merit as any other case thus far, and thus placed a vote before dong a deeper read. When I said why are you attacking me, I meant, why are you attacking me and not also one of the other 5 people on your train, such as Eloth who presented a case on you in the first place. You're sputtering a lot, but not saying much.

You need to read the thread better - I did attack Eloth.

Olar Ethil, on 11 January 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 January 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

I would like to believe that those who jumped onto the Tiamathia vote early on were just townies relieved at having such a straightforward lynch true to mafia hatred of low posters. However, I am also interested in how some people (like OE) have Tiam at the top of their list with no mention of Silanah. Probably just carelessness, but I would bet money that there will be scum behind this vote.

sorry by '"OE" here did you mean me? not sure who else you could have meant...but i didn't make any lists, the imaginary lists didn't include TIam, and he wasn't at the imaginary top of them. so...go ahead and explain now. plz.

More like I need to get to bed. Wrong about your lack of attack on eloth, sorry.

And I mixed up OE with GL (quoted below) Sorry.

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As of right now I'm between Tiamatha and Karatillid for who I'm most likely to vote for, but I can swing many ways.

Osseric not for his case but because I think we saw someone deflecting away from him (Sorrit, I believe, will have to look).

Sorrit for the possible deflection, but riding along with the Okaros vote would make this blatant sympage, so meh.

Tulas and Olar haven't really provided me much to go on. Need to do a re-read.

[Galayn Lord]

I have Tiam on a list? Could be me?

[Karatallid]

Can I go to be now, plz!

[Karatallid]

97 bottles of beer on the wall (and pink rainbows with ponies and Stormy)....

[Galayn Lord]

I explained later on too, the difference between some one legitimately low-posting, and someone whose posts contain very little but pad-posts numbers.

[Karatallid]

night.

[Osseric]

Night Kara.

[Kessobahn]

remove vote



vote Tiam



a lynch is better than a no lynch although an Osseric lynch would be even better.



and i'm around till timeout, in case more people show up.

[Galayn Lord]

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

remove vote



vote Tiam



a lynch is better than a no lynch although an Osseric lynch would be even better.



and i'm around till timeout, in case more people show up.

I'm curious, do you actually think Osseric is scum?

[Kessobahn]

Galayn Lord, on 11 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

remove vote



vote Tiam



a lynch is better than a no lynch although an Osseric lynch would be even better.



and i'm around till timeout, in case more people show up.

I'm curious, do you actually think Osseric is scum?

I htink his reasoning is scummy.

I think his arguments do more harm than good to town.

given the random chances of a Day 1 lynch, his case is by far the strongest I see.

the only argument that's been marshalled to counter that is the ever-so-popular "scum wouldn't stick out like htis on Day 1". while it makes sense at first glance, at its core, it's a wifom argument.

as such, Osseric is the best out of the selection I see before me.

[Tiamatha]

So does that make me L-2 or L-1?

[Olar Ethil]

i've got a case for osseric in progress and I don't plan to change my vote. I'll try to hurry.

[Galayn Lord]

WIFOM defense for a WIFOM brought on action.

Balances out, you see?

[Osseric]

Your reasoning for considering me scummy is subjective, just like my opinions are. It really doesn't matter, simply a clash of wills that's happened a few times anyway.

[Tiamatha]

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 11 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

remove vote



vote Tiam



a lynch is better than a no lynch although an Osseric lynch would be even better.



and i'm around till timeout, in case more people show up.

I'm curious, do you actually think Osseric is scum?

I htink his reasoning is scummy.

I think his arguments do more harm than good to town.

given the random chances of a Day 1 lynch, his case is by far the strongest I see.

the only argument that's been marshalled to counter that is the ever-so-popular "scum wouldn't stick out like htis on Day 1". while it makes sense at first glance, at its core, it's a wifom argument.

as such, Osseric is the best out of the selection I see before me.

You talk about wifom like it is some unstoppable force. Like every possible case is sticks and stones and wifom is a nuke. But it isn't. There are levels to it. Yes, Osseric sticking his neck out is wifom, but he's done it so bloody much that it is, IMO, stronger than a reasonable day 1 wifom argument can defeat. That's my opinion, anyways.

Also, Atrahal is scum.

[Kessobahn]

Galayn Lord, on 11 January 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

WIFOM defense for a WIFOM brought on action.

Balances out, you see?

no, it doesnt.
he makes a wifom case (his words, not mine)

he gets called out on his case being wifom.

he responds with more wifom. (as his defence)



it doesn't balance out. In my eyes, it just compounds.

[Galayn Lord]

Oh, I was just being pithy.

[Galayn Lord]

Olar Ethil, on 11 January 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

i've got a case for osseric in progress and I don't plan to change my vote. I'll try to hurry.

You've got about an hour and a half.

[Kessobahn]

Tiamatha, on 11 January 2012 - 04:57 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 11 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

remove vote



vote Tiam



a lynch is better than a no lynch although an Osseric lynch would be even better.



and i'm around till timeout, in case more people show up.

I'm curious, do you actually think Osseric is scum?

I htink his reasoning is scummy.

I think his arguments do more harm than good to town.

given the random chances of a Day 1 lynch, his case is by far the strongest I see.

the only argument that's been marshalled to counter that is the ever-so-popular "scum wouldn't stick out like htis on Day 1". while it makes sense at first glance, at its core, it's a wifom argument.

as such, Osseric is the best out of the selection I see before me.

You talk about wifom like it is some unstoppable force. Like every possible case is sticks and stones and wifom is a nuke. But it isn't. There are levels to it. Yes, Osseric sticking his neck out is wifom, but he's done it so bloody much that it is, IMO, stronger than a reasonable day 1 wifom argument can defeat. That's my opinion, anyways.

Also, Atrahal is scum.

I talk about WIFOM as somehting that should never be used by a town player. in any circumstances.

because it only ever benefits scum.

As such, I see anyone using is as hurting town, regardless of their allegiance.